Defenders considered for Infinity War, deemed impossible

[héad.casé]

“We have considered everything. But the trick is that we already have at least sixty characters with whom we must tell a story! And it’s hard enough to communicate with Taika Waititi, Ryan Coogler, Scott Derrickson, Peyton Reed and James Gunn at the same time, not to add all the showrunners and TV crews to this. The latter is also led by totally different people. So it’s practically impossible. Our job is to focus on the Marvel film world and offer a satisfying climax.”

www.screengeek.net/2018/03/23/avengers-infinity-war-defenders-appearance-deemed-impossible/

From one of the Russo's themselves.

[Citizen Snips]

Thanos is supposed to be the villain. When he brutally murdered Danny Rand, he would've become the biggest babyface in the MCU.

[Talent Name]

Mar 24, 2018 6:34:28 GMT -5 Citizen Snips said:

Thanos is supposed to be the villain. When he brutally murdered Danny Rand, he would've become the biggest babyface in the MCU.

But Danny is the Iron Fist.....

[Mozenrath]

It sucks, but makes sense.

Still, I wish they'd pop up in some capacity in one of the films, just since it seems very weird that this stuff wouldn't be worth mentioning in one of the films. I can buy that Daredevil might not attract a lot of attention on a big-time scale, but you'd figure the events of Defenders, or even just Killgrave in Jessica Jones, would get lip service as "did you hear about THAT shit?" between characters.

[Kevin Hamilton]

At best, I'd only want cameo appearances of them maybe saving people from destruction. There's nothing any of them could do against a Thanos level threat.

[mcmahonfan85]

Mar 24, 2018 13:26:20 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

There's nothing any of them could do against a Thanos level threat.

hey Jessica Jones can drink her way out of any problem!

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

I think it totally sucks that that's the case, but I 100% understand the rationale. The movie was already enormous, no reason to clutter it up even MORE.

[The Ichi]

I see the Defenders as kind of the NXT of the MCU. They work best as a seperate thing.

[Sir Woodrow]

All this talk about how impossible it is to have the Defenders show up is just them not trying to hurt the Inhumans feelings

[chrom]

Just have them be cameos or at least make reference to what's been going on with what their doing. Don't think The Netflix shows have ever been made mention of with the rest of the MCU. Even AOS hasn't talked about or made mention of say Killgrave or incidents involving The Earthquakes in New York

Like they could show Thanos' forces attacking when suddenly one is shot in the head followed by another and it pans to a rooftop where we see a man taking aim and see the skull symbol on his outfit. Or a family is trapped under rubble when its suddenly lifted up effortlessly by someone in a hoodie.

[Citizen Snips]

Mar 24, 2018 16:19:27 GMT -5 Sir Woodrow said:

All this talk about how impossible it is to have the Defenders show up is just them not trying to hurt the Inhumans feelings

Way back when people were unsure if Guardians of the Galaxy was going to be "Marvel's first bomb" (haters still waiting on that one, btw), I figured if it did tank, they'd use the Guardians as sacrificial lambs to Thanos in the cold open of whatever the Infinity Gauntlet movie ended up being.

The Inhumans are many layers of suck below even being used as cannon-fodder.

[héad.casé]

Mar 24, 2018 16:19:27 GMT -5 Sir Woodrow said:

All this talk about how impossible it is to have the Defenders show up is just them not trying to hurt the Inhumans feelings

Wasn't Inhumans planned to be a movie at one point? I swear it was on one of Marvel's movie schedule announcement conferences. Same day they announced Chadwick Boseman would be playing T'Challa if I remember right.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Mar 24, 2018 16:49:59 GMT -5 chrom said:

Don't think The Netflix shows have ever been made mention of with the rest of the MCU. Even AOS hasn't talked about or made mention of say Killgrave or incidents involving The Earthquakes in New York.

Ben Urich's front page stories of the Battle of New York and Hulk vs. Abomination in Harlem are framed in his/Karen's office in Daredevil and Punisher.

The woman who tries to kill Jessica Jones in season one hated powered people because her mother died in the Chitauri invasion.

Cap, Thor, Hulk, Stark and Black Widow are referenced or name dropped in all four shows (poor Hawkeye, always forgotten). There's a guy in Luke Cage trying to sell bootleg footage of the Battle of New York.

The villain from Jessica Jones season two is offered a deal that would keep her out of The Raft, the sea-prison Cap's Avengers wind up in in Civil War.

Diamondback's weapons and suit, as well as the gear Cottonmouth was buying on the black market, were made by Hammer Tech, and Justin Hammer being in prison is referenced.

Fisk points out his entire plan to gentrify Hell's Kitchen is boosted by the damage done to it during the Battle of New York.

Mar 24, 2018 17:27:57 GMT -5 héad.casé said:

Mar 24, 2018 16:19:27 GMT -5 Sir Woodrow said:

All this talk about how impossible it is to have the Defenders show up is just them not trying to hurt the Inhumans feelings

Wasn't Inhumans planned to be a movie at one point? I swear it was on one of Marvel's movie schedule announcement conferences. Same day they announced Chadwick Boseman would be playing T'Challa if I remember right.

It was, reportedly forced into the lineup by Ike Perlmutter in exchange for him green lighting Black Panther. After Feige gained full control of Marvel Studios the first thing he did was drop Inhumans like a bad habit, with Spider-Man's return to the fold being an unrelated, but highly convenient replacement.

[chrom]

Mar 24, 2018 19:14:28 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

Mar 24, 2018 16:49:59 GMT -5 chrom said:

Don't think The Netflix shows have ever been made mention of with the rest of the MCU. Even AOS hasn't talked about or made mention of say Killgrave or incidents involving The Earthquakes in New York.

Ben Urich's front page stories of the Battle of New York and Hulk vs. Abomination in Harlem are framed in his/Karen's office in Daredevil and Punisher.

The woman who tries to kill Jessica Jones in season one hated powered people because her mother died in the Chitauri invasion.

Cap, Thor, Hulk, Stark and Black Widow are referenced or name dropped in all four shows (poor Hawkeye, always forgotten). There's a guy in Luke Cage trying to sell bootleg footage of the Battle of New York.

The villain from Jessica Jones season two is offered a deal that would keep her out of The Raft, the sea-prison Cap's Avengers wind up in in Civil War.

Diamondback's weapons and suit, as well as the gear Cottonmouth was buying on the black market, were made by Hammer Tech, and Justin Hammer being in prison is referenced.

Fisk points out his entire plan to gentrify Hell's Kitchen is boosted by the damage done to it during the Battle of New York.

Mar 24, 2018 17:27:57 GMT -5 héad.casé said:

Wasn't Inhumans planned to be a movie at one point? I swear it was on one of Marvel's movie schedule announcement conferences. Same day they announced Chadwick Boseman would be playing T'Challa if I remember right.

It was, reportedly forced into the lineup by Ike Perlmutter in exchange for him green lighting Black Panther. After Feige gained full control of Marvel Studios the first thing he did was drop Inhumans like a bad habit, with Spider-Man's return to the fold being an unrelated, but highly convenient replacement.

I meant the Netflix shows being alluded to and acknowledged by the rest of the MCU.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Mar 24, 2018 19:27:47 GMT -5 chrom said:

I meant the Netflix shows being alluded to and acknowledged by the rest of the MCU.

Ah, I'm with you now. Marvel want to make their universe as sleazy to follow as possible. People already complain that the movies are too interconnected for them to follow, so obviously they don't want to put people off by making people need to watch a dozen different TV shows as well.

The way Marvel have it set up is that everything makes reference to the movies, since it's a pretty fair assumption that if you're watching a Marvel TV show you're likely also watching the movies, or at least aware of the main players in them.

After that, each TV property only references shows on their own platform. The ABC shows all tie in together (Agent Carter referenced in AOS, AOS references in Inhumans). Netflix shows are obviously all tied together. The Hulu and Freeform shows currently have no counterparts, but should other shows be produced for them they will likely follow the same pattern.

Everything is in the same continuity, and according to both Charlie Cox and Chloe Bennett it is written in all the TV actors contracts that they can be called on to appear in the movies if/when necessary, so evidently at some point it was planned for the possibility of TV characters crossing over.

[Rolent Tex]

I still call bull on the reasoning only for the fact that they don’t need to actually play a big part in it, but can still be referenced. Civil War showed that the government is aware of stuff going on. I can’t believe that super powered vigilantes in Hell’s Kitchen is beneath their notice. Just have General Ross bust out some crappy footage taped of incidents involving other heroes...or mention them trying to keep tabs on Inhumans.

[wildojinx]

Is it that hard to film some quick reaction shots of Jessica, Danny, Frank, and Luke looking up at the sky?

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Mar 25, 2018 0:04:32 GMT -5 wildojinx said:

Is it that hard to film some quick reaction shots of Jessica, Danny, Frank, and Luke looking up at the sky?

I don't think it's quite so much that, as much as those reaction shots would more of less require the shows themselves to have an Infinity War arc. Can't exactly have them show up in Defenders Season 2 and have one of them say "Remember the time that purple guy showed up and wrecked most of the planet? Boy was that a trip!" and move on.

Though I'd love Defenders Season 2 to be tied into Infinity War, seeing it from the street perspective.

[Citizen Snips]

Ike Perlmutter went all in for Inhumans while dragging his feet on Black Panther and he's worth about $4 billion. What a country.

[riseofsetian1981]

So are we supposed to believe Thanos is causing all this havoc in New York and they can't even be bothered to have a short cameo as someone here mentioned of them looking up at the sky or something? Come on now. Thanos bringing literal Hell on Earth isn't something that can happen on one side of New York while the other side is unscathed.