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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 6, 2018 23:32:01 GMT -5
Because War, Under The Red Hood, Public Enemies, The Dark Knight Returns, and Flashpoint Paradox are all kinds of amazing. Every single one you listed is from years ago and War is okay at best.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Apr 6, 2018 23:34:24 GMT -5
Because War, Under The Red Hood, Public Enemies, The Dark Knight Returns, and Flashpoint Paradox are all kinds of amazing. Every single one you listed is from years ago and War is okay at best. Sure, they were from years ago. But that doesn't take away their greatness in my opinion. I think War was absolutely amazing and one of the best DC animated outings. I am probably biased honestly because that was the first DC animated film that I ever watched.
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Post by Jiren on Apr 6, 2018 23:44:07 GMT -5
Because War, Under The Red Hood, Public Enemies, The Dark Knight Returns, and Flashpoint Paradox are all kinds of amazing. Every single one you listed is from years ago and War is okay at best. You're being very kind to "War", while not the worst of the Post Flashpoint movies (Bad Blood wins that award) it's still rubbish
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 7, 2018 0:00:44 GMT -5
Every single one you listed is from years ago and War is okay at best. You're being very kind to "War", while not the worst of the Post Flashpoint movies (Bad Blood wins that award) it's still rubbish Bad Blood is the worst trash I've ever seen. Makes Talia look like a psychopath and an idiot at the same time. It's also obvious that Batwoman and Batwing were originally written to be Red Hood and Red Robin, before hastily rewriting it to be the Kate and Luke because, reasons?
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Post by Jiren on Apr 7, 2018 0:08:44 GMT -5
You're being very kind to "War", while not the worst of the Post Flashpoint movies (Bad Blood wins that award) it's still rubbish Bad Blood is the worst trash I've ever seen. Makes Talia look like a psychopath and an idiot at the same time. It's also obvious that Batwoman and Batwing were originally written to be Red Hood and Red Robin, before hastily rewriting it to be the Kate and Luke because, reasons? For me it's biggest crime is that it's so damn boring, it took multiple tries to watch it as I kept falling asleep. After I finally watched it i wish I hadn't bothered as it was terrible (2 issues you already mentioned)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 17:51:51 GMT -5
Honestly the thing with a lot of these ideas is... in isolation I probably wouldn't mind them? I can buy Bruce eventually deciding f*** it and ditching the manor because it's too painful to be there or whatever. I can buy him burying himself in vices after a few years as Batman to numb the physical and emotional pain. I can even kind of buy the idea Bruce would turn all brooding over Dick going solo instead of continuing to stand by his side and presumably cutting him off in the process, though that one is a major reach when Jason Todd makes vastly more sense as something to be hung up on. Hell, I can get over him killing people because I love the Burton movies, although it sure as hell doesn't work in an attempt to be a more serious Batman story instead of dumb brooding camp like those are because it's such a major part of his character.
But all of it's executed awfully, none of this can actually be gleamed from the movie, and it's all shit that shouldn't be done at the very beginning of a universe.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Apr 7, 2018 17:57:43 GMT -5
Honestly the thing with a lot of these ideas is... in isolation I probably wouldn't mind them? I can buy Bruce eventually deciding f*** it and ditching the manor because it's too painful to be there or whatever. I can buy him burying himself in vices after a few years as Batman to numb the physical and emotional pain. I can even kind of buy the idea Bruce would turn all brooding over Dick going solo instead of continuing to stand by his side and presumably cutting him off in the process, though that one is a major reach when Jason Todd makes vastly more sense as something to be hung up on. Hell, I can get over him killing people because I love the Burton movies, although it sure as hell doesn't work in an attempt to be a more serious Batman story instead of dumb brooding camp like those are because it's such a major part of his character. But all of it's executed awfully, none of this can actually be gleamed from the movie, and it's all shit that shouldn't be done at the very beginning of a universe. It's like I said in a previous post, he basically created an entire Batman movie in his head that he never filmed but we need to know about in order to understand the Batman movie he did film. Now I'm no film expert, but that doesn't sound like a good way to go about things.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 8:00:52 GMT -5
Exactly The only post Flashpoint movie that was any good was "Assault on Arkham". Even the non Nu52 movies have been crap (Killing Joke, Gaslight), Hopefully "Ninja" is good "Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders", "Scooby-Doo! & Batman: The Brave and the Bold", and "Lego DC Superheroes: The Flash" are all enjoyable. I watched Lego DC Superheroes: The Flash and Suicide Squad: Hell to Pay respectively over the past couple of nights. Quite enjoyed them and I had my doubts going into Suicide Squad because the animated films can vary in quality
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 8, 2018 13:39:42 GMT -5
Honestly the thing with a lot of these ideas is... in isolation I probably wouldn't mind them? I can buy Bruce eventually deciding f*** it and ditching the manor because it's too painful to be there or whatever. I can buy him burying himself in vices after a few years as Batman to numb the physical and emotional pain. I can even kind of buy the idea Bruce would turn all brooding over Dick going solo instead of continuing to stand by his side and presumably cutting him off in the process, though that one is a major reach when Jason Todd makes vastly more sense as something to be hung up on. Hell, I can get over him killing people because I love the Burton movies, although it sure as hell doesn't work in an attempt to be a more serious Batman story instead of dumb brooding camp like those are because it's such a major part of his character. But all of it's executed awfully, none of this can actually be gleamed from the movie, and it's all shit that shouldn't be done at the very beginning of a universe. It's like I said in a previous post, he basically created an entire Batman movie in his head that he never filmed but we need to know about in order to understand the Batman movie he did film. Now I'm no film expert, but that doesn't sound like a good way to go about things. It's the main area where I give Snyder a bit of a break concerning Batman v Superman: there was no reason whatsoever why WB shouldn't have planned a separate Batman movie and likely a Man of Steel sequel before going for the crossover film. The guy's ambitious, I'll give him that, but he has a rough enough time executing his ideas as it is, and the studio basically saying "make them fight now, oh and cram in Wonder Woman, pls" just upped the insanity.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Apr 9, 2018 3:46:18 GMT -5
Snyder can do all the arsepulls he wants it's not going to change that Batman VS Superman is a terrible movie.
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 9, 2018 7:00:41 GMT -5
I can't believe there's people who want to see his cut of Justice League.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Apr 9, 2018 8:06:42 GMT -5
I can't believe there's people who want to see his cut of Justice League. his NON-EXISTENT cut of the movie.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 9, 2018 8:17:40 GMT -5
I can't believe there's people who want to see his cut of Justice League. his NON-EXISTENT cut of the movie. Oh no, it totally exists, WB just mothballed it because Disney planted their mole Joss Whedon to sabotage it. Or something. Yes, that's a genuine conspiracy theory doing the rounds.
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Post by James Fabiano on Apr 9, 2018 8:18:28 GMT -5
I can't believe there's people who want to see his cut of Justice League. his NON-EXISTENT cut of the movie. Try telling them that. But seriously, he was creatively let go from the DCCU? I thought he left due to his family tragedy?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Apr 9, 2018 8:29:04 GMT -5
his NON-EXISTENT cut of the movie. Try telling them that. But seriously, he was creatively let go from the DCCU? I thought he left due to his family tragedy? I think it's a bit of column A, a bit of column B. they did let him go because of the family tragedy but I doubt they were particularly interested in keeping him or brnging him back. it was very sad but also very convenient.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Apr 9, 2018 13:10:14 GMT -5
Try telling them that. But seriously, he was creatively let go from the DCCU? I thought he left due to his family tragedy? I think it's a bit of column A, a bit of column B. they did let him go because of the family tragedy but I doubt they were particularly interested in keeping him or brnging him back. it was very sad but also very convenient. pretty sure it was almost all column a, and very little column b. words come out he was gone well before the news of his daughter, and unfortunately the tragedy was a way for both sides to publicly part ways and save face. if WB had announced they outright fired Snyder during post for Justice League, the movie they've been building up to with bad movie after bad movie (excluding WW), they'd basically be admitting they made a huge mistake putting him in charge and the DCEU is a disaster. and Snyder's reputation and career are severely damaged because it's not an Edgar Wright/Ant-Man situation; he was given free reign and dropped the ball big time. his daughter's suicide, while tragic and no doubt extremely painful to him, provided both sides with an out.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 9, 2018 15:10:27 GMT -5
His explanations make the movie even worse than it already is.
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 9, 2018 15:11:04 GMT -5
I can explain your movie: It sucked
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 17, 2018 20:25:39 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 17, 2018 20:28:47 GMT -5
Good lord. This man is all over the place and his vision is all over the place
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