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Post by héad.casé on Sept 8, 2017 16:28:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 16:38:01 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Sept 8, 2017 16:41:03 GMT -5
This is the ratings they were getting during their time on FSN in 04.
Everyone beats them in it, ROH does, NJPW on AXS does, the only one that don't is LU
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Post by eJm on Sept 8, 2017 16:41:21 GMT -5
Imagine going from 1.5m viewers to 220,000 in the space of 6 years and STILL being allowed to air.
Imagine being the alleged number two promotion and THAT'S your reality.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 8, 2017 16:56:09 GMT -5
Wait so their attempt to grab attention by exploiting Rosemary's suffering didn't get them a huge ratings pop, and they actually posted a huge decline in the process?  |
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Post by Sigma: Current SRW Champ! on Sept 8, 2017 17:02:53 GMT -5
Wait so their attempt to grab attention by exploiting Rosemary's suffering didn't get them a huge ratings pop, and they actually posted a huge decline in the process? You could say that they didn't get a POP on POP! |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Sept 8, 2017 17:09:40 GMT -5
Imagine going from 1.5m viewers to 220,000 in the space of 6 years and STILL being allowed to air. Imagine being the alleged number two promotion and THAT'S your reality. It's debatable as to whether or not GFW is the #4. I hear more about Lucha Underground, ROH and WWE buzz-wise. Not even counting NJPW crossing over. |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 8, 2017 17:18:25 GMT -5
This is the ratings they were getting during their time on FSN in 04. I miss the Fox Box they had at the top of the screen that counted down the time limit. That was a cool little feature that they should have kept. |
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Post by saintpat on Sept 8, 2017 17:28:40 GMT -5
Imagine going from 1.5m viewers to 220,000 in the space of 6 years and STILL being allowed to air. Imagine being the alleged number two promotion and THAT'S your reality. I honestly think ROH has long since passed TNA as the No. 2 promotion: * More contracted wrestlers on roster (as opposed to pay per appearance) * Live shows (which draw more than any TNA live show in memory) * Charges for TV tapings and draws full, hot crowds * More financial backing from Sinclair than TNA gets from Anthem (speculative, but since they are able to compete by offering deals to select talent on a more competitive basis than TNA, have a budget for putting on live shows, etc., it seems like this is the case) * More fans, quite frankly No way to know exactly how many people watch ROH on a weekly basis since it's on SInclair local markets at different times, but surely it's outdrawing TNA for viewership. Or at least competitive. Not to mention just better roster, better booking, better ... everything. |
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Post by eJm on Sept 8, 2017 17:31:58 GMT -5
Imagine going from 1.5m viewers to 220,000 in the space of 6 years and STILL being allowed to air. Imagine being the alleged number two promotion and THAT'S your reality. I honestly think ROH has long since passed TNA as the No. 2 promotion: * More contracted wrestlers on roster (as opposed to pay per appearance) * Live shows (which draw more than any TNA live show in memory) * Charges for TV tapings and draws full, hot crowds * More financial backing from Sinclair than TNA gets from Anthem (speculative, but since they are able to compete by offering deals to select talent on a more competitive basis than TNA, have a budget for putting on live shows, etc., it seems like this is the case) * More fans, quite frankly No way to know exactly how many people watch ROH on a weekly basis since it's on SInclair local markets at different times, but surely it's outdrawing TNA for viewership. Or at least competitive. Not to mention just better roster, better booking, better ... everything. Oh, they probably doing all those and more. Only thing I don't know about is TV ratings but since they're in syndication that stuff matters less? Not sure. But THEY probably think they're the number two promotion so that's all that matters to them. Hell, when ROH was in debt and needed a buyer, they were probably in a better position than TNA was. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Sept 8, 2017 17:33:00 GMT -5
Dixie took the number two company and brought it to this point.
Anthem should just cut their losses and sell this steaming pile of shit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 18:15:37 GMT -5
Imagine going from 1.5m viewers to 220,000 in the space of 6 years and STILL being allowed to air. Imagine being the alleged number two promotion and THAT'S your reality. It's debatable as to whether or not GFW is the #4. I hear more about Lucha Underground, ROH and WWE buzz-wise. Not even counting NJPW crossing over. I'd consider them above Lucha Underground, but that says more about my perception of LU than it does TNA's standing. |
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Sept 8, 2017 18:17:52 GMT -5
Matt Sydal can now claim that anyone fighting by themselves in the dark is copying him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 18:26:10 GMT -5
they're no bigger than the Fox Sports Net days
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Post by saintpat on Sept 8, 2017 19:53:54 GMT -5
I honestly think ROH has long since passed TNA as the No. 2 promotion: * More contracted wrestlers on roster (as opposed to pay per appearance) * Live shows (which draw more than any TNA live show in memory) * Charges for TV tapings and draws full, hot crowds * More financial backing from Sinclair than TNA gets from Anthem (speculative, but since they are able to compete by offering deals to select talent on a more competitive basis than TNA, have a budget for putting on live shows, etc., it seems like this is the case) * More fans, quite frankly No way to know exactly how many people watch ROH on a weekly basis since it's on SInclair local markets at different times, but surely it's outdrawing TNA for viewership. Or at least competitive. Not to mention just better roster, better booking, better ... everything. Oh, they probably doing all those and more. Only thing I don't know about is TV ratings but since they're in syndication that stuff matters less? Not sure. But THEY probably think they're the number two promotion so that's all that matters to them. Hell, when ROH was in debt and needed a buyer, they were probably in a better position than TNA was. I'm biased, because I'm a proud ROH mark, but I think the evidence points to TNA/GFW/WTF having abdicated its No. 2 position. And I didn't even mention merch. ROH actually has some, including a cut of some Bullet Club stuff. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 20:00:31 GMT -5
Oh, they probably doing all those and more. Only thing I don't know about is TV ratings but since they're in syndication that stuff matters less? Not sure. But THEY probably think they're the number two promotion so that's all that matters to them. Hell, when ROH was in debt and needed a buyer, they were probably in a better position than TNA was. I'm biased, because I'm a proud ROH mark, but I think the evidence points to TNA/GFW/WTF having abdicated its No. 2 position. And I didn't even mention merch. ROH actually has some, including a cut of some Bullet Club stuff. The only people who still believe TNA is #2 are deluding themselves. Realistically, the only reason why Pop will keep them is as long as they pay up, because nobody will give the company a contract at any point. Even though the person responsible for burning through two networks is gone, it's not like the new regime has offered something different in a positive way. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 20:08:59 GMT -5
Yeah, TNFW has given up it's status as #2 a long time ago. When was the last time that they even had any positive buzz? There's so much stigma and damage that needs to be undone before they could ever be relevant again that Anthem or any potential buyers would be better off starting their own company.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 8, 2017 23:00:47 GMT -5
Who do they even have left for fans to tune in for? The Hardys and Drew Galloway left. Doesn't that leave only Bobby Lashley as a draw for them, or has he left as well?
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Post by Rave on Sept 9, 2017 4:11:26 GMT -5
Dixie took the number two company and brought it to this point. So would you say she made it number two? ...I'll show myself out... |
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Sept 9, 2017 6:40:28 GMT -5
I'm in considerable debt and more people pay attention to me than GFWTNA
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