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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 10, 2017 5:10:08 GMT -5
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 10, 2017 5:11:10 GMT -5
Many, if not the majority of issues plaguing TNA started under the Jarretts so I don't know why anyone would think things will improve. For example, when they created TNA. That's when things really started going downhill.
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 10, 2017 8:03:10 GMT -5
I'm actually curious to see what happens now, especially with the new partnership with NOAH and Crash. Considering where we are right now, it's not like things are gonna get worse. The big question mark is the Hardys. Will Jarrett still grant them full creative freedom if he's going to be more hands on? If they don't like that arrangement, would that be enough for them to head back to WWE for one more big payday? I don't think so, last year Jeff made it clear that he wanted a last wwe run. I get that they enjoyed having creative freedom, but nothing compares to the merch they would sell and their paychecks increase in the wwe. In my opinion, ego wise, i would return to the wwe. Let's face it, even the wm fan axxess out draws TNA. I would say the biggest question mark is Matt Hardy. The guy's probably got everything he wants in TNA and he gets to work independents as well so I'm wondering whether he'd give up all of that to come back to WWE, where he'll likely end up back as the Hardy Boyz.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Feb 10, 2017 15:29:18 GMT -5
Jarret is an entertaining guy and I thought he always was a criminally underlooked world champion, be it WCW or otherwise. His stint with TNA the first time was a golden age for me as a 20-something fan, I truly considered myself a TNA fanatic from 2002-2009. I liked that he came back in 2015 for that not-so-grand invasion.
I was saddened to hear about his GFW Gold scheme as I thought he really was above that kind of nonsense, I'm hoping that's not the attitude he's bringing back to the company.
(in)appropriatly enough, this got me thinking of Limp Bizkit
"Even though it's gonna crumble down..."
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Post by héad.casé on Feb 10, 2017 16:35:09 GMT -5
I heard that even if Jarrett wanted to appear on TNA TV he couldn't because of some contractual stuff involving GFW and the Amped footage they taped. It was something like that.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 10, 2017 23:31:59 GMT -5
I heard that even if Jarrett wanted to appear on TNA TV he couldn't because of some contractual stuff involving GFW and the Amped footage they taped. It was something like that. Going to need a source on that because I don't buy it, especially since Amped isn't airing that footage anywhere, and plenty of people from those tapings have since been signed to contracts that have them showing up on TV plenty.
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Post by corndog on Feb 11, 2017 0:23:15 GMT -5
If anything this kind of sounds worse? At least TNA has largely been funny bad, this just sounds bad bad. I agree, it's been so bad it's good lately, which for the last 5 years is really all we wanted from TNA. Now it's just going back to a boring, unenjoyable bad once again.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Feb 11, 2017 0:31:33 GMT -5
There are both good and bad. I am not as high on Dutch in creative as some are, but D'Amore is IMO a good get as he does have a good eye for talent. As for Jeff? I think towards the end of his run with pull he had some good ideas to try and help the company grow, but does that overlook the other things he's done? Eh... But if you listen to most former TNA guys, having Gaburick lose power isn't bad Well Dutch came up with good concepts the paparazzi gimmick which he created in Puerto Rico, he also created the Abyss character, this was when Abyss was awesome, not when he killed his own gimmick. Apparently, according to Cornette, Dutch was the main force behind Angle vs Joe when it was billed as a borderline MMA fight, Russo was the one who ruined it involving Karen. I don't remember Jarrett coming up with great ideas. To me he was the moron who killed the Nashville asylum by beating Raven clean and derailed Monty Brown. Dutch was also the guy who killed Raven's Serotonin stable before it could be anything special, just because he didn't "get" the gimmick. But anyone can have a bad judgment once in a while. Late 2005-2006 was TNA's best period, and that was when Jarrett, Dutch and D'Amore were in charge. They have a lot of work to do, but if they can get back the positives from that era, there's some hope.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Feb 11, 2017 1:02:50 GMT -5
I don't think so, last year Jeff made it clear that he wanted a last wwe run. I get that they enjoyed having creative freedom, but nothing compares to the merch they would sell and their paychecks increase in the wwe. In my opinion, ego wise, i would return to the wwe. Let's face it, even the wm fan axxess out draws TNA. I would say the biggest question mark is Matt Hardy. The guy's probably got everything he wants in TNA and he gets to work independents as well so I'm wondering whether he'd give up all of that to come back to WWE, where he'll likely end up back as the Hardy Boyz. I was at the NXT show last night at the Tower and there were several LOUD "Delete!" chants when the audience wasn't happy with something. They'd probably want to turn Jeff pretty quickly back to his old self, but there's no way they could just pretend Broken Matt isn't what revitalized their act. NXT would probably be the perfect place for them. Less travel, closer to home, the audience is more geared to their current gimmick than the larger Raw/Smackdown audience that might want the Hardys they remember, and they'd probably be able to do whatever they want creatively. Their merchandise alone would probably outearn what they make in TNA and on the indies.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Feb 11, 2017 1:09:09 GMT -5
Well Dutch came up with good concepts the paparazzi gimmick which he created in Puerto Rico, he also created the Abyss character, this was when Abyss was awesome, not when he killed his own gimmick. Apparently, according to Cornette, Dutch was the main force behind Angle vs Joe when it was billed as a borderline MMA fight, Russo was the one who ruined it involving Karen. I don't remember Jarrett coming up with great ideas. To me he was the moron who killed the Nashville asylum by beating Raven clean and derailed Monty Brown. Dutch was also the guy who killed Raven's Serotonin stable before it could be anything special, just because he didn't "get" the gimmick. But anyone can have a bad judgment once in a while. Late 2005-2006 was TNA's best period, and that was when Jarrett, Dutch and D'Amore were in charge. They have a lot of work to do, but if they can get back the positives from that era, there's some hope. I can't blame him for ending Serotonin, as big of a fan as I am of Raven and how I believe Jarrett screwed Jim, he was beyond his expiration date during that time. Once he had his thyroid issues in 2006-2007 he was just never the same.
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 11, 2017 1:14:34 GMT -5
I would say the biggest question mark is Matt Hardy. The guy's probably got everything he wants in TNA and he gets to work independents as well so I'm wondering whether he'd give up all of that to come back to WWE, where he'll likely end up back as the Hardy Boyz. I was at the NXT show last night at the Tower and there were several LOUD "Delete!" chants when the audience wasn't happy with something. They'd probably want to turn Jeff pretty quickly back to his old self, but there's no way they could just pretend Broken Matt isn't what revitalized their act. NXT would probably be the perfect place for them. Less travel, closer to home, the audience is more geared to their current gimmick than the larger Raw/Smackdown audience that might want the Hardys they remember, and they'd probably be able to do whatever they want creatively. Their merchandise alone would probably outearn what they make in TNA and on the indies. I could definitely see Matt being big in NXT as HHH would probably let him do whatever he wanted. I more question Vince as he likely wouldn't get it at all.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Feb 11, 2017 2:38:06 GMT -5
"I don't get this Matt stuff".
*3 Weeks Later*
"WWE Buys TNA".
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 11, 2017 6:15:02 GMT -5
Bring back AMW and drop DCC. I imagine current day Harris is 500 pounds. Harris: I wash myself with a rag on a stick. Storm: (muttering) Sorry about MY damn luck.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 11, 2017 15:38:33 GMT -5
I would say the biggest question mark is Matt Hardy. The guy's probably got everything he wants in TNA and he gets to work independents as well so I'm wondering whether he'd give up all of that to come back to WWE, where he'll likely end up back as the Hardy Boyz. I was at the NXT show last night at the Tower and there were several LOUD "Delete!" chants when the audience wasn't happy with something. They'd probably want to turn Jeff pretty quickly back to his old self, but there's no way they could just pretend Broken Matt isn't what revitalized their act. NXT would probably be the perfect place for them. Less travel, closer to home, the audience is more geared to their current gimmick than the larger Raw/Smackdown audience that might want the Hardys they remember, and they'd probably be able to do whatever they want creatively. Their merchandise alone would probably outearn what they make in TNA and on the indies. Honestly, the Hardys being in NXT would also be great for NXT, because their desperate clinging to name stars they can tour with like an indie fed is having them hold onto a lot of guys they shouldn't be, and the Hardys aren't just indie name value, they're still some measure of mainstream wrestling fan name value, and it would allow them to ease back considerably on having to keep hold of people who are more than ready to move up.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Feb 11, 2017 17:33:08 GMT -5
I imagine current day Harris is 500 pounds. Harris: I wash myself with a rag on a stick. Storm: (muttering) Sorry about MY damn luck. Storm sees somebody backstage watching NXT on their iPad "GLORIOUS!!" *Tears run down his cheek*
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Post by nate5054 on Feb 11, 2017 22:04:27 GMT -5
Is he going to run his gold scam thing there?
I was always sort of indifferent to him and enjoyed him on various podcasts, but I lost all respect for the man once he did that.
So now I have no respect for the company that hired him...though in fairness I didn't before this. The only reason I want TNA to survive is for the glorious threads it produces here.
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Post by Demented on Feb 12, 2017 1:54:45 GMT -5
He'll be world champion in no time.
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Post by Garyspivey on Feb 12, 2017 12:34:29 GMT -5
Does that mean we get MMA jarrett back?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 12, 2017 19:15:42 GMT -5
Is he going to run his gold scam thing there? I was always sort of indifferent to him and enjoyed him on various podcasts, but I lost all respect for the man once he did that. So now I have no respect for the company that hired him...though in fairness I didn't before this. The only reason I want TNA to survive is for the glorious threads it produces here. I honestly really hoe so, because a wrestling-branded gold bar ponzi scheme is honestly the most TNA thing I can imagine.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 12, 2017 22:30:24 GMT -5
Not saying the show is great by any means, but you can absolutely tell the difference already in presentation and IMO it is an improvement
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