Brain Of F'n J
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Nov 3, 2006 14:33:51 GMT -5
One co-champ error does not favortism make. Years and years of blatant weighted results against/for certain schools are more indicitive (such as a season or two ago, when MSU started 4-0 and U of M went 2-2, and MSU was still ranked LOWER then U of M).
Jed Shaffer ~And don't get me stated on Notre Dame getting a bowl game when they have sub .500 seasons.
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Aya Reiko
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Post by Aya Reiko on Nov 3, 2006 14:37:13 GMT -5
I hate this stupid system they have for college football. What the hell is the point of bowl games besides the national one? None. And so help me if Rutgers goes undefeated and doesn't get a spot in the championship game. They really need a playoff system. Join the f***ing club. It's made so all the big schools are guaranteed all the attention and money (especially the money) from playing in the important bowl games. It's built so that teams from the 6 BCS Conferences will always get the spotlight while the 5 other conferences do not. Plus the polls used by the BCS are infamous for their bias. Wanna see a Cinderella team make an unprecedented run for the championship (like Villanova did in basketball)? Forget it. If you're not from an elite group of colleges, you will never see "National Champion" and "Football Team" ever side-by-side. Ultimately, it's phonemically corrupt system built to benefit a select few.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Nov 3, 2006 14:37:28 GMT -5
if it was really fair it would be on a dificulty of schedual. Yet since USC is the only team that ever has a team and can easily win games in PAC 10 they allways go undefeated or damn near it. Yet if they were in SEC or Big 12 or Televen they would have a .5 record.
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EvilMasterBetty, Esq.
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Nov 3, 2006 14:43:01 GMT -5
Well, here's the thing with Rutgers. If they run the table, that means they'll have beaten a top 3 team (Louisville), another top 15-20 team (WV) and a good Pittsburgh squad. Those are three quality wins right there. As well, they will be the only BSC conference team besides the winner of Ohio State/Michigan that will be undefeated. If it was any school but Rutgers, they'd be in the national title game. But because they don't have the "name" or haven't been marquee for the past 20 years they won't get a chance.
I think the BCS could be in a lot of trouble if, by some set of circumstances, the Michigan/Ohio State game ends up being replayed as the national title game. It's similar to when Oklahoma ot into the national title game 3 years ago after getting crushed in the Big 12 Title game. You shouldn't be able to lose your conference and still be considered for a title game just because people think you're a better team. You have to prove it on the field.
That said, I actually think the BCS will work this year, since both Loisville and Rutgers will fall, hence killing any chance of a Big East rep, and more likely than not Auburn or Florida will finish with one loss as SEC champ. So it will be SEC v. Big 10 for the National Title.
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Aya Reiko
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Post by Aya Reiko on Nov 3, 2006 14:51:53 GMT -5
Yes and it was horribly inaccurate. #1 was college presidents. Hello! That IS the reason you can blame the BCS. What were the other reasons? I'm guessing the coaches who vote in the polls.
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KLRA
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Post by KLRA on Nov 3, 2006 14:54:42 GMT -5
One co-champ error does not favortism make. Years and years of blatant weighted results against/for certain schools are more indicitive (such as a season or two ago, when MSU started 4-0 and U of M went 2-2, and MSU was still ranked LOWER then U of M). Jed Shaffer ~And don't get me stated on Notre Dame getting a bowl game when they have sub .500 seasons. Hey Jed you seem like a nice guy and all, but when you mess wth the Irish, just remember they have God on their side. Now do you really want to piss him off?
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EvilMasterBetty, Esq.
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Nov 3, 2006 14:55:23 GMT -5
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 3, 2006 15:50:06 GMT -5
Number 4 is a crock of shit.
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Post by Dynamic Dee on Nov 3, 2006 16:04:49 GMT -5
I don't think too many people like the bowl system besides the people who make money from it. Fans want to see a real playoff system thats in every other sport.
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Post by Tonto Goldstein on Nov 3, 2006 16:48:43 GMT -5
Hey Jed you seem like a nice guy and all, but when you mess wth the Irish, just remember they have God on their side. Now do you really want to piss him off? Bullshit. If God was a Notre Dame fan, then Ron Powlus would've lived up to the hype.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Nov 3, 2006 18:06:23 GMT -5
I always thought they should keep the rankings system but, take the top 4 or 8 teams in the BCS rankings and pair them off (1 vs. 8, 2 vs. 7, and so on) in a miny playoff. Start the bowl season a week early and each game takes place a different bowl with the "top 4" bowls rotating the championship game.
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Post by Tyfo on Nov 3, 2006 18:24:06 GMT -5
As a Texas fan, im growing increasingly pissed over the B(C)S.
So, we lose to the #1 overall team in all the polls, but we are 7th because the Big 12 is weak right now??? Ok, im sorry that the other losers in the conference cant keep up with Texas.
To me, Texas should be the #5 team. It should go Ohio State, followed by Michigan, then Louisville, and then Rutgers as they are all unbeaten.
Texas should be the first 1 loss team, since that 1 loss is to the best team in the land. Follow them with West Virginia(1 loss to the #3 team), Auburn(beat Florida), Florida(lost to Auburn, therefore should be behind them).
It should be about WHO you lose to if you have 1 loss. But thats just my opinion.
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Erik Majorwitz
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Nov 3, 2006 18:29:29 GMT -5
The Big Ten is overrated not to mention incorrectly named. Everyone that wants a BCS bid should be in a conference that has a championship game, so that should exclude the Pac-10 and Big Ten.
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Post by Tonto Goldstein on Nov 3, 2006 18:55:49 GMT -5
The Big Ten is overrated not to mention incorrectly named. Everyone that wants a BCS bid should be in a conference that has a championship game, so that should exclude the Pac-10 and Big Ten. Overrated? It's the 2nd best conference in the nation.
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Post by mid-south on Nov 3, 2006 20:37:15 GMT -5
BCS=controversy. And according to Eric Bishoff, "Controversy creates cash." It makes every game during the season basically a playoff game. But if there were a 8-16 team playoff system, I think the rating would be through the roof.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Nov 3, 2006 21:10:42 GMT -5
Another way to screw up the BCS is if OSU lost to Illinois,Michigan lost to OSU,Louisville lost to Rutgers,and Rutgers lost to WVU and Boise State remained unbeaten.Why? Because it'll make it interesting to see IF they put BOISE STATE in the title game unbeaten.
The BCS,however has screwed up TOO MANY times in the past.
In 2001,Nebraska got blown out 62-36 against Colorado and then Colorado won the Big 12 Championship.HOWEVER Nebraska STILL made the Championship game over a team that beat them and a fantastic Oregon team.As a result Miami got the easy win 37-14.
In 2003,Oklahoma LOST to Kansas State 35-7 in the Big XII Championship,the next day they were picked OVER USC(who was #1 in the AP Poll I believe)then lost to LSU in a boring Championship game 21-14.
In 2004,Utah and Auburn were unbeaten along with USC and Oklahoma.USC and Oklahoma faced off while Utah and Auburn were thrown aside to face Pittsburgh and Virginia Tech,respectively.USC goes on to kill buttf*** humble drag OU straight to hell,spit em out,run em over with the Bush Train,and shoot them in the balls 10 times in the title game.Sure Auburn only won by 3 but it should've been Auburn vs Utah in the Sugar Bowl with both winners as Co-Champs(I believe Utah SHOULD'VE gotten a share they absolutely murdered Pitt.
As for this year,if Notre Dame(who I'm also a fan of along with Maryland),USC or Texas make it to the title game this year it'll be BS,IMO.
However the only way I see a OSU/Michigan rematch is if and only if the OSU and Michigan game goes down the wire to 2-4 OT's or something ending on a Goal Line stop on 4th and Goal at the 1.A rematch I believe would draw ratings in the 15's or so.These days sport leagues care about ratings.Some people(I included) believe a OSU/Michigan rematch(if it is a close game the 1st time) would draw HIGHER than OSU vs Louisville or Rutgers.Personally I had no problem with the BCS til Nebraska made the title game.
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Post by Aya Reiko on Nov 4, 2006 5:04:24 GMT -5
BCS=controversy. And according to Eric Bishoff, "Controversy creates cash." It makes every game during the season basically a playoff game. But if there were a 8-16 team playoff system, I think the rating would be through the roof. A 16 team playoff system is entirely doable. We can go through the beginning of the playoff to determining a national champ in the span of a month. And with 16 teams, we have the 11 divisional champs + 5 at large bids. Will it happen? Hah. Not until the current masterminds of the BCS system are indicted for corruption charges and/or government intervention.
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Post by angryfan on Nov 4, 2006 5:15:20 GMT -5
Too much money in bowl games, so the playoffs won't happen (no idea why the playoffs wouldn't bring in as much money, but I digress). As a guy that went to U of Florida, I'm glad they're doing well again, but am slightly pissed that one loss, by four points, on the road, with bad calls all around will keep the team out of the title picture.
Oh well, at least it won't be USC or Notre Dame, so I'm happy.
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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Nov 4, 2006 7:40:03 GMT -5
Hey Jed you seem like a nice guy and all, but when you mess wth the Irish, just remember they have God on their side. Now do you really want to piss him off? Bullcrap. If God was a Notre Dame fan, then Ron Powlus would've lived up to the hype. God did give them Joe Montana. Guess he figured "that ought to keep em happy for a while."
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Post by THE Baldy Kendrick on Nov 4, 2006 7:47:39 GMT -5
See, I don't have a problem with the BCS. I mean, football's a different monster than any other collegiate sport, and adding 3 or 4 games to the end of a season can be devestating. That's why the NCAA doesn't have a football playoff at any level.
(Someone whispers something in my ear)
Wait. You mean to tell me they have a playoff at every level of football except A-1?
Barnicles. Playoff or bust, baby!
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