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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 27, 2017 3:03:41 GMT -5
Something to bear in mind regarding the preview for ep 122 is the fact that Goku’s fight with Jitendra was previewed in the title sequence without showing UI. It might be possible that Vegeta is using the offensive version in the actual episode but is shown in Blue in the previews. It is also possible he unlocked Blue 2 (as in Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2). Then again, they made it obvious in the last few arcs that Vegeta’s base form is now stronger than Hoku’s and Goku can only keep up using Kaioken and Ultra Instinct, so maybe that is all it is this early in the fight.
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Post by chrom on Dec 27, 2017 23:03:05 GMT -5
Info on upcoming episodes in January {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Vegeta is wounded by Jiren but not eliminated and tag teams with Goku
Dyspo takes on Frieza
Gohan is challenged by and faces Toppo
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 20:00:22 GMT -5
So, after next Saturday, they'll show the remaining Pot-Al-Fu episodes, and then I'll be taking a 6 month break from the dub because f*** Zamasu.
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Post by Jiren on Dec 30, 2017 20:21:26 GMT -5
So, after next Saturday, they'll show the remaining Pot-Al-Fu episodes, and then I'll be taking a 6 month break from the dub because f*** Zamasu. Zamasu arc given Kai treatment would be great. Not bad from a character/Story standpoint but it's just Too damn long, Maybe trim about 6 episodes worth of pointless fluff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 22:15:34 GMT -5
So, after next Saturday, they'll show the remaining Pot-Al-Fu episodes, and then I'll be taking a 6 month break from the dub because f*** Zamasu. Zamasu arc given Kai treatment would be great. Not bad from a character/Story standpoint but it's just Too damn long, Maybe trim about 6 episodes worth of pointless fluff. If it was up to me, I'd just have two episodes about Trunks coming back, an initial Black battle, then reveal Zamasu, & skip to the final battle, which would be about 10 episodes. The Tournament of Power going forever makes sense since we are introduced to almost 100 new characters, and that needs a lot of attention. This just reveals three; Zamasu in his eleventy billion forms, Gowasu, & Future Mai. Again, Zamasu isn't a compelling villain. He's just "I hate mortals because they suck & must die!". He doesn't deserve 20 episodes & 18 manga chapters, even though he IS Super's first original villain. Anyway, the next Mission for Super Heroes is launching on the 11th with all Tournament characters, and so far, Jiren, Toppo, Bergamo, Anilaza, Katopesla, & Ganos have been confirmed.
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Post by chrom on Dec 30, 2017 23:26:33 GMT -5
Anyone else hearing Magetta curse in the dub?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 0:08:05 GMT -5
Anyone else hearing Magetta curse in the dub? Not really. The computer voice system they used would just go "Chigga clang clang" for the most part... Except when Magetta was feeling sorry for himself.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Dec 31, 2017 4:07:19 GMT -5
Zamasu arc given Kai treatment would be great. Not bad from a character/Story standpoint but it's just Too damn long, Maybe trim about 6 episodes worth of pointless fluff. If it was up to me, I'd just have two episodes about Trunks coming back, an initial Black battle, then reveal Zamasu, & skip to the final battle, which would be about 10 episodes. The Tournament of Power going forever makes sense since we are introduced to almost 100 new characters, and that needs a lot of attention. This just reveals three; Zamasu in his eleventy billion forms, Gowasu, & Future Mai. Again, Zamasu isn't a compelling villain. He's just "I hate mortals because they suck & must die!". He doesn't deserve 20 episodes & 18 manga chapters, even though he IS Super's first original villain. Anyway, the next Mission for Super Heroes is launching on the 11th with all Tournament characters, and so far, Jiren, Toppo, Bergamo, Anilaza, Katopesla, & Ganos have been confirmed. I actually really liked the arc and the mystery behind who goku black was. I wish it would've ended with trunks slicing zamasu in half instead of zamasu becoming omnipotent and Zeno destroying the future.
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Post by mrtuesday on Dec 31, 2017 7:29:20 GMT -5
My issues with the Zamasu arc isn't really with Zamasu himself, but with the various retcons.
The Potara earrings now having a time limit. I get that it was so Goku and Vegeta could split, but why not just have them use the Fusion dance and use Gogeta for that?
Goku damn near botched the whole plan by forgetting the seal for the Mafuba. Goku was never this dumb. But it did set up him dooming various realities by having Zen-Oh have the Tournament of Power.
Giving Future Trunks the win was the right call. But that was ruined by Zamasu being everywhere. I would have ended the arc with Trunks getting the win and killing Black/Zamasu once and for all. But they just didn't do that.
Future Zen-Oh destroying Zamasu.. yeah sure whatever. They set that up with the button earlier. Zen-Oh destroying the universe because of Zamasu was dumb and made the whole arc pointless. They could have had Bulma bring the Super Dragon Radar to Future Trunks's time and find the Super Dragon Balls and wish Earth back to a point before Black showed up. Even a point before the Androids showed up. It would have been a happy ending for Trunks.
The arc has a lot of potential. It just wasted most of it.
One more thing. Lani and Grant from Team Four Star and them wishing Goku Black was Future Goten. They never explain why or how. How can Future Goten exist when he was never born in that timeline? Explain your fanfic, guys.
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Post by chrom on Dec 31, 2017 7:39:26 GMT -5
My issues with the Zamasu arc isn't really with Zamasu himself, but with the various retcons. The Potara earrings now having a time limit. I get that it was so Goku and Vegeta could split, but why not just have them use the Fusion dance and use Gogeta for that? Goku damn near botched the whole plan by forgetting the seal for the Mafuba. Goku was never this dumb. But it did set up him dooming various realities by having Zen-Oh have the Tournament of Power. Giving Future Trunks the win was the right call. But that was ruined by Zamasu being everywhere. I would have ended the arc with Trunks getting the win and killing Black/Zamasu once and for all. But they just didn't do that. Future Zen-Oh destroying Zamasu.. yeah sure whatever. They set that up with the button earlier. Zen-Oh destroying the universe because of Zamasu was dumb and made the whole arc pointless. They could have had Bulma bring the Super Dragon Radar to Future Trunks's time and find the Super Dragon Balls and wish Earth back to a point before Black showed up. Even a point before the Androids showed up. It would have been a happy ending for Trunks. The arc has a lot of potential. It just wasted most of it. One more thing. Lani and Grant from Team Four Star and them wishing Goku Black was Future Goten. They never explain why or how. How can Future Goten exist when he was never born in that timeline? Explain your fanfic, guys. Zamasu destroyed the Super Dragon Balls after he wished to be immortal in that timeline.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Dec 31, 2017 16:25:21 GMT -5
Zamasu and his arc are solid ideas, that just had really hit or miss execution during the course of it. Some stuff is done perfectly, other stuff...it feels like it's not even the same person writing it as those big hits. I actually don't mind Zamasu as a character either, he is very late 90's/2000's JRPG villain which really isn't something Dragon Ball has had before in terms of personality. And, it makes sense as far as an evil Kai goes that's how he'd be, not understanding the good in mortal creatures and thinking only the divine should exist. Goku Black was a solid idea, and explained in a way not a lot of people entirely called. Unfortunately it feels like he suffers a bit from people getting so stoked for their fan theories about him that the eventual pay off was never going to satisfy them unless it was their pet theory.
Blue hair continuity issues aside, I thought Trunks and Vegeta were both helped by the arc. Even in the face of Zamasu lampshading Vegeta's role in Super early in the arc. And, I think as others have said they'd have been better off just letting Trunks get the W than the ending they went with. Unless fan theories are correct and it's going somewhere. If not, it seemed out of place.
I genuinely feel though Super has progressively gotten better with every arc. Should it have started at the depths it did? Probably not. Should it have maybe abridged BotG and RF rather than turn them into the arcs they were? Probably. Though small additions like Ginyu's return help justify their existence to me.
The art quality on the other hand is a totally different story.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 20:51:37 GMT -5
So I was talking to a friend tonight about Xenoverse 2's Extra Pack 2 in February.
Based on the news, I easily expect Jiren, Ultra Instinct "Omen" Goku, & Android 21 as being added. The last character is iffy; Berserker Kale would make sense, but I think that should be saved for later & should go to Bergamo so you can have scenarios & start building the Tournament of Power DLC story considering at least four of Goku's battles involve potential DLC fighters.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Dec 31, 2017 21:13:00 GMT -5
So I was talking to a friend tonight about Xenoverse 2's Extra Pack 2 in February. Based on the news, I easily expect Jiren, Ultra Instinct "Omen" Goku, & Android 21 as being added. The last character is iffy; Berserker Kale would make sense, but I think that should be saved for later & should go to Bergamo so you can have scenarios & start building the Tournament of Power DLC story considering at least four of Goku's battles involve potential DLC fighters. Crazy to hear Xenoverse 2 is still releasing content. Loving it. The figure battles having been fun. Really glad they released it on Switch.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 21:37:38 GMT -5
Finally learned the original character for the Extra Pack 2. {Spoiler} Its Fu. Fu was the son of Mira & Towa in Online, except here he's grown up & became the Time Breakers version of Xeno Trunks.
This also hints at another DLC pack later in 2018.
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Post by chrom on Jan 6, 2018 10:46:34 GMT -5
DBS resumes tonight in Japan and The States.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 10:52:51 GMT -5
DBS resumes tonight in Japan and The States. Finally! Also... {Spoiler}Vegeta has to be the first guy to land a blow on Jiren without time distortion (Hit), or going by impulse alone (Omen Goku), especially with how fresh Jiren is again.
Its little nuggets like that & how SS4 Vegeta was stronger in GT that I appreciate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 20:06:43 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Vegeta had that boy Jiren shook after he got that shot in on him after reading his pattern.
How Vegeta and Goku got hits in on Jiren nicely ties in to what Whis said to them about their fighting styles and how Goku is stronger when he is angry and Vegeta is stronger when he is calm and focused and it showed here with Vegeta taking that moment to read Jirens pattern.
And in the preview for 123 Vegetas aura looks different so maybe Vegeta wont remain the punching bag....oh who am I kidding he is such and such he shall remain.
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Post by chrom on Jan 6, 2018 20:33:19 GMT -5
Toppo took that Kamehameha like it was nothing
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Post by chrom on Jan 6, 2018 22:25:32 GMT -5
To quote Gorilla: "The Pendulum has swung in the other direction, the tide has indeed turned."
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Post by Dub H on Jan 6, 2018 22:28:52 GMT -5
So it seems Vegeta will achieve something beyond Blue while Goku will have Ultra Instinct
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