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Post by romanstylesiii on Jan 2, 2018 15:33:40 GMT -5
First, I just want to say Kane is awesome, but he's nearly 50 and has been more or less the same character in the WWE for 3 different decades now. Kane is working full-time at 50, and that is pretty impressive, but I don't think anyone is really paying to see him main event anymore.
But why on earth does Vince think Kane is more marketable than Finn? It could easily be Finn in this match, and the match would probably work way better with Finn in his place.
Kane is awesome, but he is 50 and been on TV consecutively for over 20 years now.
The fact that a mid-card wrestler from the attitude era is still a cornerstone character for the WWE is just sad. Push someone new
This is the equivalent of Sgt Slaughter main eventing against Austin in '99, instead of developing The Rock/HHH
The age of the main agents in '98 (Patterson, Brisco, Slaughter) who were more or less forced into retirement by Vince is actually younger than 1/3rd of the talent who were on Wrestlemania last year.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 2, 2018 15:35:59 GMT -5
Kane is not awesome. And he should apologize for wasting everyone's time.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 2, 2018 15:40:14 GMT -5
Vince forced people into retirement when he was in his 40s/50s could concievably still see people as 'young'. Now he's in his 70s and you'd better believe that not only is Kane a spring chicken by comparison, but Vince has preobably also got the old people stubbornness taking effect where age shouldn't/doesn't matter and he can do anything dammit.
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Post by BigAl on Jan 2, 2018 15:46:49 GMT -5
Vince is now a old, out of touch, vindictive individual, thats all, if its up to him, Roman vs kane will be wrestle mania main event
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jan 2, 2018 15:50:30 GMT -5
Kane has sucked for about 18 of those 20 years.
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Post by Facetious on Jan 2, 2018 15:54:04 GMT -5
Vince is out of touch, plain and simple. Nash claims that Vince told him that "nobody wants to fight for top billing and that guys wait for him to come around and anoint them". Which is hilarious considering Ryder tried his damnest and had his legs cut out from underneath him, Punk tried his hardest and was viewed as opinionated and "hard to work with", Emma didn't like what creative gave her and was "a diva", Cesaro was gaining the crowd reactions desired but was "too Swiss". I could go on for awhile with examples, but I feel as though the point is driven.
WWE is Vince's playground and he is going to play with the toys he wants and he'll be damned if you tell him what is likeable and what isn't.
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Post by Sicho100 on Jan 2, 2018 15:54:12 GMT -5
Because Vince is a terrible booker who is unable to create new stars, so he's scared of giving prime opportunities to newer guys because those guys aren't seen as major stars by the audience, even though the reason those newer guys aren't seen as stars is because Vince's incompetence has sabotaged them.
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Post by BigAl on Jan 2, 2018 15:56:16 GMT -5
and Vince is sooooo out of touch he thinks racist foreigner angles is what fans want, like Jinddah and why he wount push Rusev as a face, and wouldnt suprise me if he was the one who told Nakamaura to talkw ith the mouth guard because "it will justify why he has a accent", and why he wont push anyone with accents like Lynch and Balor (but when it comes to blond girls, oh boy!()
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 2, 2018 16:06:05 GMT -5
Vince is out of touch, plain and simple. Nash claims that Vince told him that "nobody wants to fight for top billing and that guys wait for him to come around and anoint them". Which is hilarious considering Ryder tried his damnest and had his legs cut out from underneath him, Punk tried his hardest and was viewed as opinionated and "hard to work with", Emma didn't like what creative gave her and was "a diva", Cesaro was gaining the crowd reactions desired but was "too Swiss". I could go on for awhile with examples, but I feel as though the point is driven. WWE is Vince's playground and he is going to play with the toys he wants and he'll be damned if you tell him what is likeable and what isn't. "We book in a way where few people ever end up looking all that great, write word-for-word promos for people and they have to follow the scripts entirely. Why is nobody breaking out like Austin did?"
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Jan 2, 2018 16:10:09 GMT -5
Kane is not awesome. And he should apologize for wasting everyone's time. This deserves much more likes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2018 16:15:28 GMT -5
Vince is out of touch, plain and simple. Nash claims that Vince told him that "nobody wants to fight for top billing and that guys wait for him to come around and anoint them". Which is hilarious considering Ryder tried his damnest and had his legs cut out from underneath him, Punk tried his hardest and was viewed as opinionated and "hard to work with", Emma didn't like what creative gave her and was "a diva", Cesaro was gaining the crowd reactions desired but was "too Swiss". I could go on for awhile with examples, but I feel as though the point is driven. WWE is Vince's playground and he is going to play with the toys he wants and he'll be damned if you tell him what is likeable and what isn't. They didn't backstab anyone to get there, though. That's the problem.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 2, 2018 16:25:13 GMT -5
Vince is out of touch, plain and simple. Nash claims that Vince told him that "nobody wants to fight for top billing and that guys wait for him to come around and anoint them". Which is hilarious considering Ryder tried his damnest and had his legs cut out from underneath him, Punk tried his hardest and was viewed as opinionated and "hard to work with", Emma didn't like what creative gave her and was "a diva", Cesaro was gaining the crowd reactions desired but was "too Swiss". I could go on for awhile with examples, but I feel as though the point is driven. WWE is Vince's playground and he is going to play with the toys he wants and he'll be damned if you tell him what is likeable and what isn't. They didn't backstab anyone to get there, though. That's the problem. He's been waiting for 6 years for someone to finally get on with it and be a backstabbing, politicking son-of-a-bitch who pisses all over the rest of the locker room, and the closest he's got is freaking Enzo Amore, who's not a backstabber, more really just an annoying-as-all-hell git.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 2, 2018 16:26:26 GMT -5
Do you really want Finn to be the sacrifical lamb for Braun and Brock?
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Jan 2, 2018 16:54:19 GMT -5
It's the Royal Rumble. The same ppv that has seen title opportunities given to guys like Hardcore Holly. Kane is there to eat the pin on the way to Mania. Put Finn in the match and you'll have an equal amount, if not more, complaining they Finn will eat the pin.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 2, 2018 18:21:10 GMT -5
It's the Royal Rumble. The same ppv that has seen title opportunities given to guys like Hardcore Holly. Kane is there to eat the pin on the way to Mania. Put Finn in the match and you'll have an equal amount, if not more, complaining they Finn will eat the pin. Oh yeah, even more people would be angry if Finn was fed to Brock instead of Finn being fed to the guy who's being fed to Brock while Finn f***s around with the Miztourage. For Finn fans the present outcome is damn near a dream.
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 3, 2018 0:06:23 GMT -5
It's the Royal Rumble. The same ppv that has seen title opportunities given to guys like Hardcore Holly. Kane is there to eat the pin on the way to Mania. Put Finn in the match and you'll have an equal amount, if not more, complaining they Finn will eat the pin. Oh yeah, even more people would be angry if Finn was fed to Brock instead of Finn being fed to the guy who's being fed to Brock while Finn f***s around with the Miztourage. For Finn fans the present outcome is damn near a dream. Exactly- at least by not putting Finn with this group, he's the one guy who hasn't been fed to Brock to fatten him up for the slaughter to Roman. This should be what people want, because it means going into the 2018-19 season Finn remains viable for future storylines with Roman that aren't just "he got squashed by Brock, and Roman squashed Brock, so how can this guy have a prayer against Roman?"
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Post by JCBaggee on Jan 3, 2018 0:25:42 GMT -5
Contextually speaking, Vince does push younger guys, because at 193 years old everyone is younger than Vince.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 3, 2018 0:44:58 GMT -5
This is the equivalent of Sgt Slaughter main eventing against Austin in '99, instead of developing The Rock/HHH Slaughter had a PPV match with HHH in '99.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jan 3, 2018 1:11:40 GMT -5
The more I think about it, the more I'm actually glad Finn isn't being fed to Lesnar en route to jobbing to Roman.
I don't want Brock to be the first person to beat The Demon on the main roster in a meaningless match.
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Post by Peeetah on Jan 3, 2018 1:44:55 GMT -5
I mean I know it's frustrating that Kane is in a main event programme in 2018, but just for balance I gotta say Kane is an all time great and was doing great work up until like the break up of team Hell No a couple of years ago.
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