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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 16, 2018 0:06:31 GMT -5
Booker T at Wrestlemania 21. Was active and popular but got squeezed from what was a relatively tight-run WM. It is also worth noting the original MitB was RAW-only, so couldn't even squeeze the guy in there. Booker won the pre-show battle royal at least, but nobody could see that except the live crowd until the DVD release. |
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 16, 2018 4:44:35 GMT -5
Diesel at WMX.
He may have been in Shawn’s corner in the ladder match but he was only there for a couple of minutes before being sent to the back. At the previous PPV (the Rumble) he was booked as a monster with a dominant performance.
Not being on the card at Wrestlemania didn't really hurt him as a few weeks after he would be the IC Champ and then Tag and WWF Champ later in the year but if you’re setting someone up to be your next huge star, surely at the biggest show of the year you’d have him do something more than be a valet for less than five minutes?
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Apr 16, 2018 6:08:10 GMT -5
Diesel at WMX. He may have been in Shawn’s corner in the ladder match but he was only there for a couple of minutes before being sent to the back. At the previous PPV (the Rumble) he was booked as a monster with a dominant performance. Not being on the card at Wrestlemania didn't really hurt him as a few weeks after he would be the IC Champ and then Tag and WWF Champ later in the year but if you’re setting someone up to be your next huge star, surely at the biggest show of the year you’d have him do something more than be a valet for less than five minutes? From Kevin Nash's perspective, it's a Wrestlemania payday for 5 minutes work and then getting to drink sodas in the back! |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 16, 2018 7:22:00 GMT -5
Diesel at WMX. He may have been in Shawn’s corner in the ladder match but he was only there for a couple of minutes before being sent to the back. At the previous PPV (the Rumble) he was booked as a monster with a dominant performance. Not being on the card at Wrestlemania didn't really hurt him as a few weeks after he would be the IC Champ and then Tag and WWF Champ later in the year but if you’re setting someone up to be your next huge star, surely at the biggest show of the year you’d have him do something more than be a valet for less than five minutes? From Kevin Nash's perspective, it's a Wrestlemania payday for 5 minutes work and then getting to drink sodas in the back! This was the Kliq in the mid 1990s. I’m pretty sure those weren’t sodas! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 7:33:53 GMT -5
Essa Rios debuted right before WM16, winning the long-dormant light-heavyweight title from Gillberg (who'd been released in '99 and came back to drop the title), and while I understand him not being part of that Wrestlemania I always thought it was very odd to have him debut so close to WM (the weekend before, IIRC) so he couldn't be part of it... Booker T at Wrestlemania 21. Was active and popular but got squeezed from what was a relatively tight-run WM. It is also worth noting the original MitB was RAW-only, so couldn't even squeeze the guy in there. Booker won the pre-show battle royal at least, but nobody could see that except the live crowd until the DVD release. An odd match without his involvement, honestly - his winning made it look better. (And it was honestly a great battle royal). But who else could've won that match without it looking like a pure low/mid-carders battle royal? (The following year's pre-show battle royal certainly suffered from not having a top-ish guy in it.) |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 16, 2018 8:29:22 GMT -5
Diesel at WMX. He may have been in Shawn’s corner in the ladder match but he was only there for a couple of minutes before being sent to the back. At the previous PPV (the Rumble) he was booked as a monster with a dominant performance. Not being on the card at Wrestlemania didn't really hurt him as a few weeks after he would be the IC Champ and then Tag and WWF Champ later in the year but if you’re setting someone up to be your next huge star, surely at the biggest show of the year you’d have him do something more than be a valet for less than five minutes? From Kevin Nash's perspective, it's a Wrestlemania payday for 5 minutes work and then getting to drink sodas in the back! I think you meant take some Somas in the back. |
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Post by Zen411 on Apr 16, 2018 10:34:46 GMT -5
Does anyone know why kamala missed mania 3 after a hot feud with Hogan and roberts?
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Post by chronocross on Apr 16, 2018 12:59:46 GMT -5
Does anyone know why kamala missed mania 3 after a hot feud with Hogan and roberts? It's odd, I remember seeing interviews on TV hyping up a match between Kamala and Bundy in early 87, but I'm guessing that went on the house show circuit. |
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Post by mistakrabz on May 15, 2018 18:45:44 GMT -5
Essa Rios debuted right before WM16, winning the long-dormant light-heavyweight title from Gillberg (who'd been released in '99 and came back to drop the title), and while I understand him not being part of that Wrestlemania I always thought it was very odd to have him debut so close to WM (the weekend before, IIRC) so he couldn't be part of it...
I don't remember him being so over during his WWF run. Where would they place him on the card. I guess he could've been thrown into the hardcore battle royal.
To add to this thread, while he was on the Sunday Night Heat before WrestleMania XV, The Godfather wasn't on the main card.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on May 15, 2018 18:56:27 GMT -5
Does the cancelled 8 man Tag match at WM 10 count? The Undertaker would be considered borderlined for WM10 because he was taking a lot of time off for being beat up but I don't think he had surgery of can kind at the time. So he kind of could have worked the show if he really had too.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 15, 2018 20:58:41 GMT -5
Does the cancelled 8 man Tag match at WM 10 count? The Undertaker would be considered borderlined for WM10 because he was taking a lot of time off for being beat up but I don't think he had surgery of can kind at the time. So he kind of could have worked the show if he really had too. Believe his wife had recently given birth. So he took time off. |
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Post by Reflecto on May 15, 2018 22:32:26 GMT -5
Essa Rios debuted right before WM16, winning the long-dormant light-heavyweight title from Gillberg (who'd been released in '99 and came back to drop the title), and while I understand him not being part of that Wrestlemania I always thought it was very odd to have him debut so close to WM (the weekend before, IIRC) so he couldn't be part of it... ]I don't remember him being so over during his WWF run. Where would they place him on the card. I guess he could've been thrown into the hardcore battle royal. Well, it was also weirder with Essa Rios- because, let's not mince words about it: Essa Rios was basically a delivery package for Lita, even as Light Heavyweight Champion. With that in mind, you couldn't exactly put Essa Rios in the hardcore battle royal unless you were willing to have Lita steal a pinfall to win the Hardcore Title, and she'd be way too new for that big a push. |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 9:38:46 GMT -5
Essa Rios debuted right before WM16, winning the long-dormant light-heavyweight title from Gillberg (who'd been released in '99 and came back to drop the title), and while I understand him not being part of that Wrestlemania I always thought it was very odd to have him debut so close to WM (the weekend before, IIRC) so he couldn't be part of it...
I don't remember him being so over during his WWF run. Where would they place him on the card. I guess he could've been thrown into the hardcore battle royal. That was my first thought too, but then I recalled that WM16 was this weird....."tag team" Wrestlemania. (Insert Teddy Long meme here). Every single match was multi-person, with Terri/Cat being the only singles match (though both Mae and Moolah got involved so it was kind of a multi-person/tag match). At first, that leaves Essa out thematically........but then again, he had Lita in his corner, so that coulda turned into an intergender tag match easily. Thing is, the roster was pretty much tapped at that point so another tag match would've been beyond overkill. Plus I think Gangrel was the only other name guy not part of that WrestleMania, and he may've been injured at the time. |
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Post by MolotovMocktail on May 20, 2018 12:19:54 GMT -5
Having Jimmy Snuka and Bob Orton as cornermen in the main event of Wrestlemania I instead of making it a 6-man match was always baffling to me.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on May 20, 2018 12:32:27 GMT -5
Billy Gunn missed Wrestlemania 17. I don't think he was out injured as he competed at the Royal Rumble and was Intercontinental champion a few months earlier. Strange that he wasn't in Chyna's corner for her match against Ivory. X-Pac as well. I would have said Rikishi too but I believe he was injured. |
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Post by TGM on May 20, 2018 12:59:40 GMT -5
Billy Gunn missed Wrestlemania 17. I don't think he was out injured as he competed at the Royal Rumble and was Intercontinental champion a few months earlier. Strange that he wasn't in Chyna's corner for her match against Ivory. X-Pac as well. I would have said Rikishi too but I believe he was injured. I think X-Pac and Justin wrestled the dark match against the odd couple of Steve Blackman and Grandmaster Sexay. Does make me wonder where Albert was though. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on May 20, 2018 14:35:48 GMT -5
X-Pac as well. I would have said Rikishi too but I believe he was injured. I think X-Pac and Justin wrestled the dark match against the odd couple of Steve Blackman and Grandmaster Sexay. Does make me wonder where Albert was though. Pretty sure Albert was in X-Pac and Credible's corner in that dark/Heat match. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 14:46:46 GMT -5
With Diesel, I was shocked they didn't plug him into the ten-man tag and have him destroy everybody.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on May 20, 2018 14:58:33 GMT -5
With Diesel, I was shocked they didn't plug him into the ten-man tag and have him destroy everybody. The match that was cancelled anyway? |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2018 15:01:44 GMT -5
With Diesel, I was shocked they didn't plug him into the ten-man tag and have him destroy everybody. The match that was cancelled anyway? Time constraints, apparently Razor and Shawn went over their allotted time. |
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