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Post by dxbang on Jul 23, 2017 22:10:03 GMT -5
I think the WWE would be smart to add movies to the network. They can start with WWE films and acquire the rights to any wrestling related documentaries, etc. Eventually they can add any movie that any wrestler might be in then move to other sports related movies. Slowly, they add movies and shows just like other streaming services.
I truly think they can become a Netflix/Hulu competitor...only because they have a built in audience of over a million people. Don't raise the price at first then eventually raise it a few bucks. They can introduce their wrestling fans to these other movies/shows and in turn introduce other fans to wrestling. Win/Win.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 23, 2017 22:27:11 GMT -5
1,000,0000 is tiny. Netflix is around 100,000,000
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Post by bob on Jul 23, 2017 22:30:55 GMT -5
I'm surprised No Holds Barred isn't on the network
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 23, 2017 22:34:08 GMT -5
WWE studios seems to do alright for them, so I am a little surprised they don't have some stuff on there, but just because they had theater distribution rights, I guess it wouldn't mean they had streaming ones, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 22:37:56 GMT -5
I think the WWE would be smart to add movies to the network. They can start with WWE films and acquire the rights to any wrestling related documentaries, etc. Eventually they can add any movie that any wrestler might be in then move to other sports related movies. Slowly, they add movies and shows just like other streaming services. I truly think they can become a Netflix/Hulu competitor...only because they have a built in audience of over a million people. Don't raise the price at first then eventually raise it a few bucks. They can introduce their wrestling fans to these other movies/shows and in turn introduce other fans to wrestling. Win/Win. So....you WANT them to raise the price of the Network?
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Post by dxbang on Jul 23, 2017 23:24:46 GMT -5
I think the WWE would be smart to add movies to the network. They can start with WWE films and acquire the rights to any wrestling related documentaries, etc. Eventually they can add any movie that any wrestler might be in then move to other sports related movies. Slowly, they add movies and shows just like other streaming services. I truly think they can become a Netflix/Hulu competitor...only because they have a built in audience of over a million people. Don't raise the price at first then eventually raise it a few bucks. They can introduce their wrestling fans to these other movies/shows and in turn introduce other fans to wrestling. Win/Win. So....you WANT them to raise the price of the Network? If I can get the network with other movies and shows included, I wouldn't mind.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Jul 23, 2017 23:25:20 GMT -5
I'm surprised No Holds Barred isn't on the network I really want to see the WWE Network add the "No Holds Barred: The Movie, The Match" pay per view. Don't know why. I own the movie on DVD and I'm guessing the match might be serviceable, but nothing to write home about. But I just like the idea of this fully encompassing experience of a movie about wrestling and then a wrestling match essentially based on the movie. If anyone knows, what did they show first, the movie or the match?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2017 23:47:08 GMT -5
So....you WANT them to raise the price of the Network? If I can get the network with other movies and shows included, I wouldn't mind. Why not just get Netflix?
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Post by mattperiolat on Jul 24, 2017 0:19:07 GMT -5
I think No Holds Barred is on Hulu, so they have the rights at the moment. But everything else, color me clueless. Most of the DVDs are out of print as is, so no one is watching any of them. Bizarre.
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Post by doinkmark on Jul 24, 2017 7:51:34 GMT -5
Yes! This baffles me about WWE. You know you have a film division and a streaming service. How do you not simply put that together? I know it's probably a rights issue with their distribution partner(s), but...Why? Why not just put some language in your deal with them going forward that says "We get to stream this on the Network, but you can still shop it to Netflix, Hulu, or whoever on your end." Seems simple to me.
Pluto TV's wrestling channel just added a Batista movie. How does the company that shows mostly TNA figure out to add wrestler movies before WWE Network?
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Post by ERON on Jul 24, 2017 9:13:00 GMT -5
As long as they stick to WWE Films and movies starring wrestlers, I'd be okay with this. But I'm averse to the idea of non-wrestling related movies and shows on WWE Network. That's what Netflix and Hulu are for. There's still plenty of wrestling content out there for them to add.
If they absolutely must branch out beyond wrestling, they should look at adding other sports entertainment programming like roller derby, American Gladiators, and those Japanese obstacle course shows.
That said, No Holds Barred absolutely should be on the Network. Unlike most films starring wrestlers, that one was actually fully incorporated into Hogan's story line at the time.
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Post by dxbang on Jul 24, 2017 16:19:19 GMT -5
If I can get the network with other movies and shows included, I wouldn't mind. Why not just get Netflix? Many people can't afford both...so instead of paying ~$10 for each, they'd pay ~$13 and have the network as well as whatever movies/shows they're able to get the rights to. 2 services for the price of 1.5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 16:35:07 GMT -5
Why not just get Netflix? Many people can't afford both...so instead of paying ~$10 for each, they'd pay ~$13 and have the network as well as whatever movies/shows they're able to get the rights to. 2 services for the price of 1.5 People who aren't wrestling fans are not going to get WWE Network regardless of what else is on it.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 24, 2017 18:54:35 GMT -5
First of all, WWEN should not ever think of Netflix and Hulu as competitors. We've seen Vince get out of his niche wrestling promotion and it gets pretty ugly. Stay in your lane. Trying to compete with the big dogs in that space would be a MASSIVE undertaking (no puns, ya weirdos!) It would take boatloads of money and take focus away from their product, which is already suffering.
Now, if you wanted to gain the rights to say Beyond The Mat and No Holds Barred and other wrestling-relevant stuff at a somewhat reasonable price, then yeah. They are so hard up for actual programming as they keep cancelling their own shows, which probably needs to be a bigger list to begin with, not smaller. It's so weird to look back at what they expected the Network to be; an actual premium channel with tons of original content. And what the Network actually is; essentially a streaming service for the archive and very, very little else.
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Post by dxbang on Jul 24, 2017 18:56:20 GMT -5
You probably could have led with that instead of asking random questions, but people get Netflix or Hulu or Amazon for just one show (see All or Nothing, the NFL show on Amazon). That's the WWE's chance to bring back older fans, reel in casual fans, and make brand new ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 20:30:50 GMT -5
You probably could have led with that instead of asking random questions, but people get Netflix or Hulu or Amazon for just one show (see All or Nothing, the NFL show on Amazon). That's the WWE's chance to bring back older fans, reel in casual fans, and make brand new ones. They have the chance to bring back older fans, reel in casual fans, and make brand new fans with the 5 hours of free tv they have every week. If people don't even want to watch that, they aren't going to become a fan from the Network.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 24, 2017 20:40:19 GMT -5
You probably could have led with that instead of asking random questions, but people get Netflix or Hulu or Amazon for just one show (see All or Nothing, the NFL show on Amazon). That's the WWE's chance to bring back older fans, reel in casual fans, and make brand new ones. They have the chance to bring back older fans, reel in casual fans, and make brand new fans with the 5 hours of free tv they have every week. If people don't even want to watch that, they aren't going to become a fan from the Network. Wouldn't the main (and arguably only) appeal to older wrestling fans be the wrestling era they watched, which has already been up on the Network for some time?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 22:17:47 GMT -5
They have the chance to bring back older fans, reel in casual fans, and make brand new fans with the 5 hours of free tv they have every week. If people don't even want to watch that, they aren't going to become a fan from the Network. Wouldn't the main (and arguably only) appeal to older wrestling fans be the wrestling era they watched, which has already been up on the Network for some time? Absolutely. A lot of people(myself included) primarily have the Network for the older stuff. My point is that putting non-wrestling stuff on it isn't going to make people into wrestling fans. Even if your favorite tv show became exclusive to WWE Network, you would probably just wait for the DVD. If you aren't a wrestling fan you don't want WWE Network. And if you think wrestling is stupid, having a bunch of it available on demand isn't going to change your mind. If someone is curious about checking out wrestling for the first time, they will watch it on tv, not get a subscription to a service for it. And people don't want to watch it on tv for the most part. I'm not trying to attack the op, it's just a really pointless idea in my opinion. It would be like putting non MMA on UFC Fight Pass or putting non wrestling on NJPWWorld. Likewise, I wouldn't give a shit about sports being on Netflix. Having different services that focus on different things is good.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 24, 2017 22:38:52 GMT -5
Wouldn't the main (and arguably only) appeal to older wrestling fans be the wrestling era they watched, which has already been up on the Network for some time? Absolutely. A lot of people(myself included) primarily have the Network for the older stuff. My point is that putting non-wrestling stuff on it isn't going to make people into wrestling fans. Even if your favorite tv show became exclusive to WWE Network, you would probably just wait for the DVD. If you aren't a wrestling fan you don't want WWE Network. And if you think wrestling is stupid, having a bunch of it available on demand isn't going to change your mind. If someone is curious about checking out wrestling for the first time, they will watch it on tv, not get a subscription to a service for it. And people don't want to watch it on tv for the most part. I'm not trying to attack the op, it's just a really pointless idea in my opinion. It would be like putting non MMA on UFC Fight Pass or putting non wrestling on NJPWWorld. Likewise, I wouldn't give a shit about sports being on Netflix. Having different services that focus on different things is good. The thing is, a lot of big name shows have switched or cut services. I think it was South Park and King of the Hill who bounced from Netflix to be Hulu exclusive at around the same time. People complained, as they often do. But very, very few changed or cancelled services. It's a selling point for a service to have a show you like, but ultimately it's just a drop in the bucket for the vast majority on their decision of what to buy. Yahoo Screen tried that with Community, some older shows, and a bunch of money. It was a total disaster. WWE would have to put out so much money down on rights to shows and movies, and the meter would not likely move enough from that to justify it.
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Post by thegame415 on Jul 29, 2017 16:17:07 GMT -5
Explaining the idea of streaming to Vince was already tough enough with the wrestling, im sure movies won't be bette.
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