Meltzer: UK crowd didn't know who Pete Dunne was

[ben:friendship frog]

..and only popped because he's the UK Champion.


I was talking about this in the Owens/Zayn thread but this stupidity needs to be heard.

youtu.be/JlQTe7XBh4M

[Rican]

Lol they clearly started cheering when the music hit.

[Deleted]

That's absolute bollocks, there's an obvious pop when his music hits.

[ISO Mid Thigh Pull]

Big Daddy gets weird when he doesn't nap

[Deleted]

I wish this were true for me.

[lionheart21]

He's a member of British Strong Style, he's basically dominated the UK scene with them for the past year, and he's wrestled on the UK scene since 2007. Just a hunch, but I think they may have heard of him.

[Deleted]

It's kind of amazing how much wrestling fans put Dave Meltzer on such a high pedestal.

Wrestling Fan 1: "I think Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi at the AJPW 26th Anniversary show is a better match then CM Punk vs. John Cena for the #1 contendership at Wrestlemania on Raw."

Wrestling Fan 2: "Well I disagree with you!"

Wrestling Fan 1: "Yeah well Dave Meltzer gave Misawa vs. Kobashi a better rating therefore it's a better match."

Wrestling Fan 2: "Yeah well Dave Meltzer is a f***ing piece of shit and I once vandalized his Wikipedia page to replace the word matches with cocksucks because I hate how everyone talks about Meltzer."

Wrestling Fan 1: "Yeah well you are a stupid anti smark IWC poster who probably masturbates to Goldberg & Kevin Nash matches."

Wrestling Fan 2: "Better then those indie vanilla fanboy midgets Young Bucks. Go have a circle jerk bukkake party together with Meltzer at The Tokyo Dome."

Dave Meltzer: "The f*** did I do to get this much scorn and worship?"

Like shit a poster at FAN could have the same opinion that the crowd didn't know who Dunne is and wouldn't receive such projected scorn and attention.

[eJm]

There are things you could genuinely say about Meltzer that are criticisms of his work and how he conducts business.

This feels not so much as a stretch as a marathon. Like, I get the view but...misunderstanding a crowd doesn’t seem like something to tear into him for when there are people who thought Jinder was a great champ because Styles got a massive cheer when he beat him.

[ben:friendship frog]

Nov 9, 2017 17:08:31 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

It's kind of amazing how much wrestling fans put Dave Meltzer on such a high pedestal.

Wrestling Fan 1: "I think Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi at the AJPW 26th Anniversary show is a better match then CM Punk vs. John Cena for the #1 contendership at Wrestlemania on Raw."

Wrestling Fan 2: "Well I disagree with you!"

Wrestling Fan 1: "Yeah well Dave Meltzer gave Misawa vs. Kobashi a better rating therefore it's a better match."

Wrestling Fan 2: "Yeah well Dave Meltzer is a f***ing piece of shit and I once vandalized his Wikipedia page to replace the word matches with cocksucks because I hate how everyone talks about Meltzer."

Wrestling Fan 1: "Yeah well you are a stupid anti smark IWC poster who probably masturbates to Goldberg & Kevin Nash matches."

Wrestling Fan 2: "Better then those indie vanilla fanboy midgets Young Bucks. Go have a circle jerk bukkake party together with Meltzer at The Tokyo Dome."

Dave Meltzer: "The f*** did I do to get this much scorn and worship?"

Like shit a poster at FAN could have the same opinion that the crowd didn't know who Dunne is and wouldn't receive such projected scorn and attention.

The average FAN poster doesn't have a podcast and charge people for their 'inside knowledge'.

[Mister Pigwell]

Well that's just silly.

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Even if it were true, which it obviously isn't since they popped huge when his music hit, how the hell would Meltzer know that? Did he interview every single person in that arena?

[ben:friendship frog]

Nov 9, 2017 17:12:38 GMT -5 eJm said:

There are things you could genuinely say about Meltzer that are criticisms of his work and how he conducts business.

This feels not so much as a stretch as a marathon. Like, I get the view but...misunderstanding a crowd doesn’t seem like something to tear into him for when there are people here who thought Jinder was a great champ because Styles got a massive cheer when he beat him.

I just find it more hilarious how he interrupts Alvarez to 'correct' him about the pop when he's the one who's wrong. I don't really have an opinion on Meltzer one way or the other, but there's something very amusing about how matter of fact he states it.

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Nov 9, 2017 17:13:13 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

Nov 9, 2017 17:08:31 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

It's kind of amazing how much wrestling fans put Dave Meltzer on such a high pedestal.

Like shit a poster at FAN could have the same opinion that the crowd didn't know who Dunne is and wouldn't receive such projected scorn and attention.

The average FAN poster doesn't have a podcast and charge people for their 'inside knowledge'.

Yeah but it's an opinion not reporting. Silly opinion considering there is clearly HD video of the crowd popping the moment his music hit. But once again he's a reporter where fans really should put the pedestal on him, opinions second.

[A Platypus Rave]

Nov 9, 2017 17:13:51 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

Well that's just silly.

Yeah... this isn't even really up for debate, the crowd popped when his music hit.

If they didn't know who he was they must have REALLY loved that song.

Nov 9, 2017 17:23:10 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

Nov 9, 2017 17:13:13 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

The average FAN poster doesn't have a podcast and charge people for their 'inside knowledge'.

Yeah but it's an opinion not reporting. Silly opinion considering there is clearly HD video of the crowd popping the moment his music hit. But once again he's a reporter where fans really should put the pedestal on him, opinions second.

this isn't even an opinion though.

it's a blatant misrepresentation of facts.

[Tom S]

I was there, this is incorrect, approx 3/4 of the people knew him.

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Nov 9, 2017 17:25:07 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

Nov 9, 2017 17:13:51 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

Well that's just silly.

Yeah... this isn't even really up for debate, the crowd popped when his music hit.

If they didn't know who he was they must have REALLY loved that song.

Nov 9, 2017 17:23:10 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

Yeah but it's an opinion not reporting. Silly opinion considering there is clearly HD video of the crowd popping the moment his music hit. But once again he's a reporter where fans really should put the pedestal on him, opinions second.

this isn't even an opinion though.

it's a blatant misrepresentation of facts.

Still it's a minor mistake on a live podcast where Meltzer stammers more than Matt Morgan. It was a very forgettable segment where Enzo at this point cut the worst promo of his career with a really dead crowd. It was very long drawn out forgettable boring segment. I was grilling steaks during that promo and listened a chunk of it through the kitchen. For a guy who is required to watch all the wrestling and talk about it for a living, this is the moment where you zone out on the job like a important boring mandatory early morning meeting.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Nov 9, 2017 17:13:13 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

Nov 9, 2017 17:08:31 GMT -5 @supersweetbotch said:

It's kind of amazing how much wrestling fans put Dave Meltzer on such a high pedestal.

Like shit a poster at FAN could have the same opinion that the crowd didn't know who Dunne is and wouldn't receive such projected scorn and attention.

The average FAN poster doesn't have a podcast and charge people for their 'inside knowledge'.

The average FAN poster doesn't have insider knowledge and you can nest the words in as many sarcastic punctuation marks as you'd like but I don't think there's any denying that Dave is probably the best-connected person outside of the business.

[xCompackx]

I mean, it's tough to be a "reliable" journalist in a medium where plans can change at a moment's notice and then you have people claiming "Newz" as if the reported plans weren't legit at the time they were reported, but I'd definitely say Dave Meltzer is the best we've got. Not that others aren't right and not even that Meltzer himself is right all the time either, but we've only got a few decent inside guys.

That said, Pete Dunne definitely had a pop before he came out. Like, that's just wrong to claim otherwise.

[sshfof]

To play devils advocate here, while it wasn't the raw taping, a few people around me at the Birmingham house show wasn't aware of who he was. I would assume the attendance of a t.v. taping over here though would consist of a larger percentage of the hardcore fanbase so Meltzers quote wouldn't make much sense on paper.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

One of the most popular European Stars of recent memory, is champion in like three different European Promotions, has Match of the Year Candidate on NXT TakeOver with Bate, IMMEDIATE Pop when his music dropped...

Yeah sure, they didn't know who he was. Go back to screaming about Japan Meltz...