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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 23:46:06 GMT -5
His attitude, mannerisms, speech, man he's perfect. Just the little things he does annoys you. You can even look in the Orton match and see that he's got his character down well. I'm so glad he's turned.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 24, 2017 23:55:18 GMT -5
Dude’s f***ing great right now. Didn’t know he had this in him, but it’s the best thing that’s happened to him in ages.
(Like, I’m wearing his merch shirt right this second and even I want to punch his face in for being an annoying dickhead)
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Oct 24, 2017 23:57:11 GMT -5
(legit question let's avoid the joke please)
Has he ever worked as a heel as Generico? And I mean full heel, not just heel due to association.
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Oct 25, 2017 1:58:24 GMT -5
(legit question let's avoid the joke please) Has he ever worked as a heel as Generico? And I mean full heel, not just heel due to association. Pretty sure he has never been a heel. I can't remember him ever working heel. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 1:59:45 GMT -5
Sure is. I wanna deck him.
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Post by saneiac on Oct 25, 2017 4:44:22 GMT -5
When he turned, I thought the only way it could work is if they make him into very early Kurt Angle, where he constantly insults everybody and doesn't even realize it. And with comments like this one to Daniel Bryan: "Yes, there are some similarities. Yes, we're both gifted in ring performers. Well, I still am.", it looks like that's the way they're going.
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Post by Juice on Oct 25, 2017 7:19:06 GMT -5
Everyone says that he takes getting used to and people don't like him at first. Like he is a genuinely nice but overzealous person who is annoying. In shoots and stuff even KO on Jericho.
This I think is the classic actual personality turned to 11 trope.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 25, 2017 9:04:34 GMT -5
Instead of going the typical route of toning down his entrance, music and mannerisms, they've gone the complete opposite route. He goes way over the top with it and it's amazingly smug.  |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 25, 2017 9:08:00 GMT -5
Who'd have thought that a guy who spent most of his career under a mask pretending not to speak english would turn out to be one of the better at portraying a character?
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Post by fw91 on Oct 25, 2017 9:21:50 GMT -5
Just hope they don't give him a more heelish theme. His current one actually still fits the new character very well
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Oct 25, 2017 9:34:32 GMT -5
"Yeah, they took Generico's mask off and turned him heel. AND IT IS AWESOME!"
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Post by freeze Austin on Oct 25, 2017 9:34:39 GMT -5
Sami's great at this pro wrestling thing in general. I'd like to see what he could become if he ever got one of those "ride or die" pushes where the office didn't lose confidence or interest in him and he was consistently booked relatively strong, even with a mid-card title.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 25, 2017 10:40:02 GMT -5
Who'd have thought that a guy who spent most of his career under a mask pretending not to speak english would turn out to be one of the better at portraying a character? Well the one thing i've noticed for people who work under a mask they work very well with their body language since you can't really show emotion with your face. For event examples Cien Almas and even Alberto Del Rio had very good language and facial expressions to match For a guy like Sami who all his friends says he gets taken used to because he's overzealous, this is just essentially him turning it up to 11 and letting it flow. He plays the smug annoying asshole very well and he has all the mannerisms to make it work |
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Post by Lupin the Third on Oct 25, 2017 10:48:58 GMT -5
(legit question let's avoid the joke please) Has he ever worked as a heel as Generico? And I mean full heel, not just heel due to association. Real answer: I don't think he's ever been a heel before now. I had to look it up myself, as I was curious, too. Joke/Kayfabe answer: Generico's gotta be happy that his friends are getting along. The holiday get togethers were getting awkward. Well, even more awkward, what with them being at the orphanage. |
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Post by Lupin the Third on Oct 25, 2017 10:51:34 GMT -5
As I said last night in the Smackdown thread, I love Sami. He's my no. 1 guy right now. I didn't think there was any way they could make me love him more.
And I was wrong.
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Post by Powerline on Oct 25, 2017 10:58:57 GMT -5
I'm not surprised at all. I knew the second they turned him it was gonna be great. When you're as talented as Sami is, him knowing what it takes to create a great heel and really drive it home shouldn't be a surprise (although, yes, in this day and age a lot of wrestlers WAY miss the mark and just have a shallow character that sucks...Big Cass...). I couldn't understand why people were mad they turned him. The alternative was floundering in midcard irrelevancy.
And for people that think "the biggest babyface in the company" needs that great heel run (like Cena, like Austin, like The Rock, like HBK, what many people claim Roman is missing, what many people claimed Bret was missing before he won the belt, etc.), I mean, here ya go!!! I'm not saying Zayn will make it to their level (he's certainly got the talent to do it, but I'm not in Vince/Steph/Hunter/creative's heads nor do I have the grapefruits to make such a longshot bet), nor am I saying that he'll go right from this to being the new Seth Rollins or Daniel Bryan. But I think he realizes that this heel run could be that boost that puts him near/at the top and keeps him there until he steps away, and he's going balls out for it, as he should.
I still don't get how people thought this was going to be bad unless you either didn't have that much faith in Zayn as a performer to make it work or you were still holding out hope in 2017 that Vince would have that epiphany we've all been waiting the lifetime of the IWC for and go completely in favor of what the internet audience wants.
It also helps he's actually getting heel reactions and isn't trying to pop the crowd w/o it being a setup, unlike certain "great heels" (Miz's current run, Jericho's "list" and catchphrases).
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Post by Milkman Norm on Oct 25, 2017 11:05:18 GMT -5
(legit question let's avoid the joke please) Has he ever worked as a heel as Generico? And I mean full heel, not just heel due to association. As a shoot him heeling on the joke would be a great way to get more heat. At least with a certain part of the fan base. |
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Oct 25, 2017 11:17:13 GMT -5
Instead of going the typical route of toning down his entrance, music and mannerisms, they've gone the complete opposite route. He goes way over the top with it and it's amazingly smug. I adore this so much. It's like what they did with the Bo Dallas heel turn at first, taken to an entirely different atmosphere. Sami's just tremendous. |
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Post by thirteen3 on Oct 25, 2017 11:25:53 GMT -5
Of course he's a good heel, he's a fan of Ska music. I've never met a Ska fan who wasn't a prick in someway. {Spoiler}
And no, for the record I don't hate Ska myself nor Do I have a grudge against it's people who like it in general. But, the people who REALLY like it? yeesh I don't know what it is about his upbeat sounding music that attracts such toxic assholes. Though I like Heavy metal music, so who the hell am I to judge? |
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Post by hossfan on Oct 25, 2017 11:36:03 GMT -5
The way he was fidgeting while waiting for Orton to come out made me want to slap him.
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