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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 23:47:56 GMT -5
I don't know if it's the lack of the curb stomp, or just not having good opponents to show some babyface fire with, or how Seth feels the need to try to work all the styles at once of being everything from a gutsty high-flyer to a powerhouse to a brawler to a technical specialist, or if his injury slowed him down, or what it is but... Man, like I said in the Great Balls of Fire thread I just plain cannot remember the last match from the guy I actually liked. Not counting, like, the Survivor Series match and stuff.
I think it really boils down to that styles thing, since Seth usually feels more like a guy trying to do all his cool tricks than like a competitor trying to win a fight, but either way, for a supposed workhorse whose ring work is his main selling point, guy really isn't very good in the ring these days and hasn't been for a long while.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jul 9, 2017 23:54:18 GMT -5
On Twitter, I basically compared him to a CAW on WWE 2K17 whose regular moveset is basically all the cool finishers.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 9, 2017 23:57:55 GMT -5
I think he's slowed down a little from the knee injury but his problem comes in when shit doesn't flow like it should. It's almost like his whole moveset was built around the curb stomp because he can tease the move from anywhere. I think at this point less is more with Seth and he needs to cut off some of the moves and just focus on the transitions between them if that makes sense
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Jul 10, 2017 0:13:24 GMT -5
Dude needs his Curbstomp back ASAP.
Hell even the Pedigree gave him something to work towards.
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Post by King Devitt on Jul 10, 2017 0:21:33 GMT -5
I'm telling you it's the blonde patch.
It's the source of his powers. He needs it back.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 10, 2017 0:23:02 GMT -5
Its been a combination of a lot of things, the gimmick, the injuries, the lack of being able to find a finish that works... it's been a mess...
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 10, 2017 8:34:40 GMT -5
Dude needs his Curbstomp back ASAP. Hell even the Pedigree gave him something to work towards. Yeah, I think this is the problem... he has nothing to build up to at the moment. The Knee to the Face which could work he's only used like twice and it's not established at all... so he hasn't been able to build the matches around that.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 10, 2017 8:44:39 GMT -5
Yeah this has been well documented. Rollins is not a great babyface to begin with and the lack of a decent finisher has just wrecked him. It's stunning how off he's been since losing the curb stomp. That and the injury seems to have slowed him down a bit.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 10, 2017 8:55:48 GMT -5
I'm telling you it's the blonde patch. It's the source of his powers. He needs it back. If Seth wants the Gold back on his waist, first he needs the Gold back in his hair. And a better finish than the Blasphe-Knee. It's WAY too awkward when he tries to set it up.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 10, 2017 9:44:50 GMT -5
I don't think it helps that they have yet to actually call the Kingslayer by name on air so it just looks like he's winning with a regular move.
He needs a faster finisher, soon. I know I'm the only one that likes the Faceplant DDT but even that or God's Last Gift would be better for ring psychology
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 10, 2017 9:47:10 GMT -5
Seth's finisher compared to when Omega does it looks like was. Plus once he lost the curb stomp his offense doesn't make sense since most of it was building up to the curb stomp
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 10:24:15 GMT -5
I don't think it helps that they have yet to actually call the Kingslayer by name on air so it just looks like he's winning with a regular move. He needs a faster finisher, soon. I know I'm the only one that likes the Faceplant DDT but even that or God's Last Gift would be better for ring psychology I say just go back to using the springboard knee as a finisher like he briefly did during the Shield days. It's quick, there are a lot of ways to get to it, and AJ's shown that people will take to a move of that sort as a finish.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 10, 2017 10:27:01 GMT -5
I still say if he was going to "hack a move" he should have taken destino.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on Jul 10, 2017 11:47:28 GMT -5
Small package/fisherman's buster DDT would get over like rover. A lot of Seth Rollins WWE-exclusive experts would likely mark for this "new" finisher. It hasn't been used in WWE ring yet that I'm aware of, and it was a nice, quick lights out finisher that I always saw as awesome when he used to do it.
But actually, he's fine. He's not going anywhere in a Bray Wyatt feud. I think he makes the most of out every match he's in. But they have to give him something to do. Being highly underutilized right now.
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Post by slappy on Jul 10, 2017 12:34:09 GMT -5
He needs to switch to trunks.
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Post by vinnysimmo on Jul 10, 2017 12:50:29 GMT -5
His wrestling is totally emotionless. In his match against HHH he was supposedy in a match against someone he hated. He just hit his studid moves like in any other match.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 12:53:14 GMT -5
His wrestling is totally emotionless. In his match against HHH he was supposedy in a match against someone he hated. He just hit his studid moves like in any other match. I also think Seth needs a long way to go to be GOAT. He needs to work on selling, which should be the biggest priority.
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Post by vinnysimmo on Jul 10, 2017 12:57:11 GMT -5
His wrestling is totally emotionless. In his match against HHH he was supposedy in a match against someone he hated. He just hit his studid moves like in any other match. I also think Seth needs a long way to go to be GOAT. He needs to work on selling, which should be the biggest priority. His "selling" of the knee at WM was garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 13:15:54 GMT -5
He's working with Bray.Bray is where babyfaces go to die.You get stuck having nothing matches in a program nobody cares about.
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Post by vinnysimmo on Jul 10, 2017 13:48:31 GMT -5
He's working with Bray.Bray is where babyfaces go to die.You get stuck having nothing matches in a program nobody cares about. Orton got pretty over woring against Bray.
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