|
Post by devilfish on Aug 14, 2017 12:06:11 GMT -5
My favorite MECW story was reading about their first (and only) event. Apparently they had been saying for weeks that this would be a "family friendly" promotion. And yet at the start of the show, Joel Gertner came out and did his usual double-entendre laden promo. And the main event was a triple threat ladder match with The Sandman and Sabu (and I can't remember the third for the life of me)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 8:05:35 GMT -5
My favorite MECW story was reading about their first (and only) event. Apparently they had been saying for weeks that this would be a "family friendly" promotion. And yet at the start of the show, Joel Gertner came out and did his usual double-entendre laden promo. And the main event was a triple threat ladder match with The Sandman and Sabu (and I can't remember the third for the life of me) They actually ran a bunch of shows, but that was the only one in the Northeast. Most were in Evansville, Indiana after that, and thus didn't get much coverage.
|
|
|
Post by myrvarg on Aug 15, 2017 23:01:12 GMT -5
TNA tried to expand into a national promotion without ever building up a base, a place they know they can always draw a paying crowd. Not to mention trying their damndest to compete with WWE, but they were never close to doing so. Hell, some, if not a lot, of the time they went far as to make jabs at WWE, but it clearly did not work for TNA. TNA's only strategy seemed to be, "Let's sign who left WWE this week and make them a main eventer! " and they thought the star power of the ex WWE guy would be enough to help them gain steam nationally. They also signed tons of worthless guys WWE didn't want for good reason who just took up space on TNA's roster. In reality all this strategy did was sort of screwed over their homegrown stars like AJ Styles and Samoa Joe. God especially Joe when he jobbed out to Kurt Angle in Angle's first match abruptly ending Joe's undefeated run, basically saying any top WWE guy can beat a top TNA guy. They should not have rushed that match in particular. They did the same thing years later with Rob Van Dam beating AJ Styles for the title quickly.
|
|
agent817
Fry's dog Seymour
Doesn't Know Whose Ring It Is
Posts: 21,308
|
Post by agent817 on Aug 15, 2017 23:05:03 GMT -5
Not to mention trying their damndest to compete with WWE, but they were never close to doing so. Hell, some, if not a lot, of the time they went far as to make jabs at WWE, but it clearly did not work for TNA. TNA's only strategy seemed to be, "Let's sign who left WWE this week and make them a main eventer! " and they thought the star power of the ex WWE guy would be enough to help them gain steam nationally. They also signed tons of worthless guys WWE didn't want for good reason who just took up space on TNA's roster. In reality all this strategy did was sort of screwed over their homegrown stars like AJ Styles and Samoa Joe. God especially Joe when he jobbed out to Kurt Angle in Angle's first match abruptly ending Joe's undefeated run, basically saying any top WWE guy can beat a top TNA guy. They should not have rushed that match in particular. They did the same thing years later with Rob Van Dam beating AJ Styles for the title quickly. I'm sure that it was every Fan's dream up to that point to see Kurt Angle go up against Samoa Joe, but I think that angle was just rushed from the get-go. I would have given Kurt at least maybe a few minutes before the dream match would have occurred. Give some more Joe at at least a few more months for his undefeated run, maybe a push for the world title before jobbing. Then you had guys like Tomko, who served as nothing more than Christian's goon in WWE and actually made him look more important. He was even over with fans in TNA
|
|
|
Post by myrvarg on Aug 15, 2017 23:13:23 GMT -5
TNA's only strategy seemed to be, "Let's sign who left WWE this week and make them a main eventer! " and they thought the star power of the ex WWE guy would be enough to help them gain steam nationally. They also signed tons of worthless guys WWE didn't want for good reason who just took up space on TNA's roster. In reality all this strategy did was sort of screwed over their homegrown stars like AJ Styles and Samoa Joe. God especially Joe when he jobbed out to Kurt Angle in Angle's first match abruptly ending Joe's undefeated run, basically saying any top WWE guy can beat a top TNA guy. They should not have rushed that match in particular. They did the same thing years later with Rob Van Dam beating AJ Styles for the title quickly. I'm sure that it was every Fan's dream up to that point to see Kurt Angle go up against Samoa Joe, but I think that angle was just rushed from the get-go. I would have given Kurt at least maybe a few minutes before the dream match would have occurred. Give some more Joe at at least a few more months for his undefeated run, maybe a push for the world title before jobbing. Then you had guys like Tomko, who served as nothing more than Christian's goon in WWE and actually made him look more important. He was even over with fans in TNA I'd be lying if I didn't say some ex WWE guys worked well in TNA. Christian's first year was great because even though he won the title early on he was still pretty vulnerable and Raven was entertaining.
|
|
|
Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 16, 2017 9:46:52 GMT -5
I'm sure that it was every Fan's dream up to that point to see Kurt Angle go up against Samoa Joe, but I think that angle was just rushed from the get-go. I would have given Kurt at least maybe a few minutes before the dream match would have occurred. Give some more Joe at at least a few more months for his undefeated run, maybe a push for the world title before jobbing. Then you had guys like Tomko, who served as nothing more than Christian's goon in WWE and actually made him look more important. He was even over with fans in TNA I'd be lying if I didn't say some ex WWE guys worked well in TNA. Christian's first year was great because even though he won the title early on he was still pretty vulnerable and Raven was entertaining. Well yeah, some of htem worked out but for like every Christian you can probably name like 5 Val Venis's.
|
|
|
Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 16, 2017 13:43:46 GMT -5
My favorite MECW story was reading about their first (and only) event. Apparently they had been saying for weeks that this would be a "family friendly" promotion. And yet at the start of the show, Joel Gertner came out and did his usual double-entendre laden promo. And the main event was a triple threat ladder match with The Sandman and Sabu (and I can't remember the third for the life of me) They actually ran a bunch of shows, but that was the only one in the Northeast. Most were in Evansville, Indiana after that, and thus didn't get much coverage. Different MECW. We're talking about the scam run by John Collins in 2001. That MECW only had one actual show (and some pathetic "run-in invasions" of some 40-in-the-crowd indies right beforehand). The MECW you're referring to was owned by promoter Jason Daniel and ran in 2010, and is the spiritual successor to a THIRD company called MECW, run by Reno Riggins and Steve Doll circa 1999. Daniel bought their MECW name and their ring at some point, but has never had any connection to the John Collins promotion that we're referring to. Some sources, including a couple of Wikipedia pages, have tried to make all three MECWs the same promotion, but they weren't and never were.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 18:33:49 GMT -5
They actually ran a bunch of shows, but that was the only one in the Northeast. Most were in Evansville, Indiana after that, and thus didn't get much coverage. Different MECW. We're talking about the scam run by John Collins in 2001. That MECW only had one actual show (and some pathetic "run-in invasions" of some 40-in-the-crowd indies right beforehand). The MECW you're referring to was owned by promoter Jason Daniel and ran in 2010, and is the spiritual successor to a THIRD company called MECW, run by Reno Riggins and Steve Doll circa 1999. Daniel bought their MECW name and their ring at some point, but has never had any connection to the John Collins promotion that we're referring to. Some sources, including a couple of Wikipedia pages, have tried to make all three MECWs the same promotion, but they weren't and never were. I'm referring to the weekly shows at the Evansville Coliseum during the tail end of 2001 that Collins actually ran. I was there for a couple of them and met him. He had guys like Buff Bagwell, Curt Hennig and Tracy Smothers on the shows. This was during a period that Collins was "buying into" several independent promotions, and paid Shelby Adcock (Mike Samples had been booking) to take over the weekly shows at the Coliseum. They switched from being under what I think was called Kentuckiana Championship Wrestling to being MECW shows while Collins took over. It only lasted maybe three months before Collins got out (and may have sold it to Riggins and Doll at that point). Collins would later return under the name New Wave Championship Wrestling for a handful of shows around Indiana, before all of his trouble with the SEC put an end to that.
|
|