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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 21, 2018 3:23:39 GMT -5
Well this could potentially be an interesting discussion
What's an opinion you haven't changed your mind on? For example, for me I still believe WWE made the best decision with Randy Orton defeating Christian for the title that led to their great Summer long feud. IMO Christian losing the title that fast and getting the heel turn did more him than a 3 month white meat babyface title run would have done
What is an opinion you stick with?
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Post by TGM on Apr 21, 2018 7:55:21 GMT -5
While I agree that the Christian / Orton series were some of the best matches of 2011, I really think Christian deserved a face run with the title. His ECW title reign would have served as a prototype.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 21, 2018 9:32:42 GMT -5
Wrestling is at its best when matches have heat,selling and psychology. High spots are vasty over rated.
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Post by corndog on Apr 21, 2018 10:13:55 GMT -5
Hogan and Nash abusing their political power in WCW, I even hated it in '98.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2018 10:26:50 GMT -5
Well this could potentially be an interesting discussion What's an opinion you haven't changed your mind on? For example, for me I still believe WWE made the best decision with Randy Orton defeating Christian for the title I agree with this. I also still think Christian was never world title material. Shelton has never been interesting. Cena is WWE'S greatest ever main event talent.
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Post by edgestar on Apr 21, 2018 10:49:44 GMT -5
The spit up at WM2 is still gross to me
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 21, 2018 11:39:15 GMT -5
Wrestling is supposed to be a fight of good against evil, not a spot show and not gymnastics.
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Post by grungesmurf on Apr 21, 2018 12:01:47 GMT -5
They should still be the WWF.
Adding the Europeon title wasn’t necessary.
shawn michaels will forever be the most overrated and praised wrestler ever!
The nWo shouldn’t have expanded beyond Hogan, Hall and Nash.
The Undisputed title should still be a thing today.
Scott Steiner didn’t need to bulk up even more than he already was to do the big papa pump gimmick.
Nikita Koloff random face turn was a very bad thing.
Back in the 80’s when the WWF had a lot of tag teams they should have had Intercontinental tag champs.
Asuka’s streak should have ended before she left NXT.
Sickboy deserved a singles push maybe to the television title.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 21, 2018 12:13:43 GMT -5
I will agree with that in regards to Asuka shouldn't have been called up to the main roster with her streak
I like Kenny Omega and think he's one of the top wrestlers in the world and performers in the world without question but I still have never really been fully sold on him being IWGP HW Champ and dethroning Okada
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Post by Malcolm on Apr 21, 2018 12:14:54 GMT -5
Letting Brock Lesnar end the steak was a bad idea.
Not everyone needs to be a flippity kicky spot-monkey. Working a slower match style or being a hoss shouldn't be frowned upon. And no, that doesn't mean that I want chinlock fests.
I would take an okay worker with a great character over a great worker with a generic character.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 21, 2018 12:24:29 GMT -5
Okada shouldn't have won the belt back in the first place, and beating Omega and Naito at their obvious crowning moments and then having his 87th match with Tanahashi has done nothing to improve my opinion.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 21, 2018 12:32:13 GMT -5
Okada shouldn't have won the belt back in the first place, and beating Omega and Naito at their obvious crowning moments and then having his 87th match with Tanahashi has done nothing to improve my opinion. I understand putting the title back on Okada after Naito was too hot to ignore to keep the title off him. However, only giving Naito like a 60 day run with the belt is doing more harm then good when you now flip time almost 3 years forward Gedo has lost the benefit of doubt as well in regards to Okada reign for me. I don't see a real plan but more so things just happening as they come
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Apr 21, 2018 12:38:45 GMT -5
Eugene was f***ing terrible from start to finish and probably one of the worst gimmicks to come out of the mid 2000s.
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 21, 2018 12:58:46 GMT -5
Christian should have been the face in that feud with Orton. The program would have been even better if Orton (who wrestles like a heel and is so much better as one) had been the bad guy in that feud, as having Christian, a dude who won his first world title and had just seen his best friend forced to retire, play the heel was a mistake. Not only did that feud kill off the heat of Christian, it also helped to even further the damage to Orton as a draw. Orton was never the same after WM25, and his heat died off even more in 2011. Not surprising that in 2013, with Orton hanging over the Main Event with the MitB case, the Summerslam buyrates were so low that year.
The Wyatt Family, by having the misfortune of debuting in a segment with Kane and having Baltimore Smarks chanting "HUSKY HARRIS!", were doomed from the start.
WWE Should have offered Bobby Roode a contract in 2013 when his TNA one ran out and TNA tried to lowball him. He was awesome as The It Factor, and the MitB case should have been given to him rather than Randy Orton.
Even though his TNA run was awful, and he'll be forever damned for his Liberace gimmick, WWE still could have done more with Damien Sandow in 2015 when he split from The Miz.
The Undertaker should have retired years ago.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 21, 2018 13:00:43 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels behaviour during his mid 90s run will always be a black mark against him and stops him being one of the greatest of all time in my opinion. Vince handed him the keys to the kingdom despite his mediocre drawing power and he bitched and moaned, trying to get himself fired so he could go to their biggest rival.
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 21, 2018 13:01:02 GMT -5
Eugene was f***ing terrible from start to finish and probably one of the worst gimmicks to come out of the mid 2000s. I f***ing hated Eugene. Just....no. As for Opinions -Monty Brown should have won the NWA World Title -The 7 Way Intercontinental Ladder Match at WM31 shouldn't have been a thing. -Neither should have the one at WM32. -WWE's booking to marginalize the talent for the Brand is extremely ass backwards -You need a booking team. Not writers. -The X-Division has run it's course. It should have been merged with the Grand Championship and just bring back the World TV Championship as TNA/Impact's mid card belt. -Still not too fond of the Brand Spilt. -The WWE should be the WWF -The Winged Eagle should still be the belt for the WWE Champ.
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Post by grungesmurf on Apr 21, 2018 13:01:55 GMT -5
The spit up at WM2 is still gross to me Okay I haven’t seen WM2 in a very long time. So my memory is foggy what spit up?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 21, 2018 13:22:16 GMT -5
Okada shouldn't have won the belt back in the first place, and beating Omega and Naito at their obvious crowning moments and then having his 87th match with Tanahashi has done nothing to improve my opinion. I understand putting the title back on Okada after Naito was too hot to ignore to keep the title off him. However, only giving Naito like a 60 day run with the belt is doing more harm then good when you now flip time almost 3 years forward Gedo has lost the benefit of doubt as well in regards to Okada reign for me. I don't see a real plan but more so things just happening as they come Seriously, they had Sanada appear and look like some new serious threat after costing Okada the title. He could be right up there right away if he gets a good start. So what did they do? Have Okada kill him in his first match, then kill Naito in the rematch, and so TWO potential main eventers get to look like assholes right off. Oh and Sanada jobs out a fresh Tanahashi in the G1 a few weeks later, meaning by wrestler maths there's no way a banged up Tanahashi in 2018 should have a chance against allegedly the best form anyone has ever been on Okada. Also count all the people that could have been elevated by a win in this 2 years but haven't been. ...and that every match ends with Half-Rainmaker, missed Rainmaker, attempted challenger finisher, counter, Rainmaker, win. BORING. Please god, I hope someone ends this shit at Dominion.
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Post by edgestar on Apr 21, 2018 13:45:32 GMT -5
The spit up at WM2 is still gross to me Okay I haven’t seen WM2 in a very long time. So my memory is foggy what spit up? Jake the snake/George Wells match
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Apr 21, 2018 14:49:12 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy, meh. I just don't see it.
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