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Post by The Trashman on Apr 4, 2017 12:18:19 GMT -5
I say turn him heel at this point and make him a killer. Build towards face Cena vs. heel Roman at a big match like SummerSlam or WrestleMania. I can hear the "you both suck" and "please retire" chants already..
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 4, 2017 12:21:52 GMT -5
It seems like there's gotta be some official "confirmation" of it somewhere before we know for sure, either by the main commentator becoming disapproving of his actions or Reigns properly throwing shade at the fans and/or the local sports team.
The strange thing is that Strowman still seems to be feuding with him, so... He's still somehow probably not turned officially.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 4, 2017 12:25:56 GMT -5
If Michael Cole isn't shitting all over him, he's not a heel.
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Apr 4, 2017 12:35:12 GMT -5
It's a really a shame. You can tell deep down that Roman himself wants to be a heel and eventually go off-script and truly heel it up but he's being held back. So as far as it currently stands, we the WWE Universe, are the bad guys and are being treated as such for not doing what we're sheepishly told. Imagine if McDonalds went out of their way to call their customers fat and lazy and "hey if you don't like us, go to Wendys". This is basically the WWE and and how they're presenting Roman right now.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Apr 4, 2017 12:56:16 GMT -5
Nope. To quote Lawler on Talking RAW.
"We all know Roman and he's a GOOD GUY! He's a really good guy!!!"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 13:04:53 GMT -5
I say turn him heel at this point and make him a killer. Build towards face Cena vs. heel Roman at a big match like SummerSlam or WrestleMania. I can hear the "you both suck" and "please retire" chants already.. I feel like Cena / Reigns would be like Cena / Lashley where you put two unpopular faces against each other and Cena got cheered while Lashley just got apathy.
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Post by Cela on Apr 4, 2017 13:14:52 GMT -5
He's a heel to us, and that's all that matters. We want to see him lose. Kind of nice to have this new meta heel, rather than the usual dastardly Charlotte Flair bullshit.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 4, 2017 13:30:34 GMT -5
Like Meltzer said or WOR last night, until Roman is walking out to silence Vince loves what's going on. Guy sells a tonne of merch and gets huge reactions everywhere even tho they usually aren't positive responses
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Post by 111111 on Apr 4, 2017 13:34:16 GMT -5
Haven't you been listening?
He's not a bad guy He's not a good guy He's THE guy
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Apr 4, 2017 13:36:00 GMT -5
Like Meltzer said or WOR last night, until Roman is walking out to silence Vince loves what's going on. Guy sells a tonne of merch and gets huge reactions everywhere even tho they usually aren't positive responses Why don't they worry about this being a problem for getting new fans? Everyone hates the top good guy? This is completely impenetrable to anyone who doesn't already know what's going on.
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Post by RIHT on Apr 4, 2017 13:44:50 GMT -5
Until Roman is facing babyfaces in feuds or straight up facing both faces and heels on a regular basis, I don't buy this lame "he's already a heel" or "he's a tweener" arguments WWE pushes.
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Post by sravaj on Apr 4, 2017 13:53:34 GMT -5
C'mon he was a heel always... We just couldn't figure that out...
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Post by thetower52 on Apr 4, 2017 13:57:30 GMT -5
Until Roman is facing babyfaces in feuds or straight up facing both faces and heels on a regular basis, I don't buy this lame "he's already a heel" or "he's a tweener" arguments WWE pushes. He has to actualy be booked like a heel to not just beat baby faces
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Post by Raskovnik on Apr 4, 2017 14:04:52 GMT -5
The most you will get is them calling The Big Dawg "controversial" or "divisive".
"Roman Reigns! This is one controversial pup! And he's going for BRAUN STROWMAN! Has THE BIG DAWG bitten off more than he can chew?!"
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Post by kingofthings on Apr 4, 2017 16:27:21 GMT -5
At the time watching I thought they'd finally embraced him becoming a heel. Roman's opener was frankly superb in that respect - stood there chest puffed out, smirking at times and simply dropping "It's my yard now". He could end up being absolute GOLD with a full on heel persona, we could be on the cusp of a Triple H style elongated couple of years as a heel champion. They could EASILY follow the lead of Undertaker when he turned heel in 2002, just walking around, beating on people for no reason and confirming his status.
Heyman also hinted a little later in his promo that Reigns was in the locker room gloating, he made a gesture with his hand suggesting as much.
But then, then there are the counter-arguments. Commentators seemingly brushing off the WHOLE exchange at the start. Kept just saying that the post-Mania crowd is always bonkers. They had the chance to embrace the uncertainty on Raw Talk. Really speculate about "what next" and all that. Instead we get Lawler "you know and I know, Roman is a GOOD guy" as him and Renee brush over the whole thing.
Then there is Roman Reigns' tweet after the match at Mania.
If Roman didn't push as much merch as he did I would speculate that they'd actually move him to Smackdown next week. He could've gone there and formed a killer heel stable with The Usos. Hell, get Nia Jax moved across and get her involved in there too. It writes itself. In my opinion, Reigns looks like he does (critics suggesting he has a face looking like he doesn't care, etc.) because he WANTS this full on move to being heel and is trying to force his hand somewhat.
Have him absolutely KILL Strowman next week, like shocking beatdown. Yes Strowman is technically a heel but make it shocking to the point Angle intervenes and calls him out on it. Have Reigns then go after Angle. Nuclear heat immediately. For the first time in a LONG time there isn't any heel presence "running" Raw at the moment, they should use that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 16:52:44 GMT -5
nope.swf
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Post by joeiscool on Apr 4, 2017 17:13:04 GMT -5
who cares anymore..
He's heel enough..
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Post by Ricky Nightshade on Apr 4, 2017 17:34:13 GMT -5
He's not a good guy, he's not a bad guy...
But I think they're doing to whole shades of gray thing. Yes commentary is trying to cover for him but you don't let the crowd just chant obscenities at you for 10 minutes and say 5 words expecting to be the beloved babyface.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Apr 4, 2017 18:08:17 GMT -5
Cocky Roman is so great. I don't even like Cena but I REALLY want to see ultra cocky unstoppable Reigns vs ultra cocky unstoppable Cena.
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Post by kingbookermark on Apr 4, 2017 21:35:48 GMT -5
No. As soon as he left, the announcers gave the, "This is bizarro world/these fans are different!" spiel. If he were heel, I don't think they would have immediately went into "WWE Propaganda!" mode. This all the way
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