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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 11, 2017 6:04:22 GMT -5
And there is the upset we all expected
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 11, 2017 6:38:43 GMT -5
A lot of people actually surprised that Fale won. I don't see why
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 11, 2017 6:47:24 GMT -5
And Evil wins after using the mist
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Post by AwamoriRock on Mar 11, 2017 7:47:39 GMT -5
A lot of people actually surprised that Fale won. I don't see why I think people who think Omega wins his half of the tournament thought he would be wrestling Elgin or Tana in the final. Tbh I'm not so sure about Omega even making it to the final.
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Post by chrom on Mar 11, 2017 7:57:00 GMT -5
What do they see in the Japanese Michael Bennett? Can't they trade him to TNA for a ripped turnbuckle? That's about double his value
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 11, 2017 10:45:34 GMT -5
NJPW New Japan Cup Night One February 11th, 2017 | Aichi Prefectural Gymnasium in Nagoya, Aichi
It’s time for New Japan’s annual New Japan Cup Tournament. I only gave one match in last year’s tournament four stars, but it was still mostly an enjoyable set of matches. This year’s brackets look more interesting, though three of the most anticipated matches for me (Suzuki/Shibata, Ishii/Omega and SANADA/YOSHI) are on night two.
El Desperado and TAKA Michinoku def. Hirai Kawato and Ryusuke Taguchi in 6:35 Like his brash performance during the anniversary shows, Kawato wanted to start things out for his team. It didn’t work too well as the heels took it to him. They made sure to knock Taguchi off the apron and prevent his tag. Kawato’s fire led to the tag eventually, which meant it was time for ass attacks and other Taguchi shenanigans. Kawato became legal again and picked up a few flash pins for near falls. There was an especially good one on a backslide following a Taguchi ass attack. Taguchi was taken out, leaving Kawato to lose to a spinning side slam of sorts. Typical NJPW opener. Taguchi was there to get the crowd going, Suzuki-Gun played their typical role and Kawato showed fire. **¼
Jushin Thunder Liger and IWGP Tag Team Champions TenKoji def. Manabu Nakanishi, Tiger Mask IV and Tomoyuki Oka in 6:47 These are the kind of matches Oka must love. He gets to work with all the NEW JAPAN DADS. Well, except Nagata in this one. Tenzan and Nakanishi had an old man battle at the start, with Tenzan busting out Kokeshi to honor Tomoaki Honma. Oka got the tag and threw around Liger for a bit. Kojima got the tag shortly after and went wild on Tiger Mask. It’s funny to me that Nakanishi and Oka look like father and son. Or the past and future of one man. Anyway, Kojima beat Oka with a lariat. Another relatively fun tag, made more enjoyable by all the dads putting in effort. **½
Kenny Omega and Yujiro Takahashi def. Tomohiro Ishii and YOSHI-HASHI in 9:50 Yujiro brought one of his finest ladies ever with him, though she had trouble walking in her shoes. This was here to hype Ishii/Omega tomorrow. The Bullet Club attacked before the bell but it didn’t lead to the typical brawl outside. CHAOS turned it around and worked over Omega. Yujiro got involved, so Ishii dumped him outside. He dismissed the hell out of Yujiro, which was funny. Still, the numbers game took over, allowing the BC to get the heat on Ishii. I liked that because Ishii is great at selling and garnering sympathy. Yujiro made the mistake of slapping Ishii around, Ishii beat his ass and tagged YOSHI, who came in hot. Like Ishii though, he fell victim to the numbers disadvantage. We got back and forth from YOSHI and Omega, which was fun. Omega got his knees up on a swanton before hitting the V-Trigger and One Winged Angel to score the victory. A nice jump in quality here. Yujiro was inoffensive and the other three guys were their usual fun selves. I’m so ready for Ishii/Omega tomorrow. ***
Los Ingobernables de Japon (NEVER Openweight Six Man Tag Team Champions BUSHI and SANADA, IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Champion Hiromu Takahashi and IWGP Intercontinental Champion Tetsuya Naito) def. David Finlay, Juice Robinson, Katsuyori Shibata and KUSHIDA in 8:41 KUSHIDA and Takahashi opened the action, giving a preview of their sure to be upcoming Wrestle Kingdom rematch. Knowing Taguchi had success with it, KUSHIDA went for an ankle lock early. When they were done, everyone else got their turn. It led to fun interactions between Finlay & BUSHI, Naito & Juice (he said he’d use a NJC win to challenge Naito) and SANADA/Shibata. I realized it here but I’d be all for a Shibata/SANADA match at some point soon. Finlay came in hot near the end and got some help from Juice. Shibata saved Finlay from Skull End before several guys came in for big offense. BUSHI hit Finlay with MX and SANADA made him tap to Skull End. I say this was the best thing on the show so far. LIDJ always deliver here, though they’ve had much better outings than this one. Still, it gave us a preview of Takahashi/KUSHIDA and teased some other fun possible matches. ***¼
CHAOS (Gedo, NEVER Openweight Champion Hirooki Goto, Jado and IWGP Heavyweight Champion Kazuchika Okada) def. Suzuki-Gun (Minoru Suzuki, Takashi Iizuka and IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Tag Team Champions Taichi and Yoshinobu Kanemaru) in 10:40 I know Okada’s the top champion but considering this match features Jado, Iizuka and Taichi, I’d have put the LIDJ tag as the first half closer. Suzuki-Gun jumped before the match began and everyone brawled outside. Suzuki himself took joy in choking Okada on the ramp. That left Gedo to take the heat for a while. Eventually, Okada made his way to the match and went at it with Suzuki. I couldn’t get excited for it since their match heavily disappointed last month. Things broke down before shitty Taichi fell to the Rainmaker. Ho-hum. These Suzuki-Gun/CHAOS matches don’t do much for me, like CHAOS/Bullet Club. Though this wasn’t bad, Suzuki-Gun has been a major disappointment since their return. **½
New Japan Cup First Round: Yuji Nagata def. Tanga Roa in 11:45 This is the first singles match of Tanga Roa’s NJPW career. Nagata is replacing the injured Tomoaki Honma. Five minutes into this match and you know what happened? A whole lot of nothing. Roa looked lost and had no clue how to fill time. Nagata got tired of his boring shit and fired up, demanding forearm strikes and dishing it back. Nagata hit the exploder but didn’t win with it and I cringed because it meant this would continue. He countered a clothesline into the armbar for the biggest pop of the match. He got two on a brainbuster before mercifully winning with the backdrop driver. Whoever thought Roa should work ten plus minutes is a moron. I’d have switched him with Tama Tonga. At least Tonga can work ten minutes and you could hide Roa in a two minute Toru Yano special. This sucked and was the worst NJPW match I’ve seen this year. I still might be generous with this score. ½*
New Japan Cup First Round: Toru Yano def. Tama Tonga in 3:46 Tama Tonga attacked Yano during introductions and beat him with his own DVD. That’s just rude. We got fun Yano antics as he ran from Tonga and called BREAK a ton. Yano avoided the Gun Stun and hid behind the referee. He delivered a cheap low blow and rolled up Tonga to steal it. IT’S THE YANO G1 SPECIAL! This worked fine though as I said in the previous match, I’d rather Roa get this spot since he’s so bad. Yano was more entertaining than anything in the last match. *¼
New Japan Cup First Round: Bad Luck Fale def. Michael Elgin in 10:33 I rather enjoyed their quarterfinal match in this tournament last year and have it at ***. This one started solidly, with each guy testing the strength of the other. After a countout tease (a staple of New Japan tournaments), Fale took over and worked a boring heat segment. There wasn’t much of that in their last match. Elgin had the highlight of the match with an impressive suplex. Towards the end, he escaped the Grenade and got another highlight on a German. Fale managed to come back and win with the Grenade. Nowhere near as good as their match last year. Kind of lifeless, dull and plodding. Also, I know New Japan likes to keep Fale strong in tournaments like this, but Elgin could’ve used a strong run after losing to Naito. *
New Japan Cup First Round: NEVER Openweight Six Man Tag Team Champion EVIL def. Hiroshi Tanahashi in 22:54 Tanahashi has lost in the first round of the previous two New Japan Cups (to Yano in 2015 and Fale in 2016). Considering the men involved and their interactions on the 45th Anniversary Shows, I was pumped for this. Tanahashi came in with a solid game plan, taking EVIL to the mat. EVIL took things outside and used a chair to gain the upper hand. That allowed EVIL to wear Tanahashi down inside. Tanahashi went into a flurry of offense before missing a senton. His next rally saw him hit High Fly Flow to the outside. Inside EVIL crotched Tanahashi up top by shoving the referee into him. Those refs sure are lenient. EVIL used the chair again, but Tanahashi fired up and shoved the ref himself! He hit a neckbreaker on the chair but EVIL got his knees up on High Fly Flow. They traded blows before EVIL came close with a lariat and modified fireman’s carry. Tanahashi survived a submission before they went into a series of counters. He hit slingblade but EVIL did his best BUSHI impersonation and spit the mist. He followed with the STO for the upset. The best thing on the show for sure. They started slow but worked into a really good match with a nice underlying story. Tanahashi acted heelish and is now 0-2 in singles matches this year. It’s like you can see his frustration growing, which I could see play out over the year. It was a big win for EVIL and I appreciated that the match was different from standard NJPW main events with a lot of chair use and such. ***¾
Overall: 4.5/10. To start this tournament, New Japan kind of shit the bed. The undercard featured some solid tag action that did the job they needed to, but none of it was bad. However, none of it stood out either. The major problem with this show (the worst from NJPW since Destruction in Hiroshima) is the New Japan Cup itself, which is the meat of the card. Three shitty matches capped off by Tanahashi and EVIL saving this from being a total wash. Watch the main event. Two tags are worth a look if you aren’t pressed for time but not must see. Night two does look better on paper though.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 11, 2017 11:37:38 GMT -5
A lot of people actually surprised that Fale won. I don't see why Fale usually does well during tournaments does he not? Also Elgin was the most likely to get upset as he is "stationery: at the moment
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Post by BRAINFADE on Mar 11, 2017 12:28:45 GMT -5
Trying to watch Night 1- is anybody currently having trouble with NJPW World? Just got to the start of Nagata/Loa match and the video keeps stopping.
EDIT: Never mind, it was just my laptop.
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Post by corndog on Mar 11, 2017 12:44:49 GMT -5
A lot of people actually surprised that Fale won. I don't see why Fale usually does well during tournaments does he not? Also Elgin was the most likely to get upset as he is "stationery: at the moment I am surprised, Fale hasn't don't anything for a while. The way the bracket is set up, I expected a face to come out of that side with Elgin being a guy I could see in the finals, since I think Omega/Suzuki have a good chance of winning the other side. Also, this sucks because the two best workers on that side are now eliminated. Tomorrow's show will be interesting and should definitely provide better matches.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Mar 11, 2017 14:04:19 GMT -5
Yeah... that show kind of sucked.
The prelim tag action was harmless fun, but the tournament matches were very pedestrian- Nagata/Loa was poor, I f***ing hate Yano, and Elgin/Fale killed the crowd.
But the main event was solid. Tanahashi, as always, delivers in the big spot, and that is the best I've personally ever seen EVIL. I love this long term booking with Tanahashi, the former ace who just can't quite get it done anymore.
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Post by chrom on Mar 11, 2017 17:23:17 GMT -5
Come on Omega
Safe to say The B Block's winning. Nagata's not winning at this point in his career, Fale's not going to sell out Sumo Hall, Watanabe still needs a bit more work but has a good chance next year and Yano winning would be the same as ROH choosing Xavier as Champion over Daniels.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 11, 2017 18:21:29 GMT -5
Yeah... that show kind of sucked. The prelim tag action was harmless fun, but the tournament matches were very pedestrian- Nagata/Loa was poor, I f***ing hate Yano, and Elgin/Fale killed the crowd. But the main event was solid. Tanahashi, as always, delivers in the big spot, and that is the best I've personally ever seen EVIL. I love this long term booking with Tanahashi, the former ace who just can't quite get it done anymore. Yes, I highly appreciate the course they are going down with Tanahashi and everytime he suffers a lost you can see the frustration continue to build. I wonder what the end game is with this tho? Would be interesting to see another match between him and Shibata as he wrestles Shibata style when they do wrestle and it can be played up as he is releasing his frustration which would work well with the love/hate relationship he had with Shibata.
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 12, 2017 0:29:09 GMT -5
Tonights Card
David Finlay vs. Tomoyuki Oka Jushin Liger & Yuji Nagata vs. Manabu Nakanishi & Tiger Mask Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Hirai Kawato vs. Bad Luck Fale & Tama Tonga & Tanga Roa Hiroshi Tanahashi & Michael Elgin & Kushida & Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Tetsuya Naito & Evil & Hiromu Takahashi & Bushi Kazuchika Okada & Hirooki Goto & Toru Yano & Gedo & Jado vs. Takashi Iizuka & Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Desperado & Taka Michinoku & Taichi
First round tournament matches
Yujiro Takahashi vs. Juice Robinson Yoshi-Hashi vs. Seiya Sanada Minoru Suzuki vs. Katsuyori Shibata Kenny Omega vs. Tomohiro Ishii
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Post by BRAINFADE on Mar 12, 2017 1:55:30 GMT -5
Tonights Card David Finlay vs. Tomoyuki Oka Jushin Liger & Yuji Nagata vs. Manabu Nakanishi & Tiger Mask Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Hirai Kawato vs. Bad Luck Fale & Tama Tonga & Tanga Roa Hiroshi Tanahashi & Michael Elgin & Kushida & Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Tetsuya Naito & Evil & Hiromu Takahashi & Bushi Kazuchika Okada & Hirooki Goto & Toru Yano & Gedo & Jado vs. Takashi Iizuka & Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Desperado & Taka Michinoku & Taichi First round tournament matches Yujiro Takahashi vs. Juice Robinson Yoshi-Hashi vs. Seiya Sanada Minoru Suzuki vs. Katsuyori Shibata Kenny Omega vs. Tomohiro Ishii How long until it starts?
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Post by Raskovnik on Mar 12, 2017 1:56:57 GMT -5
Tonights Card David Finlay vs. Tomoyuki Oka Jushin Liger & Yuji Nagata vs. Manabu Nakanishi & Tiger Mask Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Hirai Kawato vs. Bad Luck Fale & Tama Tonga & Tanga Roa Hiroshi Tanahashi & Michael Elgin & Kushida & Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Tetsuya Naito & Evil & Hiromu Takahashi & Bushi Kazuchika Okada & Hirooki Goto & Toru Yano & Gedo & Jado vs. Takashi Iizuka & Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Desperado & Taka Michinoku & Taichi First round tournament matches Yujiro Takahashi vs. Juice Robinson Yoshi-Hashi vs. Seiya Sanada Minoru Suzuki vs. Katsuyori Shibata Kenny Omega vs. Tomohiro Ishii How long until it starts? Would you be happy if I told you it starts in four minutes from this post?
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Post by BRAINFADE on Mar 12, 2017 1:59:53 GMT -5
How long until it starts? Would you be happy if I told you it starts in four minutes from this post? Indeed. To the laptop!!
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 12, 2017 2:16:32 GMT -5
Nakanishi has flu, is off tonight's card
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Post by BRAINFADE on Mar 12, 2017 2:30:06 GMT -5
For some reason, I get so much enjoyment out of watching Kawato getting murked.
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Post by BRAINFADE on Mar 12, 2017 2:34:52 GMT -5
Man, Tanahashi is just the best. You can just see in his face how much he is selling the loss from last night emotionally.
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Post by andrew8798 on Mar 12, 2017 2:36:00 GMT -5
My main man Naito
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