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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 13, 2017 12:05:57 GMT -5
Also, curious if there are any current examples out there.
What made me hunk of this is coming across a thread elsewhere about MECW. For those who don't know it's a company that had name talent and was hyped to heck in 2001. With WCW and ECW gone some even thought it might get the number two spot in American wrestling. It lasted one standalone show.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Aug 13, 2017 12:10:14 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Aug 13, 2017 12:18:40 GMT -5
Wrestle-1 Mutoh overestimated the fans who'd watch and had three shows at Sumo Hall booked in its first year and only got half filled on them. That and the disatrous deal with TNA leading to Sanada quitting nearly killed W1. They've recovered and are stable but it wasn't looking good for a while.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 13, 2017 12:25:54 GMT -5
TNA tried to expand into a national promotion without ever building up a base, a place they know they can always draw a paying crowd.
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Post by agent817 on Aug 13, 2017 12:52:30 GMT -5
TNA tried to expand into a national promotion without ever building up a base, a place they know they can always draw a paying crowd. Not to mention trying their damndest to compete with WWE, but they were never close to doing so. Hell, some, if not a lot, of the time they went far as to make jabs at WWE, but it clearly did not work for TNA. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 13, 2017 13:25:46 GMT -5
The WWA promotion that tried to succeed WCW. They were doing fine running the Australia shows and were getting some decent, if not exemplary press. Then they decided to try to do a huge show in the States with the likes of Randy Savage on board, and the whole thing imploded on itself and took the company with it. Also, curious if there are any current examples out there. What made me hunk of this is coming across a thread elsewhere about MECW. For those who don't know it's a company that had name talent and was hyped to heck in 2001. With WCW and ECW gone some even thought it might get the number two spot in American wrestling. It lasted one standalone show. It wasn't necessarily that they tried to grow too fast, it was more that they had a 100% con artist running things that was trying to take everybody for everything they had and lied his way through every statement he ever made. Most people knew MECW had no chance before they ever put on a show due to Collins. |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 13, 2017 13:41:04 GMT -5
The WWA promotion that tried to succeed WCW. They were doing fine running the Australia shows and were getting some decent, if not exemplary press. Then they decided to try to do a huge show in the States with the likes of Randy Savage on board, and the whole thing imploded on itself and took the company with it. Also, curious if there are any current examples out there. What made me hunk of this is coming across a thread elsewhere about MECW. For those who don't know it's a company that had name talent and was hyped to heck in 2001. With WCW and ECW gone some even thought it might get the number two spot in American wrestling. It lasted one standalone show. It wasn't necessarily that they tried to grow too fast, it was more that they had a 100% con artist running things that was trying to take everybody for everything they had and lied his way through every statement he ever made. Most people knew MECW had no chance before they ever put on a show due to Collins. Speaking of con artists it reminded me of a similar situation: officialfan.proboards.com/thread/371404?page=1 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 14:57:57 GMT -5
Arguably, MLW could have lasted longer had they not spent as much on talent and focused on building up a following in one specific venue/market. They ran shows in New York, Pennsylvania, and Florida before ultimately trying to focus on just Florida, but by that time it was on its way out. Lasted 10 shows.
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Post by mauled on Aug 13, 2017 15:39:28 GMT -5
TNA tried to expand into a national promotion without ever building up a base, a place they know they can always draw a paying crowd. That and changing the ring, one of the things that made them unique and they got rid of it 🙈 Well admittedly that the Orange Leeches doing but he was allowed to do it though |
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 13, 2017 15:46:26 GMT -5
TNA tried to expand into a national promotion without ever building up a base, a place they know they can always draw a paying crowd. That and changing the ring, one of the things that made them unique and they got rid of it 🙈 Well admittedly that the Orange Leeches doing but he was allowed to do it though Honestly, that feels like a lateral move. It was part of the identity, but it was also more difficult and dangerous to work in for most of the wrestlers. (I forget the specifics, but I recall it being said the ropes and mat near the ropes had less give due to the geometry of the ring.) It works for lucha purposes, or big 6 or man tags, but most wrestlers have far more experience with four sides, so it results in most of them not really being as equipped to use it to its full potential. |
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Post by eJm on Aug 13, 2017 15:56:30 GMT -5
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The end of that story lies now with some guy in the West Midlands who'll probably never do anything with it again.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2017 16:23:42 GMT -5
That and changing the ring, one of the things that made them unique and they got rid of it 🙈 Well admittedly that the Orange Leeches doing but he was allowed to do it though Honestly, that feels like a lateral move. It was part of the identity, but it was also more difficult and dangerous to work in for most of the wrestlers. (I forget the specifics, but I recall it being said the ropes and mat near the ropes had less give due to the geometry of the ring.) It works for lucha purposes, or big 6 or man tags, but most wrestlers have far more experience with four sides, so it results in most of them not really being as equipped to use it to its full potential. AJ Styles said while he was at first hesistant of them losing their identity with the six sided ring it became apparent for their bodies that was the right move. I believe he mentioned something like taking a tope rope belly to belly from Angle on the six sided ring and he said never again but he took the same move in a regular ring and he said it was like night and day on how much give you get in a regular ring |
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 13, 2017 20:37:17 GMT -5
Honestly, that feels like a lateral move. It was part of the identity, but it was also more difficult and dangerous to work in for most of the wrestlers. (I forget the specifics, but I recall it being said the ropes and mat near the ropes had less give due to the geometry of the ring.) It works for lucha purposes, or big 6 or man tags, but most wrestlers have far more experience with four sides, so it results in most of them not really being as equipped to use it to its full potential. AJ Styles said while he was at first hesistant of them losing their identity with the six sided ring it became apparent for their bodies that was the right move. I believe he mentioned something like taking a tope rope belly to belly from Angle on the six sided ring and he said never again but he took the same move in a regular ring and he said it was like night and day on how much give you get in a regular ring Has it ever been explained why the regular ring is easier to take bumps in? I've always thought peoples' problems with it were because of the confusion of doing spots with six corners and possibly that the ropes might not have as much give, having less length than a 4 sided ring's ropes, but never considered the actual base being the issue. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2017 20:46:06 GMT -5
AJ Styles said while he was at first hesistant of them losing their identity with the six sided ring it became apparent for their bodies that was the right move. I believe he mentioned something like taking a tope rope belly to belly from Angle on the six sided ring and he said never again but he took the same move in a regular ring and he said it was like night and day on how much give you get in a regular ring Has it ever been explained why the regular ring is easier to take bumps in? I've always thought peoples' problems with it were because of the confusion of doing spots with six corners and possibly that the ropes might not have as much give, having less length than a 4 sided ring's ropes, but never considered the actual base being the issue. A 6 sided ring is more "mechanical." You have to use a floor structure that would support the six sides so I guess more boards and beams and such. A regular ring while still hard doesn't need as much support and has more "give." |
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Aug 13, 2017 21:02:47 GMT -5
Jim Crockett Promotions.
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Post by The Blue Nova on Aug 13, 2017 21:07:38 GMT -5
Try state wrestling alliance
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 2:17:37 GMT -5
Try state wrestling alliance I tried it and didn't like it. |
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Aug 14, 2017 10:47:47 GMT -5
Blue Meanie and Jasmin''s 3pw. Like MLW, it was a good fed that filled in the void ECW left.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 14, 2017 10:50:29 GMT -5
Would Bill Watts' UWF count? A good promotion with a long history that tried too hard to play catch-up to the WWF and JCP, and wound up getting bought out by the latter when the money ran dry.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 14, 2017 11:04:24 GMT -5
Would ECW count? AJ Styles said while he was at first hesistant of them losing their identity with the six sided ring it became apparent for their bodies that was the right move. I believe he mentioned something like taking a tope rope belly to belly from Angle on the six sided ring and he said never again but he took the same move in a regular ring and he said it was like night and day on how much give you get in a regular ring Has it ever been explained why the regular ring is easier to take bumps in? I've always thought peoples' problems with it were because of the confusion of doing spots with six corners and possibly that the ropes might not have as much give, having less length than a 4 sided ring's ropes, but never considered the actual base being the issue. I believe the two added corners add Cross beams under the ring so there is less give. |
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