Bizarre theory RE: Roman/Vince/Brock

[Gus Richlen Was Wrong]

OK, hear me out on this. And prepare to have a few 50 lb. bags of salt with you for the taking.

Watching RAW, I was hit with a bit of an odd, unlikely, yet still strangely possible theory regarding the feud between Roman and Brock. I should warn you, this will likely smack of Russo-style booking, hence why I suggested the salt.

Roman has been decrying Brock's lack of respect for the fans, the roster, the company, and the business, to the point where he finally has gone out to confront Vince McMahon backstage because he thinks Vince is protecting Brock. Vince responds by suspending him.

Now, here's where my weirdness strikes. This has been a feud that has been mostly based on worked shoots. It probably wouldn't surprise anyone if Roman's complaints are, indeed, based on any actual resentment towards Brock amongst the roster, and they certainly mirror complaints that fans have, in fact, had about Brock since at least the Ambrose debacle. But what if... the worked shootiness of the feud goes down deeper and has a specific ending, one that many of us haven't yet considered?

Fast forward to WM. Here is what I have a strange feeling is going to happen: Brock and Roman are brawling, maybe not on the level of their previous match but still a wild brawl. All of a sudden, down goes the ref after Roman seemingly Superman punches him by accident. All of a sudden, down struts Vince. Brock doesn't notice and goes back to beating up Roman, which gives Vince the opportunity to deck Heyman, slip into the ring, and low blow Brock as Roman is about to get F5ed. Roman slips out and spears Brock, and Vince, who can serve as a referee because of his position as Chairman if history is anything to go by, counts the pin.

See, Roman and Vince, knowing Brock is on his way out, put up an act where Vince was opposed to Roman's crusade but really is out to make sure that Brock can't jump ship with the title and go to UFC and leave WWE (and Roman) screwed. And after all, Roman is Vince's favorite, right? So why not just say to the fans, "You're damn right he is, and I'd like to see anyone try to knock him off the top of the RAW food chain now!" Roman gets his heel turn, and WWE has the extra benefit of being able to use that challenge to eventually find the person to dethrone him.



Like I said, it's bizarre, it likely won't happen, but I really do have the odd feeling that it COULD.

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Deadly Game 2: Electric Russoaloo

[jagilki]

They try and try and try and the fans will still tear Roman apart during the match.

[Gus Richlen Was Wrong]

Mar 12, 2018 22:48:53 GMT -5 @akeemresurrection said:

Deadly Game 2: Electric Russoaloo

I honestly had forgotten about that when I was hit by this theory, but now that you mention it, it is pretty much that.

[Perd]

Hot that OP was a wrestler, it’s be British Bulldog.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Mar 12, 2018 22:42:23 GMT -5 Gus Richlen Was Wrong said:

OK, hear me out on this. And prepare to have a few 50 lb. bags of salt with you for the taking.

Watching RAW, I was hit with a bit of an odd, unlikely, yet still strangely possible theory regarding the feud between Roman and Brock. I should warn you, this will likely smack of Russo-style booking, hence why I suggested the salt.

Roman has been decrying Brock's lack of respect for the fans, the roster, the company, and the business, to the point where he finally has gone out to confront Vince McMahon backstage because he thinks Vince is protecting Brock. Vince responds by suspending him.

Now, here's where my weirdness strikes. This has been a feud that has been mostly based on worked shoots. It probably wouldn't surprise anyone if Roman's complaints are, indeed, based on any actual resentment towards Brock amongst the roster, and they certainly mirror complaints that fans have, in fact, had about Brock since at least the Ambrose debacle. But what if... the worked shootiness of the feud goes down deeper and has a specific ending, one that many of us haven't yet considered?

Fast forward to WM. Here is what I have a strange feeling is going to happen: Brock and Roman are brawling, maybe not on the level of their previous match but still a wild brawl. All of a sudden, down goes the ref after Roman seemingly Superman punches him by accident. All of a sudden, down struts Vince. Brock doesn't notice and goes back to beating up Roman, which gives Vince the opportunity to deck Heyman, slip into the ring, and low blow Brock as Roman is about to get F5ed. Roman slips out and spears Brock, and Vince, who can serve as a referee because of his position as Chairman if history is anything to go by, counts the pin.

See, Roman and Vince, knowing Brock is on his way out, put up an act where Vince was opposed to Roman's crusade but really is out to make sure that Brock can't jump ship with the title and go to UFC and leave WWE (and Roman) screwed. And after all, Roman is Vince's favorite, right? So why not just say to the fans, "You're damn right he is, and I'd like to see anyone try to knock him off the top of the RAW food chain now!" Roman gets his heel turn, and WWE has the extra benefit of being able to use that challenge to eventually find the person to dethrone him.



Like I said, it's bizarre, it likely won't happen, but I really do have the odd feeling that it COULD.

This would be a good set-up for a feud with a returning Dean Ambrose in for the summer, assuming Seth goes to SmackDown and burns things down there.

[pegasuswarrior]

To me, it’d make it more interesting. Don’t have to book everything the Russo way. But it has its time and place.

[Dub H]

Nah they are just trying to shove some Austin inside of Roman.

Since Rock didn't rock.

Cena didn't work.

Hogan didn't work.

Clearly the solution is givem him some of what made austin popular too.

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Problem is that it makes Lesnar look so tough that it took Reigns and Vince working together to topple him. He looks stronger than ever.

[Gus Richlen Was Wrong]

Mar 13, 2018 1:08:32 GMT -5 @kn said:

Problem is that it makes Lesnar look so tough that it took Reigns and Vince working together to topple him. He looks stronger than ever.

True, but again, it can tie in to the heel turn that is the endgame of this sudden bout of Russoitis that I had, and then some: Vince and Roman need each other to solve their own problems (Roman needs to unseat the invincible Lesnar and take his title; Vince wants to make sure Roman is the clear top guy [note I don't mean "top guy as far as fan popularity," just "top guy in WWE hierarchy] and to prevent Brock from leaving a winner in almost any fashion), and Roman didn't feel like he could rely on his Shield brothers to help get the job done. Sure, it just makes Brock seem stronger, but in the end, he wouldn't have a championship.

[Dukect]

But the big problem with that is your going to make Vince into the main focus and leave Roman as what another one of Vince's lap dogs and the show is once again is highjacked by the McMahons again

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Mar 13, 2018 1:18:58 GMT -5 Gus Richlen Was Wrong said:

Mar 13, 2018 1:08:32 GMT -5 @kn said:

Problem is that it makes Lesnar look so tough that it took Reigns and Vince working together to topple him. He looks stronger than ever.

True, but again, it can tie in to the heel turn that is the endgame of this sudden bout of Russoitis that I had, and then some: Vince and Roman need each other to solve their own problems (Roman needs to unseat the invincible Lesnar and take his title; Vince wants to make sure Roman is the clear top guy [note I don't mean "top guy as far as fan popularity," just "top guy in WWE hierarchy] and to prevent Brock from leaving a winner in almost any fashion), and Roman didn't feel like he could rely on his Shield brothers to help get the job done. Sure, it just makes Brock seem stronger, but in the end, he wouldn't have a championship.

But the thing is when a big name leaves they always setup someone who's next as being greater and this isn't doing that. Lesnar still appears to be the strongest regardless if he doesn't have the title. That's the biggest problem here.

[Gus Richlen Was Wrong]

Mar 13, 2018 1:32:13 GMT -5 @kn said:

Mar 13, 2018 1:18:58 GMT -5 Gus Richlen Was Wrong said:

True, but again, it can tie in to the heel turn that is the endgame of this sudden bout of Russoitis that I had, and then some: Vince and Roman need each other to solve their own problems (Roman needs to unseat the invincible Lesnar and take his title; Vince wants to make sure Roman is the clear top guy [note I don't mean "top guy as far as fan popularity," just "top guy in WWE hierarchy] and to prevent Brock from leaving a winner in almost any fashion), and Roman didn't feel like he could rely on his Shield brothers to help get the job done. Sure, it just makes Brock seem stronger, but in the end, he wouldn't have a championship.

But the thing is when a big name leaves they always setup someone who's next as being greater and this isn't doing that. Lesnar still appears to be the strongest regardless if he doesn't have the title. That's the biggest problem here.

I never said my theory was good. And honestly, I'm at a bit of a loss as to how (assuming it happens, which, knowing my track record with assumptions....) Reigns could turn heel without any outside help and have it make sense.

This is why I keep hesitating to send my (flimsy) writing resume to WWE, because my brain doesn't always (read: NEVER) work right.

[rocnsoc88]

No chance in hell (pun intended).

For one thing, I would be stunned if they turned Roman heel at all at this point. There’s been at least three points since Roman’s push where they’ve refused to turn him heel against any and all possible logic and common sense.

1.) Survivor Series 2015. Rollins was injured so they were out their main event heel, and this was several months after the whole Royal Rumble debacle. Roman still wasn’t getting over as a babyface to the degree that he should have been after several months, and they desperately needed a main event heel.....so of course they give that spot to Sheamus and make Sheamus the heel champion.

2.) His Wellness violation and suspension. I don’t think I need to explain why this was such a logical excuse to turn him.

3.) Him beating The Undertaker last year at Wrestlemania. “This is my yard now” on the post-Wrestlemania Raw was a spectacular gloating heel promo....until it became apparent that it wasn’t intended to be.

Also, having Roman beat Lesnar in an unclean fashion would go against their obvious goal of building Brock up so that Roman can finally conquer him. I disagree with it as much as anyone else does, but at this point even I’m willing to admit that they need to stay the course until Wrestlemania. This year-long title reign, in addition to Lesnar beating the streak and being pushed as an unstoppable monster, will be all for nothing if they don’t have him ultimately get pinned clean. If they’re going to turn Roman heel and have him “endorsed” by Vince (which again, I really don’t think is going to happen), it would have to happen after the match, not during.

[alexwrightspackage]

I dig it, OP. It's just...Vince again? Plus I don't see him being a full time character at his age

If they're gonna do this, might as well have used HHH.

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Let's take this even further. While celebrating, Vince has a gift for Roman.

A Brass Ring.