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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 5, 2017 13:00:22 GMT -5
I'm pretty sick of it, I'm not gonna lie. She did it to Becky Lynch over on Smackdown (who still hasn't fully recovered) and she just did it to Bayley on Raw. Like, I understand WWE is high on the girl and I can understand why but holy shit, they are ruining everybody else in the division (which is also razor thin on both brands) for the sake of putting her over. It's so obnoxious.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 13:02:41 GMT -5
While the booking of Bayley against her has been especially awful, it's not like Bayley had any momentum to begin with. Already ground any of that to a halt with having her basically just step in and resume the Sasha / Charlotte feud and then making all of her segments about what great BFFs she and Sasha are.
They should slow it down on Alexa a bit, but same time, I find it kind of hard to begrudge her because there really isn't a single champion in WWE right now I'd say is well booked. You've got Jinder's stupidity, you've got Owens' awful face of America thing, you've got Naomi being the least important part of the division serving more as a plot device to keep the belt warm more than anything, you've got all three NXT champions doing the unbeaten heel thing at the same time with no real quality challengers left for any of them, you've got Dunne who basically doesn't count since the UK title rarely ever gets spotlighted, you've not got Lesnar, you've got Miz ping-ponging the belt constantly with no real goal, you've got the Usos doing well on their own but really just not having anyone equipped to play their thug characters off of and go really heavy with, and you've got Sheamus and Cesaro who they seem afraid to make look competent.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 13:08:42 GMT -5
I'm just sick and tired of long dominant mean girls title reigns. Michelle McCool, AJ Lee, Nikki Bella, Charlotte, Alexa Bliss, etc. Like after awhile they all just seem a blur of the same title reign match quality aside.
Like if WWE really needs a long term heel women's champion, can they at least break the mold with a monster, a unsexy truly scary psycho bitch like Nikki Cross, or Brock Lesnar like asskicker with Asuka?
Edit: Not saying Nikki Cross isn't hot but she doesn't play up the psycho factor to be sexy like AJ Lee being Harley Quinn or lesbian overtones with Mickie James. But she presents herself as a unhinged methhead who would mug you for a spare change and will still stab you even if you complied in a quick matter because she's psychotic. It's pretty refreshing actually
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 13:10:26 GMT -5
You know, I'm actually going to agree. When people said this about the Becky feud I disagreed and thought they just didn't mesh well together in the ring and with the booking (also because my girl Becky threw down well) but Becky isn't the same since that feud, she's cooled down some. This Bayley feud on the other hand, shit. I haven't seen anyone that stomped out in years. She literally asked for the match and got her ass kicked. In comparison, look at that Ambrose/Lesnar match. Ambrose lost but he at least didn't get get this. He didn't get shown up each and every week they were out there to cut promos like Bayley did. It's Alexa Bliss of all people.
I think I'll just turn the channel or do something else when she's on.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 5, 2017 13:10:29 GMT -5
It's like they said f*** it we don't need Charlotte to give someone else this mega push. Don't get me wrong I have no problem with Alexa but after they just gave Charlotte this long ass reign I was looking forward to a babyface getting some time to shine.
Babyface side is pretty thin so who is she going to feud with next. Sasha more than likely but I don't have high hopes for this feud. I guess what's irking people and you can chalk it up to her being a good enough heel is that she's allowed to tear down her competition but nothing comes against her.
Alexa continues to improve her all around game but her feuds still aren't compelling
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Post by Jiren on Jun 5, 2017 13:15:49 GMT -5
It's more the booking than Alexa herself, But yeah it's gotten to the point where "Feud with Alexa = Career slump"
But again that's creative's fault, She doesn't have the pull of people like Cena/Austin/Hogan where she can dictate booking
They shoulda stuck with the Bayley/Sasha story until "No Mercy" where the Bliss feud can start, Also at Survivor Series have
Team Bayley - Bayley - Mickie - Dana - Alicia (Turn her face)
Team Bliss - Alexa - Nia - Emma - Sasha
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 5, 2017 13:19:33 GMT -5
Like if WWE really needs a long term heel women's champion, can they at least break the mold with a monster, a unsexy truly scary psycho bitch like Nikki Cross, or Brock Lesnar like asskicker with Asuka? *coughNiaJaxcough* Not that she's unsexy, but moreso that she'd be a believable monster heel champ. But yeah, mean girl reigns are boring as f***
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 13:20:12 GMT -5
It's like they said f*** it we don't need Charlotte to give someone else this mega push. Don't get me wrong I have no problem with Alexa but after they just gave Charlotte this long ass reign I was looking forward to a babyface getting some time to shine. Babyface side is pretty thin so who is she going to feud with next. Sasha more than likely but I don't have high hopes for this feud. I guess what's irking people and you can chalk it up to her being a good enough heel is that she's allowed to tear down her competition but nothing comes against her. Alexa continues to improve her all around game but her feuds still aren't compelling I'm guessing the intention is to set up a self doubt thing for Bayley while moving the belt to Sasha, with the goal of doing a rematch in Brooklyn where Bayley gets the belt back and the groundwork's laid to finally turn Sasha heel at last and the Alexa thing is mostly just filler getting there but... I hate dragging shit out for SummerSlam or Mania solely for the sake of it to begin with, much less if you're going to drag it out with stuff this stupid.
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Post by Stu on Jun 5, 2017 13:20:23 GMT -5
Do you hate her as much as you hate Finn Balor?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 5, 2017 13:20:43 GMT -5
Between those two times she also lost constantly to Naomi and is literally the only momentum Naomi has had on Smackdown.
and while this feud hasn't done Bayley any favors. Bayley had no momentum to speak of going in due to the terrible feud with Charlotte and then not being able to decide if they wanted to run with the Sasha vs. Bayley program. That is what put Bayley into the slump, not Bliss.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 13:21:25 GMT -5
Not that she's unsexy, but moreso that she'd be a believable monster heel champ. Honestly Nia's so awkward and clumsy I have a hard time buying her winning any match, much less dominating. She has all of the look of a monster but none of the presence.
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Post by Perd on Jun 5, 2017 13:23:45 GMT -5
It's okay, Bayley just got a very intriguing email from a Nigerian prince.
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Post by sportatorium on Jun 5, 2017 13:23:50 GMT -5
They're booking her properly as a heel champion. Much like Neville, she should keep beating everyone until the right babyface is found to go over. Becky is much better chasing the belt & really Bayley is as well. Bayley's booking has been abysmal regardless of anything they've done with Alexa.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 13:24:08 GMT -5
Like if WWE really needs a long term heel women's champion, can they at least break the mold with a monster, a unsexy truly scary psycho bitch like Nikki Cross, or Brock Lesnar like asskicker with Asuka? *coughNiaJaxcough* Not that she's unsexy, but moreso that she'd be a believable monster heel champ. But yeah, mean girl reigns are boring as f*** I wanted to include her on that list but that match she had with Charlotte recently was so bad and she nearly killed her twice. Like I want Nia Jax or a woman with her build to be given a run it's just her wrestling is still pretty bad and still to green. But yeah back to the topic like I was hoping Becky would have a long babyface fighting champions run. I did find it cool Bliss won at first because I figured they are creating new stars but I was hoping she would lose fairly quickly to continue Beckys momentum as the fighting babyface champion that hasn't been seen in over 4 years.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 5, 2017 13:26:53 GMT -5
Not that she's unsexy, but moreso that she'd be a believable monster heel champ. Honestly Nia's so awkward and clumsy I have a hard time buying her winning any match, much less dominating. She has all of the look of a monster but none of the presence. I concede that she's got work to do, but they've done more with lesser talent than her in the past
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 5, 2017 13:29:12 GMT -5
It's like they said f*** it we don't need Charlotte to give someone else this mega push. Don't get me wrong I have no problem with Alexa but after they just gave Charlotte this long ass reign I was looking forward to a babyface getting some time to shine. Babyface side is pretty thin so who is she going to feud with next. Sasha more than likely but I don't have high hopes for this feud. I guess what's irking people and you can chalk it up to her being a good enough heel is that she's allowed to tear down her competition but nothing comes against her. Alexa continues to improve her all around game but her feuds still aren't compelling I'm guessing the intention is to set up a self doubt thing for Bayley while moving the belt to Sasha, with the goal of doing a rematch in Brooklyn where Bayley gets the belt back and the groundwork's laid to finally turn Sasha heel at last and the Alexa thing is mostly just filler getting there but... I hate dragging shit out for SummerSlam or Mania solely for the sake of it to begin with, much less if you're going to drag it out with stuff this stupid. But even so it's a big damn revolving circle. They have seemed to build up Sasha/Bayley since Summerslam and I assume they changed course once they was like f*** it let's bring Alexa over. If you wanted to wait to have Bayley/Sasha at Summerslam in Brooklyn, fine I get it but neither has any momentum. Sasha is spinning her wheels and Bayley has been a lame duck champ. The script essentially wrote itself with Sasha climbing her way back up to the top while always having to help Bayley keep her championship. Bayley tells her to stop coming to her matches which offends Sasha and you build tension from there.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 5, 2017 13:32:09 GMT -5
*coughNiaJaxcough* Not that she's unsexy, but moreso that she'd be a believable monster heel champ. But yeah, mean girl reigns are boring as f*** I wanted to include her on that list but that match she had with Charlotte recently was so bad and she nearly killed her twice. Like I want Nia Jax or a woman with her build to be given a run it's just her wrestling is still pretty bad and still to green. But yeah back to the topic like I was hoping Becky would have a long babyface fighting champions run. I did find it cool Bliss won at first because I figured they are creating new stars but I was hoping she would lose fairly quickly to continue Beckys momentum as the fighting babyface champion that hasn't been seen in over 4 years. Yea i'm a fan of Nia and thinks she has huge potential but since they called her up she's gone backwards at a really bad pace. It's a shame because she was really improving in NXT but at this point she is to dangerous to feature her in anything.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jun 5, 2017 13:36:05 GMT -5
I wish Alexa Bliss matches were any good but the best I've seen of her is 'Passable'.
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Post by Jiren on Jun 5, 2017 13:43:41 GMT -5
I'm guessing the intention is to set up a self doubt thing for Bayley while moving the belt to Sasha, with the goal of doing a rematch in Brooklyn where Bayley gets the belt back and the groundwork's laid to finally turn Sasha heel at last and the Alexa thing is mostly just filler getting there but... I hate dragging shit out for SummerSlam or Mania solely for the sake of it to begin with, much less if you're going to drag it out with stuff this stupid. But even so it's a big damn revolving circle. They have seemed to build up Sasha/Bayley since Summerslam and I assume they changed course once they was like f*** it let's bring Alexa over. If you wanted to wait to have Bayley/Sasha at Summerslam in Brooklyn, fine I get it but neither has any momentum. Sasha is spinning her wheels and Bayley has been a lame duck champ. The script essentially wrote itself with Sasha climbing her way back up to the top while always having to help Bayley keep her championship. Bayley tells her to stop coming to her matches which offends Sasha and you build tension from there. You could have had {Spoiler}Payback Sasha & Bayley vs Emma/Alexa - Bayley gets the pin
on Raw Sasha turns heel on Bayley and builds to Extreme Rules and a No DQ match
Extreme Rules Sasha Banks vs Bayley - No DQ - Sasha wins and "injures" bayley (Maybe arm in the chair spot)
On the Raw following have Sasha be dominant while building "Great Balls Of Fire"
Great Balls Of Fire Sasha vs Emma - Filler match but both are good enough to have a good one, Sasha wins and after Bayley comes out and attacks Sasha and Sasha bolts while refs hold back Bayley
On Raws, Build up Sasha vs Bayley at Summerslam and show Bayley as a lot more aggressive since Sasha injured her
Summerslam Sasha Banks vs Bayley - I quit - Bayley wins
After that build the Bayley/Alexa feud
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Jun 5, 2017 13:45:03 GMT -5
I don't really see much in Alexa so whatever, BUT I am very in favour of booking strong heels. Just don't make your good guys look like complete clowns. It's almost impressive how much they have ruined the Bayley character over the past year.
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