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Post by The Barber on Jul 29, 2017 23:16:15 GMT -5
Why not just get Netflix? Many people can't afford both...so instead of paying ~$10 for each, they'd pay ~$13 and have the network as well as whatever movies/shows they're able to get the rights to. 2 services for the price of 1.5 Netflix and Hulu ain't gonna want to be associated with 'rasslin', so that ain't happening (yes, I know they had documentaries about wrestling and WWE DVDs. It ain't the same as them putting out full PPVs of events).
First of all, WWEN should not ever think of Netflix and Hulu as competitors. We've seen Vince get out of his niche wrestling promotion and it gets pretty ugly. Stay in your lane. Trying to compete with the big dogs in that space would be a MASSIVE undertaking (no puns, ya weirdos!) It would take boatloads of money and take focus away from their product, which is already suffering. Now, if you wanted to gain the rights to say Beyond The Mat and No Holds Barred and other wrestling-relevant stuff at a somewhat reasonable price, then yeah. They are so hard up for actual programming as they keep cancelling their own shows, which probably needs to be a bigger list to begin with, not smaller. It's so weird to look back at what they expected the Network to be; an actual premium channel with tons of original content. And what the Network actually is; essentially a streaming service for the archive and very, very little else. Movie rights are a complicated issue. I don't believe that WWE can just put the movie on it's network and that's it. I could be wrong, though. Wouldn't the main (and arguably only) appeal to older wrestling fans be the wrestling era they watched, which has already been up on the Network for some time? Absolutely. A lot of people(myself included) primarily have the Network for the older stuff. My point is that putting non-wrestling stuff on it isn't going to make people into wrestling fans. Even if your favorite tv show became exclusive to WWE Network, you would probably just wait for the DVD. If you aren't a wrestling fan you don't want WWE Network. And if you think wrestling is stupid, having a bunch of it available on demand isn't going to change your mind. If someone is curious about checking out wrestling for the first time, they will watch it on tv, not get a subscription to a service for it. And people don't want to watch it on tv for the most part. I'm not trying to attack the op, it's just a really pointless idea in my opinion. It would be like putting non MMA on UFC Fight Pass or putting non wrestling on NJPWWorld. Likewise, I wouldn't give a shit about sports being on Netflix. Having different services that focus on different things is good. EXACTLY.
If WWE live programming was moved to the Professional Bull Riders streaming service, would you all stay and be fans of PBR? I doubt it.
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Post by dxbang on Jul 29, 2017 23:36:42 GMT -5
Many people can't afford both...so instead of paying ~$10 for each, they'd pay ~$13 and have the network as well as whatever movies/shows they're able to get the rights to. 2 services for the price of 1.5 Netflix and Hulu ain't gonna want to be associated with 'rasslin', so that ain't happening (yes, I know they had documentaries about wrestling and WWE DVDs. It ain't the same as them putting out full PPVs of events).
First of all, WWEN should not ever think of Netflix and Hulu as competitors. We've seen Vince get out of his niche wrestling promotion and it gets pretty ugly. Stay in your lane. Trying to compete with the big dogs in that space would be a MASSIVE undertaking (no puns, ya weirdos!) It would take boatloads of money and take focus away from their product, which is already suffering. Now, if you wanted to gain the rights to say Beyond The Mat and No Holds Barred and other wrestling-relevant stuff at a somewhat reasonable price, then yeah. They are so hard up for actual programming as they keep cancelling their own shows, which probably needs to be a bigger list to begin with, not smaller. It's so weird to look back at what they expected the Network to be; an actual premium channel with tons of original content. And what the Network actually is; essentially a streaming service for the archive and very, very little else. Movie rights are a complicated issue. I don't believe that WWE can just put the movie on it's network and that's it. I could be wrong, though. Absolutely. A lot of people(myself included) primarily have the Network for the older stuff. My point is that putting non-wrestling stuff on it isn't going to make people into wrestling fans. Even if your favorite tv show became exclusive to WWE Network, you would probably just wait for the DVD. If you aren't a wrestling fan you don't want WWE Network. And if you think wrestling is stupid, having a bunch of it available on demand isn't going to change your mind. If someone is curious about checking out wrestling for the first time, they will watch it on tv, not get a subscription to a service for it. And people don't want to watch it on tv for the most part. I'm not trying to attack the op, it's just a really pointless idea in my opinion. It would be like putting non MMA on UFC Fight Pass or putting non wrestling on NJPWWorld. Likewise, I wouldn't give a shit about sports being on Netflix. Having different services that focus on different things is good. EXACTLY.
If WWE live programming was moved to the Professional Bull Riders streaming service, would you all stay and be fans of PBR? I doubt it.
Unless those bull riders gained main stream popularity. Maybe a former bull rider becomes one of the biggest stars in Hollywood and goes back as a special guest for BullRiderMania 30. Then maybe people would tune in out of curiosity. Maybe one of the current bull riders gets decent sized roles in relatively big movies? Maybe the bull riding federation makes their own movies that some of the bull riders are in. Then it's possible that I'd give bull riding a shot, just to see where some of these guys are coming from.
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Post by schma on Jul 30, 2017 3:02:54 GMT -5
The answer to all of this is that Ready to Rumble should be on the network.
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Post by The Barber on Jul 30, 2017 7:02:51 GMT -5
Netflix and Hulu ain't gonna want to be associated with 'rasslin', so that ain't happening (yes, I know they had documentaries about wrestling and WWE DVDs. It ain't the same as them putting out full PPVs of events).
Movie rights are a complicated issue. I don't believe that WWE can just put the movie on it's network and that's it. I could be wrong, though. EXACTLY.
If WWE live programming was moved to the Professional Bull Riders streaming service, would you all stay and be fans of PBR? I doubt it.
Unless those bull riders gained main stream popularity. Maybe a former bull rider becomes one of the biggest stars in Hollywood and goes back as a special guest for BullRiderMania 30. Then maybe people would tune in out of curiosity. Maybe one of the current bull riders gets decent sized roles in relatively big movies? Maybe the bull riding federation makes their own movies that some of the bull riders are in. Then it's possible that I'd give bull riding a shot, just to see where some of these guys are coming from. You might give it a shot, but more than likely, you aren't staying around for the bull riding PPVs or events in your town.
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