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Post by héad.casé on Sept 14, 2017 4:49:23 GMT -5
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Post by wankah on Sept 14, 2017 5:37:10 GMT -5
Eric "I don't recall" Bischoff. The world's greatest source for stories that leave the ending open for the audience.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Sept 14, 2017 6:00:56 GMT -5
What did Gene think?
He didn't give a rats ass.. as long as he got his monies! 🤑
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Post by auph10imitated on Sept 14, 2017 10:21:21 GMT -5
I have no idea how big KISS is, but would they have been a big enough mainstream band to pull this off?
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Sept 14, 2017 10:44:37 GMT -5
I have no idea how big KISS is, but would they have been a big enough mainstream band to pull this off? Are you serious? KISS was huge around that time, having reunited the original lineup in 1997. They're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. |
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Post by auph10imitated on Sept 14, 2017 11:00:42 GMT -5
I'm from the UK (Did they have a fan base here?) and I was 16 at the time and its not my preference in music at all, I know who they are but I couldn't tell you how big they were especially at that time. I couldn't tell you one song they sang  |
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Post by saintpat on Sept 14, 2017 11:18:26 GMT -5
I have no idea how big KISS is, but would they have been a big enough mainstream band to pull this off? Are you serious? KISS was huge around that time, having reunited the original lineup in 1997. They're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yes, they had quite a revival with the band reuniting and were red hot at the time. They'd have drawn a big crowd if they'd just have held a concert with no wrestling. |
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Post by wgdj on Sept 14, 2017 11:56:25 GMT -5
Are you serious? KISS was huge around that time, having reunited the original lineup in 1997. They're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yes, they had quite a revival with the band reuniting and were red hot at the time. They'd have drawn a big crowd if they'd just have held a concert with no wrestling. In 1999? Nah. The Reunion Tour did well, but the Psycho Circus Tour had its second leg cancelled. Even the Farewell Tour had an underwhelming performance in North America. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 14:33:51 GMT -5
I have no idea how big KISS is, but would they have been a big enough mainstream band to pull this off? They are one of the most famous rock bands of all time. You want to talk about if they were mainstream or not? When I was a little kid I had Kiss slides for my view master before I had ever heard a note of their music. However as Nitro showed, people didn't give a shit about having them perform at a wrestling show. In fact, pretty much every musical performance at a wrestling show has failed to get the crowd amped up like they would be at one of that artist's actual concerts. |
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Sept 14, 2017 14:45:16 GMT -5
While they would have been a lot of wrestling fans and a lot of Kiss fans, I imagine the Venn diagram of somebody been fans of both is a lot smaller for something to appeal to them
Honestly 9 times out of 10 when there is a musical act on a wrestling show I tend to do something else while they perform (it would take a band like the Pixies for me to sit and watch)
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Post by Reflecto on Sept 14, 2017 14:54:35 GMT -5
While they would have been a lot of wrestling fans and a lot of Kiss fans, I imagine the Venn diagram of somebody been fans of both is a lot smaller for something to appeal to them Honestly 9 times out of 10 when there is a musical act on a wrestling show I tend to do something else while they perform (it would take a band like the Pixies for me to sit and watch) I don't know- the Venn diagram of "wrestling fans" and "KISS fans" is pretty big, especially for 1999 with older fans like WCW had. It still would have been a mistake, though, for that "wrestling fans and musical acts don't tend to mesh." |
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Post by wildojinx on Sept 14, 2017 18:40:10 GMT -5
I heard it was going to end with the Kiss demon throwing Vampiro and ICP into a vat of "holy water". All of a sudden, Paul Bearer being encased in concrete at Great American Bash,,well, it's still bad, but it wouldnt be the worse ending to a wrestling ppv if that had gone off as planned.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Sept 14, 2017 19:04:39 GMT -5
Yes, they had quite a revival with the band reuniting and were red hot at the time. They'd have drawn a big crowd if they'd just have held a concert with no wrestling. In 1999? Nah. The Reunion Tour did well, but the Psycho Circus Tour had its second leg cancelled. Even the Farewell Tour had an underwhelming performance in North America. Correct. If it was 1997, it would be a different story, but by 1999 a lot of the shine had come off the (Black) Diamond. |
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Sept 14, 2017 20:48:35 GMT -5
PPVs at the Sturgis bike rally, another one proposed to take place during a KISS concert. Gotta love Bischoff having his employers underwrite all of his adolescent interests. I'm surprised he didn't propose a WCW version of Shotgun Saturday Night taking place at the Gold Club in Atlanta.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Sept 14, 2017 20:49:14 GMT -5
In 1999? Nah. The Reunion Tour did well, but the Psycho Circus Tour had its second leg cancelled. Even the Farewell Tour had an underwhelming performance in North America. Correct. If it was 1997, it would be a different story, but by 1999 a lot of the shine had come off the (Black) Diamond. The same could be said about WCW at this point. |
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Post by sfvega on Sept 14, 2017 21:46:02 GMT -5
PPVs at the Sturgis bike rally, another one proposed to take place during a KISS concert. Gotta love Bischoff having his employers underwrite all of his adolescent interests. I'm surprised he didn't propose a WCW version of Shotgun Saturday Night taking place at the Gold Club in Atlanta. Honestly, this is a way better idea than Hog Wild. KISS itself would probably draw way better than WCW at that point, which is a plus. Hog Wild took wrestling at the peak of it's drawing ability and put it in front of an audience that probably overlapped with theirs, and sunk the entire gate to $0. They are at least outside the box ideas. They are completely geared toward him, you are right. But I can say that I'd really like to see promoters actually try and be different like he did sometimes. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 6:04:36 GMT -5
I was a huge wrestling fan, but no way am I spending $35 for a show on NYE.
Not when me and the Mrs. got a babysitter and we go out for the night! Woohoo!
(BTW, we were driving around when 12 o'clock hit. No power went out. So I told her Y2K was a myth.)
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Post by auph10imitated on Sept 15, 2017 8:41:25 GMT -5
I have no idea how big KISS is, but would they have been a big enough mainstream band to pull this off? They are one of the most famous rock bands of all time. You want to talk about if they were mainstream or not? When I was a little kid I had Kiss slides for my view master before I had ever heard a note of their music. However as Nitro showed, people didn't give a shit about having them perform at a wrestling show. In fact, pretty much every musical performance at a wrestling show has failed to get the crowd amped up like they would be at one of that artist's actual concerts. I meant mainstream enough in 1999, I get they are one of the biggest bands of all time, but so were The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Queen, Abba, Gun's N Roses etc it doesnt mean they are mainstream enough out of their era for this idea to work. Which is why I wondered if they were big enough to do something like this 20 years after they were actually huge. The idea on paper is actually quite a good idea, but I think it would suit a multi artist concert + wrestling, rather than 1 band + wrestling. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 15, 2017 9:20:28 GMT -5
What did Gene think? He didn't give a rats ass.. as long as he got his monies! 🤑 Pretty much. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 12:05:45 GMT -5
A NYE's ppv is a terrible idea from purely a scheduling standpoint.
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