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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Nov 16, 2017 6:40:34 GMT -5
On paper< AJ VS Brock sounds like it could be a great 15 minute match that will make both guys look strong.
This is WWE though. Gotta keep Brock an indestrucable beast ready for The Big Dog.
AJ will have some decent offence at the start, eat a bunch of suplexes, fire back for a minute before a single F5 finishes it at around the 7 minute mark.
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Post by mizerable on Nov 16, 2017 10:09:22 GMT -5
3 minutes {Spoiler}
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Post by mcstoklasa on Nov 16, 2017 10:21:24 GMT -5
Biggest Brock mark on here and I think he’s had a pretty good 2017 after an underwhelming 2016. That being said if wwe think brock can just phone in a five minute squash against AJ STYLES, then I’ll be pissed. Stop wasting the potential of these matches!
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Post by mcstoklasa on Nov 16, 2017 10:23:16 GMT -5
I'm thinking 8-12, probably more specifically about 9. What the hell even happened to Brock's cardio? Guy was at least capable of having decent-length matches but it seems like the Taker matches used what last energy he had and now he has to take a breather after like five minutes. His cardio has always been shit. Stop.
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Nov 16, 2017 10:26:56 GMT -5
What if Brock goes full heel and spends a good ten minutes just killing AJ Styles, until someone shows up from the Raw side, someone who might deeply respect AJ, to try to stop the slaughter, setting things up for the Royal Rumble PPV? Perhaps someone Heyman has mentioned in the past and as recently as Monday night? You think she's reconsidering saying yes?
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Post by sunnytaker on Nov 16, 2017 10:53:41 GMT -5
8-12 just so the announcers can say "this match has gone over 10 minutes, is what Daniel bryan said true about brock's motor? is he going to run out of gas...oh F5 this one's over."
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Nov 16, 2017 13:58:34 GMT -5
In favour of AJ Styles. I would love Survivor Series to be the one night the Beast's powers are stripped. Goldberg last year AJ Styles this year Vacant next year
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Post by alexwrightspackage on Nov 16, 2017 14:18:31 GMT -5
Seems like a lot of matches at SS, no?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 14:20:15 GMT -5
In favour of AJ Styles. I would love Survivor Series to be the one night the Beast's powers are stripped. Goldberg last year AJ Styles this year Vacant next year The secret to Brock's power is he runs off Raw and SmackDown being in perfect harmony. If there's an imbalance he's doomed.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Nov 18, 2017 0:08:26 GMT -5
What if Brock goes full heel and spends a good ten minutes just killing AJ Styles, until someone shows up from the Raw side, someone who might deeply respect AJ, to try to stop the slaughter, setting things up for the Royal Rumble PPV? Perhaps someone Heyman has mentioned in the past and as recently as Monday night? Finn deserves better than Brock Ambrosing his way through another title match en route to the eventual Roman win that no one wants. Especially when Brock will be the first person to beat Demon Balor on the main roster. Someone else should get that accolade. But they're hellbent on sacrificing all of their top acts at the altar of Brock to sacrifice him at the altar of Roman, so....meh.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 1:02:53 GMT -5
This match ended yesterday.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Nov 18, 2017 1:08:19 GMT -5
Judging by the responses here, it occurs to me how much mystery/intrigue/suspense WWE can create by making one single change:
Moving Roman Reigns in a definitively non-Brock direction.
Everyone'll pee their pyjamas I tells ya'.
Well, until the sentiment shifts to "oh, well, that's still gonna happen at some point, isn't it?"
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Nov 18, 2017 1:35:06 GMT -5
AJ has really been (deservedly) booked as one of their absolute toughest dudes his whole run. With that said Cena took 19 suplexes and Joe lost in 6. Whatever happens, I expect Styles will go on to be over af and make exponentially more money than he ever has.
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Post by Kalmia on Nov 18, 2017 1:47:46 GMT -5
I hope it gets time. AJ was having excellent matches with big, strong dudes ten years ago. Now it's 2017 and AJ's a far better and smarter wrestler than he was then, so this match has all of the potential in the world if it gets time and Brock decides to play along.
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Post by clifford on Nov 18, 2017 4:22:02 GMT -5
Honestly they'll be able to hit everything they need to do in 9/10 minutes. Say what you want about current era Brock matches but they have zero rest holds and bullshit in them. Hit the spots and go home.
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Post by schma on Nov 18, 2017 5:44:55 GMT -5
I honestly don't know if Brock could go longer than ten minutes considering how red and sweaty he is two minutes in.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 18, 2017 8:58:20 GMT -5
Finn deserves better than Brock Ambrosing his way through another title match en route to the eventual Roman win that no one wants. Especially when Brock will be the first person to beat Demon Balor on the main roster. Someone else should get that accolade. But they're hellbent on sacrificing all of their top acts at the altar of Brock to sacrifice him at the altar of Roman, so....meh. Brock has put smaller guys over before; Eddie Guerrero famously beat him for the WWE title, while Benoit got him to tap out not once, but twice. Heyman's promos praising Balor suggest that Lesnar is open to either scenario with Finn as his opponent. If the firm plan is to get the red strap onto Roman at all costs, fine - but I can't help but think that Lesnar will make Balor look even better than he does on the road to losing to Reigns, especially if it may mean that Reigns will drop the title to Balor later on. If HQ is waffling on Reigns (as they should), perhaps we may see a bigger buildup to Lesnar/Balor, including Balor winning the Rumble. Of course, this will all depend on how, or even if, they decide to play out the rest of the feud with Bray Wyatt and introduce Sister Abigail in the bargain.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Nov 18, 2017 9:45:08 GMT -5
Finn deserves better than Brock Ambrosing his way through another title match en route to the eventual Roman win that no one wants. Especially when Brock will be the first person to beat Demon Balor on the main roster. Someone else should get that accolade. But they're hellbent on sacrificing all of their top acts at the altar of Brock to sacrifice him at the altar of Roman, so....meh. Brock has put smaller guys over before; Eddie Guerrero famously beat him for the WWE title, while Benoit got him to tap out not once, but twice. Heyman's promos praising Balor suggest that Lesnar is open to either scenario with Finn as his opponent. If the firm plan is to get the red strap onto Roman at all costs, fine - but I can't help but think that Lesnar will make Balor look even better than he does on the road to losing to Reigns, especially if it may mean that Reigns will drop the title to Balor later on. If HQ is waffling on Reigns (as they should), perhaps we may see a bigger buildup to Lesnar/Balor, including Balor winning the Rumble. Of course, this will all depend on how, or even if, they decide to play out the rest of the feud with Bray Wyatt and introduce Sister Abigail in the bargain. This is also referencing a previous incaration Brock Lesnar that wasn't lazy, and did more than three moves a match though. I think the match with AJ will be the litmus test for a feud with Balor. If he makes AJ look good in defeat, then there's hope for Balor. If it's the same under 10 minute match with Lesnar catching AJ with one F5 and beating him, we'll know exactly how the waste of a match with Balor will go until he's forced to make someone look good at Wrestlemania in Reigns. I still say someone other than Brock should be the one to defeat the Demon on the main roster regardless. But I would LOVE Balor winning the Rumble, but that's assuming Vince has put his faith back into Finn, which has seemed lacking since his return.
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Post by cabbageboy on Nov 18, 2017 11:31:14 GMT -5
I put 8-12 minutes. It may even go less than that since the Joe match went 6:25. That's what I don't get about any of this. Why take the belt off Jinder when he could have been squashed in 6 minutes and no one of use would get crushed? Just build the PPV around the Survivor match. I will say at least this gives me hope AJ has a decent run with the belt, since I can't see any scenario where he jobs it about a week before Christmas right back to Jinder at the Clash, especially coming off losing to Lesnar.
Here is also what I don't get about this "Let's job everyone to Brock" crap: If he leaves next year he would basically put one guy over (Roman) and then what? You have an entire roster of buried guys that he's crushed and not many viable challengers. But then I've never seen any appeal in Lesnar, nor do I understand why WWE and even NJPW have fallen all over themselves to push him and put belts on him.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Nov 18, 2017 15:24:03 GMT -5
I want Jinder to interfere. You'd think they'd kinda protect the WWE champion. This might be one of the first matches where I actually want it to end in a run in and DQ finish, in order to keep Styles looking strong.
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