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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 13, 2018 7:02:01 GMT -5
The annual crossover event at Korukuen Hall has arrived. We've begun discussing the shows in the New Beginning thread, so I figured it was time to start a new one. Here are the cards: Full cards released for both shows. 2/23: Kenny Omega, Kota Ibushi & Chase Owens vs. Cody, Hangman Page & Marty Scurll NEVER Openweight Championship: Hirooki Goto (c) vs. The Beer City Bruiser Dalton Castle, Jay Lethal & Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Jay White, Beretta & Chuckie T KUSHIDA vs. Hiromu Takahashi vs. Flip Gordon Juice Robinson & David Finlay vs. The Young Bucks Jushin Thunder Liger, Delirious & Cheeseburger vs. Tama Tonga, Tanga Loa & HIKULEO Toa Henare & Katsuya Kitamura vs. Bad Luck Fale & Yujiro Takahashi 2/24: Kenny Omega & Kota Ibushi vs. Cody & Marty Scurll ROH World Championship: Dalton Castle (c) vs. Beretta Jay White, YOSHI-HASHI & Chuckie T vs. The Hung Bucks NEVER Openweight 6-Man Tag Team Championship: Bad Luck Fale, Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa (c) vs. Jushin Thunder Liger, Delirious & Cheeseburger Flip Gordon & Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Hiromu Takahashi & BUSHI Jay Lethal, Juice Robinson & David Finlay vs. Yujiro Takahashi, Chase Owens & HIKULEO Toa Henare vs. The Beer City Bruiser The next step in the Bullet Club IMPLODES(!) storyline begins! ROH title match! NEVER and NEVER 6 Man title matches! CHEESEBURGER! |
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Post by chrom on Feb 13, 2018 7:21:26 GMT -5
I know the ROH roster right now is thin, but Bruiser of all people to face Goto?
No Briscoes either which is a bit surprising
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 13, 2018 9:00:39 GMT -5
Seems like kind of a sudden jump-up in profile for Chase Owens to team with the Golden Lovers.
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Post by ronin705 on Feb 13, 2018 9:27:47 GMT -5
Seems like kind of a sudden jump-up in profile for Chase Owens to team with the Golden Lovers. Or matched with Tamas promo, they might be siding with Kenny? ? |
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Post by The Spelunker! on Feb 13, 2018 9:48:42 GMT -5
This card is nothing like what I would’ve expected, and really great.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 13, 2018 11:57:52 GMT -5
Seems like kind of a sudden jump-up in profile for Chase Owens to team with the Golden Lovers. Or matched with Tamas promo, they might be siding with Kenny? ? Those things aren't mutually exclusive. |
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Post by chrom on Feb 13, 2018 13:21:29 GMT -5
No trial match for Kitamura which is a bit odd since he's said he wants to go to ROH for his excursion.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 13, 2018 13:40:12 GMT -5
I am surprised the Bruiser came over instead of someone like Matt Taven or Punishment Martinez.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Feb 13, 2018 14:23:39 GMT -5
Glad to see Bruiser get a shot, I've really come around on him. Really hope Marty teaming with Cody is just for this, I really like him with the Elite.
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Post by Giul T. on Feb 13, 2018 15:51:41 GMT -5
Glad to see Bruiser get a shot, I've really come around on him. Really hope Marty teaming with Cody is just for this, I really like him with the Elite. On twitter he is not happy about thr match saying he didnt ask for this Meanwhile Hangman is all gunho for teaming with Cody |
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Post by cabbageboy on Feb 13, 2018 16:31:21 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really has no interest in this whole Bullet Club implosion angle? It has all the vibe of the NWO B & W vs. Wolfpac which factored mightily in tanking WCW in 1998. It really seems like filler to keep Omega away from any meaningful title pursuits in NJPW, and to keep Cody away from the ROH title. Thing is, Cody already held that and doesn't especially need it, while Omega kinda does need the IWGP title.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 13, 2018 18:02:04 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really has no interest in this whole Bullet Club implosion angle? It has all the vibe of the NWO B & W vs. Wolfpac which factored mightily in tanking WCW in 1998. It really seems like filler to keep Omega away from any meaningful title pursuits in NJPW, and to keep Cody away from the ROH title. Thing is, Cody already held that and doesn't especially need it, while Omega kinda does need the IWGP title. Considering it's not the top storyline of the promotion and sucking up the oxygen of most of the promotion's other angles, I don't really see how it parallels the nWo split besides the obvious "BC is a nWo homage so of course it at least feels like it". There's also a good chance it's the forerunner of a major shake up of NJPW's factions, given that Jay White helped bring this about and now he's the fox in the CHAOS henhouse. |
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Post by chrom on Feb 13, 2018 18:42:16 GMT -5
Am I the only one who really has no interest in this whole Bullet Club implosion angle? It has all the vibe of the NWO B & W vs. Wolfpac which factored mightily in tanking WCW in 1998. It really seems like filler to keep Omega away from any meaningful title pursuits in NJPW, and to keep Cody away from the ROH title. Thing is, Cody already held that and doesn't especially need it, while Omega kinda does need the IWGP title. Considering it's not the top storyline of the promotion and sucking up the oxygen of most of the promotion's other angles, I don't really see how it parallels the nWo split besides the obvious "BC is a nWo homage so of course it at least feels like it". There's also a good chance it's the forerunner of a major shake up of NJPW's factions, given that Jay White helped bring this about and now he's the fox in the CHAOS henhouse. Would like for them to finally do something with Chaos other than just being Okada's cronies or in the case of Yoshi and Goto, stooge |
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Post by cabbageboy on Feb 13, 2018 19:03:18 GMT -5
Chaos as a faction does nothing for me anyway. They aren't the gaijin bad boys of the Bullet Club, or the wacky and intriguing LIJ, or even the vicious Suzuki Gun. It just seems like a bunch of guys in a loose knit faction that have no real chemistry together.
What exactly IS New Japan's main storyline if this whole Bullet Club thing isn't? Do they even have one?
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Post by AwamoriRock on Feb 13, 2018 19:09:18 GMT -5
I'm loving how confused people seem to be about the Golden Lovers name on Twitter.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 13, 2018 19:51:05 GMT -5
Chaos as a faction does nothing for me anyway. They aren't the gaijin bad boys of the Bullet Club, or the wacky and intriguing LIJ, or even the vicious Suzuki Gun. It just seems like a bunch of guys in a loose knit faction that have no real chemistry together. What exactly IS New Japan's main storyline if this whole Bullet Club thing isn't? Do they even have one? They just did LIJ vs. CHAOS (and yeah, CHAOS has usually been more of a loose-knit, MMA-stable style group than a tight faction), Suzuki vs. Makabe is happening, RP3K now gets to deal with Suzuki-Gun, everybody and their mother wants a singles match with Naito...the BC story is just another brick in that wall, it's not the definitive story that takes focus off of everything else for its own purposes. Maybe that'll change over time and evolve, but for now it's just one of many stories going on. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 13, 2018 20:01:01 GMT -5
Yeah, when WCW ran the NWO feuding with itself into the ground, every major player was up top and involved in the proceedings because the NWO had swelled to include almost goddamn everyone. The Bullet Club implosion story right now involves one main event player and midcard dudes down his own faction. Okada's got his own shit to deal with, Naito's doing his thing, even Jay White whose win helped put the split into motion looks to have f***ed off entirely from the scene. It's a major storyline but it's not eclipsing everything the hell else. It's main eventing this crossover show where a lot of guys involved are also fulltime ROH talents, and where there is no actual Okada presence.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 23:59:36 GMT -5
Chaos as a faction does nothing for me anyway. They aren't the gaijin bad boys of the Bullet Club, or the wacky and intriguing LIJ, or even the vicious Suzuki Gun. It just seems like a bunch of guys in a loose knit faction that have no real chemistry together. What exactly IS New Japan's main storyline if this whole Bullet Club thing isn't? Do they even have one? CHAOS in many ways is the all-star stable. Right now they hold 4/5 of the singles titles, in addition to the jr heavyweight tag titles. They're the only faction that's been able to consistently hold down more than one major singles championship, aside from the brief period where Bullet Club held every title during AJ's tenure. It's a little more loose in it's organization, and Okada truly only took the reigns once he recruited Goto after Nakamura left. They were pretty identifiable as good guys for a couple years, but they were true tweeners for years prior, and have been heading back that way this year. |
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Post by corndog on Feb 14, 2018 2:23:50 GMT -5
The Golden Comeback
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 6:14:49 GMT -5
Do we know if this is goi g to be on njpwworld?
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Full cards released for both shows.
