"The only way to win the Street Fight is in the ring!"

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Um... WHAT??

I literally had to pause everything after I heard that in the Tozawa/Kendrick match. ...Isn't the whole point of a Street Fight is that it's a STREET FIGHT? Like you can literally take a fight to the streets if you wanted to?? Not "Take a fight to the streets but make sure you take him back to the ring to pin him!". If this is their solution to make a Street Fight, a No DQ, and a Falls Count Anywhere seem different, they've done terribly.

Edit: Before anyone tells me that has always been the rule, I've been informed already. That must be something in all my years watching wrestling I never picked up on. I think it sorta blended in my head with all the other hardcore match stipulations and it just... I don't know never seemed to click that a match called a STREET FIGHT had to end inside of a ring... seems like it makes it a bit of a moot point... 

Nevertheless, on another note to me 205 Live only continues to be such a shitshow. Aside from the Table Break the Street Fight was pretty uneventful as a whole for the big blowoff to this feud that lasted a century. Not even mentioning how Cedric THAT DUDE Alexander returned to DEAD SILENCE tonight. Or that excruciatingly long Neville/Austin Aries Titantron exchange. This brand needs to cut its losses, because it's getting worse and worse, and with stuff like NXT and the UK Brand, it's even outshined as a stand alone brand right now. Just... bleh.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Can I also add "Kendrick made a huge name for himself in The Attitude Era!"

Like F***ing what?? Lol.

[Deleted]

I enjoyed the match. Most satisfying table break. I also found that to be one of the best 205 Live shows in a long time. Also announcers tend to slip up from time to time. I talk for a living and god knows I had moments of lapses like that. Like I said from the start the concept of counterweights is a dated thing when you have guys like Finn Balor or AJ Styles who are smaller than half of the 205 Live Roster and wrestling fans hate feeling like they are forced to like something with the different in ring presentation and how long it takes to set up the stage which is why Raw has long breaks of commercials and backstage segments before a cruiserweight match starts. Also doesn't WWE have dark matches, main event matches, and sometimes NXT tapings after a Takeover as well before Smackdown?

[The Sam]

They are correct. There's no "falls count anywhere" stipulation in a street fight. Which also means rope breaks are enforced.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 24, 2017 1:53:40 GMT -5 The Sam said:

They are correct. There's no "falls count anywhere" stipulation in a street fight. Which also means rope breaks are enforced.

I could have sworn they had pinfalls anywhere in previous street fights, hence the name which never seemed to indicate fighting ending in a ring for the matches.

Also rope breaks were not enforced in this match.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 24, 2017 1:51:25 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

I enjoyed the match. Most satisfying table break. I also found that to be one of the best 205 Live shows in a long time. Also announcers tend to slip up from time to time. I talk for a living and god knows I had moments of lapses like that. Like I said from the start the concept of counterweights is a dated thing when you have guys like Finn Balor or AJ Styles who are smaller than half of the 205 Live Roster and wrestling fans hate feeling like they are forced to like something with the different in ring presentation and how long it takes to set up the stage which is why Raw has long breaks of commercials and backstage segments before a cruiserweight match starts. Also doesn't WWE have dark matches, main event matches, and sometimes NXT tapings after a Takeover as well before Smackdown?

I thought it was one of the worst 205 Live Episodes frankly.

- Davari vs Swann ended anticlimactically, why have him kick out of the Rich Kick to immediately lose to the Phoenix Splash? Dar laying him out after was fine but the match itself was lame.

- The Neville/Aries segment was torture, and the crowd you could hear as it went was taken more and more out of it. It doesn't help that they've had these segments for weeks already, so taking up near ten minutes of time of back and forthing on a Titantron with stuff we've already heard before didn't help anyone imo.

- Crowd was dead for Cedric, dude returned to zero momentum. Jobber match was expected, but Cedric deserves better than this dead end division as do plenty of others for that matter

- Gulaks promo was aces, I can approve of that.

- Tozawa/Kendrick didn't do it for me. Probably because Ive watched these guys wrestle 20 times prior. Table Break spot was fine, More Creative Duct Tape memes for WWE I guess, but overall I thought it was an extremely meh Street Fight where the crowd was more invested in the table being used than the action itself. Oh well, at least the table breaking got a pop.

Overall I just think this brand is useless, even more so when the RAW extension is quick squash matches that don't get anyone interested in watching the damn brand in the first place. This was terribly planned. If they wanted to have this be successful they should have stuck it in Full Sail. Because the RAW and After Smackdown crowds have aside from a few spare occasions, murdered this division, as have some of the booking decisions with it.

[Welfare Willis]

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Street Fights have been this way in the company forever. We are talking Cactus vs HHH in 2000.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 24, 2017 4:28:50 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

Street Fights have been this way in the company forever. We are talking Cactus vs HHH in 2000.

Man this must be one of those things in wrestling where they never really say the rule so you just assume it's Falls Count Anywhere. Like when you hear the name "Street Fight" you kind of assume the fight can end anywhere.

I guess shit like Falls Count Anywhere and No DQ's and Hardcore Title Matches all kinda blended together in my head when I thought about it. 

[Ricky Nightshade]

I always assumed Street Fights are just No DQ matches but with street clothes on.

[Deleted]

Street Fights should be non-sanctioned last man standing matches. I'm not talking about the whole "count to ten" style LMS match, but straight up, you don't win until the ref stops the match. Because otherwise, a street fight is just a fancy name for no DQ.

[The Thread Barbi]

Sounds like Vinnie Mac logic, "Street fights are won in the ring, pal. Otherwise why fight?"

[________ has left the building]

Basic rules of WWE. A street fight is a brawl with with weapons but has to end in the ring. Also can be called a boot camp match. A falls count anywhere is almost the same except it doesn't have to end in the ring and no rope breaks. A no DQ match has no rules but generally end in the ring. A non sanctioned match is anything goes with no official WWE approval. A Texas death match/Last Man Standing match is no DQ and only ends when the opponent is not on their feet by the count of 10.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

May 24, 2017 7:11:29 GMT -5 ________ has left the building said:

Basic rules of WWE. A street fight is a brawl with with weapons but has to end in the ring. Also can be called a boot camp match. A falls count anywhere is almost the same except it doesn't have to end in the ring and no rope breaks. A no DQ match has no rules but generally end in the ring. A non sanctioned match is anything goes with no official WWE approval. A Texas death match/Last Man Standing match is no DQ and only ends when the opponent is not on their feet by the count of 10.

I believe Texas Death Match is separate from Last Man Standing, as it necessitates both a pinfall and an unanswered 10 count to win it.

[________ has left the building]

May 24, 2017 7:17:13 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

May 24, 2017 7:11:29 GMT -5 ________ has left the building said:

Basic rules of WWE. A street fight is a brawl with with weapons but has to end in the ring. Also can be called a boot camp match. A falls count anywhere is almost the same except it doesn't have to end in the ring and no rope breaks. A no DQ match has no rules but generally end in the ring. A non sanctioned match is anything goes with no official WWE approval. A Texas death match/Last Man Standing match is no DQ and only ends when the opponent is not on their feet by the count of 10.

I believe Texas Death Match is separate from Last Man Standing, as it necessitates both a pinfall and an unanswered 10 count to win it.

All depends on what standards WWE is going by. A typical Texas Death Match is a pinfall and answering the 10 count. WWE tends to ignore the pinfall portion.

[A Platypus Rave]

Street fights are just no disqualification matches usually in Jeans and that has always been the case in the WWF/E

[Rabbito Garcia]

May 24, 2017 1:47:24 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Can I also add "Kendrick made a huge name for himself in The Attitude Era!"

Like F***ing what?? Lol.

I mean, maybe not HUGE but he and Paul London were tag champs for a while. I wanna say they had the longest reign. Too lazy to confirm.

[A Platypus Rave]

May 24, 2017 8:48:24 GMT -5 Rabbito Garcia said:

May 24, 2017 1:47:24 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Can I also add "Kendrick made a huge name for himself in The Attitude Era!"

Like F***ing what?? Lol.

I mean, maybe not HUGE but he and Paul London were tag champs for a while. I wanna say they had the longest reign. Too lazy to confirm.

Technically that was post attitude era.

But yeah until the New Day's run they had the longest reign with the WWE Tag Team Championships.

[Rabbito Garcia]

Sorry, Platypus. I haven't been so good at knowing which striations in the fossil record demark the Attitude and Post-Attitude eras yet.

[A Platypus Rave]

May 24, 2017 8:55:53 GMT -5 Rabbito Garcia said:

Sorry, Platypus. I haven't been so good at knowing which striations in the fossil record demark the Attitude and Post-Attitude eras yet.

There is no real "Set" date. But most people usually use Mania 17 as the end, since it's a week after the last Nitro.

Kendrick didn't show up on the main roster until 2002 and only hung around for like 2 years and didn't particularly do anything. His longer run teaming with Paul London wasn't until 2005, and their title run didn't start until 2006.

So really he didn't do much until 2005 and I think everyone can agree that 2005 is decidedly not part of the Attitude Era.