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Post by rrh on Feb 14, 2017 19:03:45 GMT -5
Im still really baffled at Beth Phoenix, I do lover her. But Molly, Ivory, Victoria? All alive and well, all of whom have been previous Hall of Fame guests in recent years. The only thing they don't have is a relationship with a former top star. I'd put Beth above Ivory, Victoria and Molly on my list. But then again that's maybe just me and my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 2:19:42 GMT -5
If Beth does really get in I kind of think she should supplant Koko B. Ware as the go-to, "Really, this person?" The man equivalent of that would be like inducting, I dunno, Barrett, someone I love and with some definite great moments to their name but not an all time great and not someone who's been gone for any meaningful amount of time.
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Feb 15, 2017 3:52:26 GMT -5
If Beth does really get in I kind of think she should supplant Koko B. Ware as the go-to, "Really, this person?" The man equivalent of that would be like inducting, I dunno, Barrett, someone I love and with some definite great moments to their name but not an all time great and not someone who's been gone for any meaningful amount of time. Nah, I don't think she supplants Koko at all. Sure, she was not in the E a long time, but 3x Women's champ, 1x Diva's champ, and was a female entrant in the Rumble. She was there for 6 years which is longer than some other HOF'ers. And while it means relatively nothing, she did win a Slammy for Diva of the Year. She was THE #1 diva in terms of in ring for a good portion of her career at least in the way she was presented. That counts for something, even if the division was largely trash when she was there. I'd argue that if Beth was still working, she'd be really close to a 10x champ by now. She doesn't supplant Koko as the low bar. She has plenty of gold and was important to her division when she was there. The one "eh" I have is the fact that she's the 2nd female to enter the Rumble and would be going in before Chyna, but Chyna's not in because of Chyna. Im still really baffled at Beth Phoenix, I do lover her. But Molly, Ivory, Victoria? All alive and well, all of whom have been previous Hall of Fame guests in recent years. The only thing they don't have is a relationship with a former top star. See above. She has the pedigree and more accolades than plenty of other HOF'ers. Ivory is deserving. Victoria as well. Molly I would argue is borderline but Id not be opposed. Does when they go in even matter? This is an arbitrary HOF for the most part. I'd argue the two most important women in WWE's history are not even in (Elizabeth and Chyna, obviously both have reasons like Macho did) yet, and I find it hard to criticize Beth going in before Ivory, Molly, or Victoria. I'd argue the only of those names deserving of the accolade before Beth would be Ivory, and it's not that big of a separation other than Ivory did character better. Now, if we were talking about Candice Michelle, that would be a whole other story. Candice Michelle is completely undeserving and I'd argue McCool would be less deserving than Beth, along with someone like Layla or Christy Hemme. I'd also argue for Beth over someone like Torrie Wilson or Stacy Keibler (these two I expect to go in at some point), just b/c Beth actually accomplished things in the ring. But, Beth is deserving. The fact of the matter is there's not many women from the 2005-2013 range that will be going in.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Feb 16, 2017 13:43:31 GMT -5
Come on Dan Spivey to induct Teddy. Only if he comes out as Waylon Mercy and we get to hear his theme music
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 17, 2017 19:16:01 GMT -5
Too bad he's too gimmicky for the HOF, because I'd love for Undertaker to induct Teddy.
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Feb 18, 2017 5:33:41 GMT -5
Question out of curiosity
In the event that she does get inducted, would Beth Phoenix be the youngest living member of the HOF?
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Post by Mid-Carder on Feb 18, 2017 5:37:36 GMT -5
Question out of curiosity In the event that she does get inducted, would Beth Phoenix be the youngest living member of the HOF? Yes, she's younger by one year than Trish was when she was inducted.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 18, 2017 5:39:08 GMT -5
Question out of curiosity In the event that she does get inducted, would Beth Phoenix be the youngest living member of the HOF? I'm certain that's the case. I believe the current record holder is Trish Stratus, at 41. Beth is 36.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 18, 2017 5:50:45 GMT -5
Im still really baffled at Beth Phoenix, I do lover her. But Molly, Ivory, Victoria? All alive and well, all of whom have been previous Hall of Fame guests in recent years. The only thing they don't have is a relationship with a former top star. I'd put Beth above Ivory, Victoria and Molly on my list. But then again that's maybe just me and my opinion. I'd put her above Victoria and edging out Ivory, but Molly I think is as deserving as Beth, maybe a little moreso. Still, Beth's induction makes sense to me, she was a very central figure of the women's division for the years she was there, as well as the very over pairing with Santino. It just feels kinda early.
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 18, 2017 16:46:14 GMT -5
Question out of curiosity In the event that she does get inducted, would Beth Phoenix be the youngest living member of the HOF? I'm certain that's the case. I believe the current record holder is Trish Stratus, at 41. Beth is 36. Trish was 41?! Damn sure didn't look it.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Feb 18, 2017 16:48:56 GMT -5
I'm certain that's the case. I believe the current record holder is Trish Stratus, at 41. Beth is 36. Trish was 41?! Damn sure didn't look it. Trish is 41 now. She was 37 when she was inducted.
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 19, 2017 22:01:51 GMT -5
Of the women named, I'd give a nod to Ivory as she was part of GLOW before WWF/E, so she was a recognizable figure for some time. Molly maybe as restitiution for the things they had her do (I am reading 2002 recaps of Raws from the time, man was the stuff she was saddled with intolerable). But no, Ivory would get my vote.
Teddy needs to be inducted by New Day, because TAG TEAMS.
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Post by wildojinx on Feb 19, 2017 22:31:28 GMT -5
Considering all he did for his career when he was Smackdown GM, there's only one person who would be perfect to induct Teddy. Of course, im talking about,,The Undertaker!
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Post by thetower52 on Feb 20, 2017 13:11:53 GMT -5
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Feb 20, 2017 13:11:58 GMT -5
BANG!
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Post by StuntGranny® on Feb 20, 2017 13:13:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 13:22:30 GMT -5
DDP is very, very deserving.
Also, wow, this year's Hall of Fame class is killer so far.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Feb 20, 2017 13:47:08 GMT -5
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 20, 2017 13:54:24 GMT -5
I'm confused, I thought DDP was already announced.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 20, 2017 13:54:47 GMT -5
self high fives all around so goung by the usual quota so far we got headliner (Angle) fringe main eventer/popular upper mid-carder (DDP) Non- Performer (Teddy Long) Tag-Team (Rock and Roll Express) Whats left posthumous inductee (Assuming Rude) Female (Assuming Beth) Territory-Era Star ? Celebrity?
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