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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 15:15:52 GMT -5
A rumor but it's coming from someone at SI who appeared on another's podcast.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 24, 2017 15:21:11 GMT -5
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I mean, it's not like Cena was wrong, lmao. Corbin had his shot, stunk up the joint, and it was a wrap on his push. Not everybody deserves that main event slot.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Aug 24, 2017 15:21:36 GMT -5
A rumor but it's coming from someone at SI who appeared on another's podcast. In other words we can't confirm or deny the reason for his killed push. Brilliant reporting there from a dirt sheet podcast. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 15:21:42 GMT -5
That Cena IG post makes sense now.
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Post by TGM on Aug 24, 2017 15:22:03 GMT -5
Allegedly.
He did it on TV, twice.
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Post by Chestnutrice on Aug 24, 2017 15:22:10 GMT -5
I mean, he was right. I don't give a shit about the social media aspect, even though I think he did it the dumbest way. Anytime the guys use shoot terminology on twitter, it invites criticism from people who read up or are in the business.
Despite that, dude was having terrible matches and still can't cut a promo. He was fine on NXT, and probably would've been really good by now if they kept him there for an extra year.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Aug 24, 2017 15:28:15 GMT -5
Well, Cena's become kind of the tester guy for if someone deserves the Main Event Push or not. Getting his approval probably isn't a shoo in, as you still have to make Vince and the others at the top happy, but it definitely doesn't hurt at all.
Corbin failed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 15:31:24 GMT -5
... ... ... I mean, it's not like Cena was wrong, lmao. Corbin had his shot, stunk up the joint, and it was a wrap on his push. Not everybody deserves that main event slot. Jinder was given the ball and he's been hitting it out of the park the best he can. The past few months Jinder's upped everything about him. Corbin was given the ATGMBR win, the Ziggler feud, Kalisto feud, Swagger feud, an Elimination Chamber match with legends and great workers, Ambrose feud, Zayn feud, Nakamura feud and then this Cena feud and after all that he didn't rise up to the challenge. How many of these feuds do we even remember? What did he do to improve? Corbin has been a bust and we remember NXT Corbin for his greatness but main roster Corbin's been given lemons and he can't make lemonade. Cena had the right to bury him. If you give a man all these feuds and workers and shit still doesn't work out then it would have been blasphemous to have him beat John f***ing Cena. |
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Post by Acrtress Flavor Saver on Aug 24, 2017 15:42:47 GMT -5
... ... ... I mean, it's not like Cena was wrong, lmao. Corbin had his shot, stunk up the joint, and it was a wrap on his push. Not everybody deserves that main event slot. Jinder was given the ball and he's been hitting it out of the park the best he can. The past few months Jinder's upped everything about him. Corbin was given the ATGMBR win, the Ziggler feud, Kalisto feud, Swagger feud, an Elimination Chamber match with legends and great workers, Ambrose feud, Zayn feud, Nakamura feud and then this Cena feud and after all that he didn't rise up to the challenge. How many of these feuds do we even remember? What did he do to improve? Corbin has been a bust and we remember NXT Corbin for his greatness but main roster Corbin's been given lemons and he can't make lemonade. Cena had the right to bury him. If you give a man all these feuds and workers and shit still doesn't work out then it would have been blasphemous to have him beat John f***ing Cena. In the case of Jinder Mahal, it's VERY easy to "up everything" when you're at the bottom. As for Corbin, I don't think he's main event material. BUT, it's hard to say that he's been given all that much. Corbin won the Andre Battle Royal, but you know who else did? Cesaro and Mojo Rawley; Cesaro's been spinning his wheels forever and Mojo wasn't really getting pushed. Corbin feuded with Ziggler, Kalisto, Swagger, and Zayn when they were at their coldest, and actually lost the Zayn feud. I saw the Ambrose feud as more of a step down for Ambrose than a step up for Corbin. I won't say he's been buried. I'd say he's right where he belongs. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 24, 2017 15:43:22 GMT -5
... ... ... I mean, it's not like Cena was wrong, lmao. Corbin had his shot, stunk up the joint, and it was a wrap on his push. Not everybody deserves that main event slot. Jinder was given the ball and he's been hitting it out of the park the best he can. The past few months Jinder's upped everything about him. Corbin was given the ATGMBR win, the Ziggler feud, Kalisto feud, Swagger feud, an Elimination Chamber match with legends and great workers, Ambrose feud, Zayn feud, Nakamura feud and then this Cena feud and after all that he didn't rise up to the challenge. How many of these feuds do we even remember? What did he do to improve? Corbin has been a bust and we remember NXT Corbin for his greatness but main roster Corbin's been given lemons and he can't make lemonade. Cena had the right to bury him. If you give a man all these feuds and workers and shit still doesn't work out then it would have been blasphemous to have him beat John f***ing Cena. I want to defend Corbin but I can't because the facts are he's def been put in a position to look good but he's really done nothing memorable or shown enough improvement in any areas. Add in his social media stuff that even got under Cena skin and you are toast for the foreseeable future. People can bring up Jinder all they want but as said before the dude was brought back to be a good hand. He got himself in great shape, started getting TV time with Rusev, which leads to him getting that WM angle, and eventually the golden ticket which is the WWE title. He looks like a champ and is putting in the work to at least show he's not taking this opportunity for granted. |
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Aug 24, 2017 15:44:21 GMT -5
Local Man (Cena) Ruins Everything
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Post by Fade on Aug 24, 2017 15:48:31 GMT -5
I'm not a Baron Corbin fan. At all. I actually think he sucks other than multi-men matches...he can't deliver scripted dialogue. That being said, f***ing Cena and his power and opinion. The dude was high on Evan Bourne once and his careers skyrocketed. BC is kinda shitty but look at who's the WWE Champion, the bars low as f*** these days.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Aug 24, 2017 15:49:50 GMT -5
but but but I thought Cena didn't have any backstage pull? 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 15:51:31 GMT -5
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Post by Acrtress Flavor Saver on Aug 24, 2017 15:52:53 GMT -5
I'm not a Baron Corbin fan. At all. I actually think he sucks other than multi-men matches...he can't deliver scripted dialogue. That being said, f***ing Cena and his power and opinion. The dude was high on Evan Bourne once and his careers skyrocketed. BC is kinda shitty but look at who's the WWE Champion, the bars low as f*** these days. If you've ever stood within ten feet of Evan Bourne, you've been high on him. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 15:57:02 GMT -5
Jinder was given the ball and he's been hitting it out of the park the best he can. The past few months Jinder's upped everything about him. Corbin was given the ATGMBR win, the Ziggler feud, Kalisto feud, Swagger feud, an Elimination Chamber match with legends and great workers, Ambrose feud, Zayn feud, Nakamura feud and then this Cena feud and after all that he didn't rise up to the challenge. How many of these feuds do we even remember? What did he do to improve? Corbin has been a bust and we remember NXT Corbin for his greatness but main roster Corbin's been given lemons and he can't make lemonade. Cena had the right to bury him. If you give a man all these feuds and workers and shit still doesn't work out then it would have been blasphemous to have him beat John f***ing Cena. In the case of Jinder Mahal, it's VERY easy to "up everything" when you're at the bottom. As for Corbin, I don't think he's main event material. BUT, it's hard to say that he's been given all that much. Corbin won the Andre Battle Royal, but you know who else did? Cesaro and Mojo Rawley; Cesaro's been spinning his wheels forever and Mojo wasn't really getting pushed. Corbin feuded with Ziggler, Kalisto, Swagger, and Zayn when they were at their coldest, and actually lost the Zayn feud. I saw the Ambrose feud as more of a step down for Ambrose than a step up for Corbin. I won't say he's been buried. I'd say he's right where he belongs. Jinder's done more for his character in a few months than Corbin's done since he's joined the main roster. You can say it's due to Jinder "being at the bottom" as if Corbin wasn't bad all you want but it's all for a reason. Jinder's been working harder and it's showing. It's not Jinder's fault that he works harder and is putting his soul into what he's done compared to Corbin. And Cesaro and Mojo? Those 2 dudes did not get the type of opportunities that Corbin was given. When I mentioned the opportunities and feuds I mentioned numerous ones to show progress from one to the next, it's not as if if you get one you're set, it's continuous. You can't compare Corbin to these other 2 when they weren't given any of these same feuds, they just dropped off. You mentioned that Corbin feuded with Zayn, Ziggler and others when they were at their coldest but you didn't mention that Corbin beat Dean Ambrose, a man who rarely loses clean in a match on SDL. You didn't mention Corbin being in an Elimination Chamber match with Cena, Styles, Ambrose, Wyatt and Miz and Corbin being seen as a killer in that match who lost because he was outsmarted by a rollup. You didn't mention Corbin legit outsmarting and beating a heavily protected Shinsuke Nakamura during MITB let alone embarrassing the guy with a low blow to end a ppv. You're only picking out some portions where he mostly trashed dudes rather than the more important ones who, when you look at what they entail, are far more important. You're only mentioning the lower class to fit your narrative but as a whole, in kayfabe and in real life, Corbin's been given heavy opportunities. That's something Cesaro and Mojo have not done. Jinder was given the ball and he's been hitting it out of the park the best he can. The past few months Jinder's upped everything about him. Corbin was given the ATGMBR win, the Ziggler feud, Kalisto feud, Swagger feud, an Elimination Chamber match with legends and great workers, Ambrose feud, Zayn feud, Nakamura feud and then this Cena feud and after all that he didn't rise up to the challenge. How many of these feuds do we even remember? What did he do to improve? Corbin has been a bust and we remember NXT Corbin for his greatness but main roster Corbin's been given lemons and he can't make lemonade. Cena had the right to bury him. If you give a man all these feuds and workers and shit still doesn't work out then it would have been blasphemous to have him beat John f***ing Cena. I want to defend Corbin but I can't because the facts are he's def been put in a position to look good but he's really done nothing memorable or shown enough improvement in any areas. Add in his social media stuff that even got under Cena skin and you are toast for the foreseeable future. People can bring up Jinder all they want but as said before the dude was brought back to be a good hand. He got himself in great shape, started getting TV time with Rusev, which leads to him getting that WM angle, and eventually the golden ticket which is the WWE title. He looks like a champ and is putting in the work to at least show he's not taking this opportunity for granted. Jinder been killing it while Corbin hasn't. It's pretty noticeable especially when you hear podcasts with legends. I was listening to Austin's the other day and when he reviewed the Nakamura/Mahal match he said "nah you shouldn't take the belt off of Jinder right now." If Jinder was as bad as people say he is we really wouldn't be hearing someone like Austin saying that. |
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Aug 24, 2017 16:00:21 GMT -5
I'm not a Baron Corbin fan. At all. I actually think he sucks other than multi-men matches...he can't deliver scripted dialogue. That being said, f***ing Cena and his power and opinion. The dude was high on Evan Bourne once and his careers skyrocketed. BC is kinda shitty but look at who's the WWE Champion, the bars low as f*** these days. If you've ever stood within ten feet of Evan Bourne, you've been high on him. Ha! On a for real note, Cena isn't wrong. I've been exposed to a ton of Corbin through Breaking Ground, NXT, and his main roster work. I have never, ever seen why ANYONE thinks Corbin has "it". He's never worked a good match, despite being given PLENTY of great opponents to work with, and even match types many guys will NEVER get to work to try to shine. Yet he turns up nothing but duds. "Passable" is a high compliment for one of his matches. The dude can't deliver a promo to save his life. And no, his stuff on the post show wasn't that good. It was still sub-par, just not quite as bad as his stuff on the shows. He's absolutely dreadful no matter what, largely because... He is devoid of any genuine character or personality. He couldn't even be compelling or tolerable when talking as himself on Breaking Ground. He tries to talk and carry himself with this total put-on attitude. He reminds me of those guys in high school who wanted everyone to believe they were hard-boiled, tormented street kids, but really just grew up in a boring suburban life. But way older, so it's just pathetic. He's the guy people say "You haven't changed a bit!" to at the high school reunion, and not in a positive way. And his look...Jesus f***ing Christ, I don't even know where to start. Actually, yes I do: SHAVE YOUR f***ING HEAD. YOU HAVE LOST THE BATTLE. YOU LOOK LIKE THE CREEPY UNCLE NO ONE INVITES TO THE BARBEQUE BECAUSE HE HITS ON HIS COUSINS. Seriously. It's bad. And then there is the rest of the wardrobe. The stupid patchwork pants. Not only are several other guys wearing these kinds of pants these days (Braun, couple Sanity guys, someone else who is escaping me) but they are butt-ass ugly on EVERYONE. And the pointless, non-matching vest is doing them no favors. Then cap it off with his latest t-shirt featuring some redneck-ass wolf shit. The dude...the dude is just plain shit. That's just my opinion. Not trying to insult anyone who may be a fan. I just can't see it. EDIT: Bray Wyatt is the other member of the Patchy Pants Club that I was thinking of. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 24, 2017 16:09:01 GMT -5
I want to defend Corbin but I can't because the facts are he's def been put in a position to look good but he's really done nothing memorable or shown enough improvement in any areas. Add in his social media stuff that even got under Cena skin and you are toast for the foreseeable future. People can bring up Jinder all they want but as said before the dude was brought back to be a good hand. He got himself in great shape, started getting TV time with Rusev, which leads to him getting that WM angle, and eventually the golden ticket which is the WWE title. He looks like a champ and is putting in the work to at least show he's not taking this opportunity for granted. Jinder been killing it while Corbin hasn't. It's pretty noticeable especially when you hear podcasts with legends. I was listening to Austin's the other day and when he reviewed the Nakamura/Mahal match he said "nah you shouldn't take the belt off of Jinder right now." If Jinder was as bad as people say he is we really wouldn't be hearing someone like Austin saying that. That's still a case of some people being salty tho because dude went from the bottom to the top "without earning it" or whatever their specific level of measurement is. I can't fault a dude who took the ball and went out there and did what he needed to. In regards to Corbin, this could be the best thing to happen to him. Tag team division can always use bodies or he could be paired with someone as their muscle for the time being. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 24, 2017 16:10:38 GMT -5
If this is true, I do think Corbin isn't a guy who should be in the main event but I also don't think he needed to be murdered f***ing dead and look like a complete loser by the guy killing his push. "Hey, Corbin isn't ready for this" is one thing, but "Hey, Corbin isn't ready for this, so I should be involved in shenanigans to make him lose his title shot in the shittiest possible way and six days later make him look like a fool by eating it to one AA on a big four PPV". That's some f***ing Hogan-level credibility killing bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2017 16:13:41 GMT -5
Jinder been killing it while Corbin hasn't. It's pretty noticeable especially when you hear podcasts with legends. I was listening to Austin's the other day and when he reviewed the Nakamura/Mahal match he said "nah you shouldn't take the belt off of Jinder right now." If Jinder was as bad as people say he is we really wouldn't be hearing someone like Austin saying that. That's still a case of some people being salty tho because dude went from the bottom to the top "without earning it" or whatever their specific level of measurement is. I can't fault a dude who took the ball and went out there and did what he needed to. In regards to Corbin, this could be the best thing to happen to him. Tag team division can always use bodies or he could be paired with someone as their muscle for the time being. I say put Corbin in a tag team or keep him as an upper midcarder for maybe 2-3 years. The guy's about to be 33, he's still young and given what he's done so far if you let him build himself up for some years, find himself, he'll be good. |
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