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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 28, 2018 8:52:18 GMT -5
Also, did anyone notice the trailer lied a bit with the Hulk doing a charge in Wakanda? Marvel are getting pretty tricky with their trailers. Remember Ragnarok's trailers had Thor with both eyes in shots from after the point where he lost one, as well as a similar shot of he, Hulk, Loki and Valkyrie marching down the Bifrost bridge towards Hela, which never happened in the movie. Times gone by there used to be moments in movies that were really only there for use as trailer moments, now trailer moments are created exclusively for trailers.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 28, 2018 8:56:36 GMT -5
Also, did anyone notice the trailer lied a bit with the Hulk doing a charge in Wakanda? Marvel are getting pretty tricky with their trailers. Remember Ragnarok's trailers had Thor with both eyes in shots from after the point where he lost one, as well as a similar shot of he, Hulk, Loki and Valkyrie marching down the Bifrost bridge towards Hela, which never happened in the movie. Times gone by there used to be moments in movies that were really only there for use as trailer moments, now trailer moments are created exclusively for trailers. Plus they edited some of the Stones out of the Infinity Gauntlet when they showed Thanos in Wakanda.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 28, 2018 9:04:56 GMT -5
Marvel are getting pretty tricky with their trailers. Remember Ragnarok's trailers had Thor with both eyes in shots from after the point where he lost one, as well as a similar shot of he, Hulk, Loki and Valkyrie marching down the Bifrost bridge towards Hela, which never happened in the movie. Times gone by there used to be moments in movies that were really only there for use as trailer moments, now trailer moments are created exclusively for trailers. Plus they edited some of the Stones out of the Infinity Gauntlet when they showed Thanos in Wakanda. Age of Ultron's trailers were packed with stuff that was never in the movie, and a scene of them fighting drones had Vision removed. Bottom line: Marvel will give us a lot of footage in the trailers and TV spots, but probably 25% of it is going to be misdirection.
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Post by Shark on Apr 28, 2018 9:21:24 GMT -5
Something I really think the Russo's have shined at doing is mixing the tone. This is a heavy movie and the heavy moments work. They did a similar thing in Civil War. The serious and funny all worked together, unlike Age of Ultron where they didn't mesh as well, I felt. I like that most of the comedy came from the Guardians, the more naturally jocular characters.
I love that the movie ended so bleakly too. The end credits featured none of the usual Marvel flair. No triumphant music, no stylized credits. Just white text on a black screen. Even the ending stinger isn't a lot of hope to go on. Hill and Fury still fade from existence.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 28, 2018 9:49:03 GMT -5
Saw it yesterday. The highest compliment I can pay it is at the 2 hr 30 minute mark I thought it was going into the third act. And then that ending (not the stinger) the final shot. Have we talked about how fn good Josh Brolin was? Because he made Thanos' motivations so clear and understandable that I coupd have some sympathy for him. The multiple locations and teams each got enough time imo. The changes in tone never seemed forced.Iron Spider! The rabbit! It's a great film that met all its goals splendidly.
Trailers: Adrift, Venom, Jurrasic World, Deadpool 2.
Favorite Dialogue: "I'm Peter. I'm Dr.Strange. Oh we're doing fake names?"
What I wish they had done: Had Peter reference a RDJ movie from the 80s like "Weird Science" or "Back to School"
Favorite crowd reaction: "So was Robin Shabotsky always in these movies"?
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Post by mattperiolat on Apr 28, 2018 10:09:40 GMT -5
Just watched it a second time. Credit to the script writers and Russo Brothers for the almost herculan task of this film. One question though: After the snap and people start disappearing... what does captain america say? I never quite caught it. 'Oh god...' One of my favourite moments. He knew. On a deep level, he knew everything he had fought so hard to protect on this rock for so long... his worst nightmare had come to pass. And if you think about it, all of the people he was closest to are gone too. Forget Vince McMahon, the Russos and Feige have balls the size of grapefruits.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 28, 2018 10:16:21 GMT -5
The more and more I think about the idea of Captain Marvel being the focal point the remaining heroes rally around being possibly representative of her being the face of the next era of the MCU, the more I like it.
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Post by Fade on Apr 28, 2018 11:22:54 GMT -5
'Twas fun. I liked it. It was a ride. I don't even like thinking of this as a film, but more as a spectacle (like the first Avengers, just better).
10 years ago I was 19/20 going out of my mind with Iron-Man and TDK, and going insane with speculating of the future scope of the MCU, 10 years later, I'm 30, it kind of annoys me and irks me how huge it's become, but I can't lie: It lived up to the hype. It was a real fun time. I kept thinking "THANK GOD Whedon got the boot" cause this would of been a mess under his direction. Kudos to the Russos doing what can only be called a superb job with such a ridiculous script.
And some solid acting. Probably some of the most solid acting in any of the MCU flicks.
My GF exclaimed with glee everything Rocket came on, so I'm glad Rabbit didn't Sandman on us at the end.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 28, 2018 11:24:06 GMT -5
Something I really think the Russo's have shined at doing is mixing the tone. This is a heavy movie and the heavy moments work. They did a similar thing in Civil War. The serious and funny all worked together, unlike Age of Ultron where they didn't mesh as well, I felt. I like that most of the comedy came from the Guardians, the more naturally jocular characters. I love that the movie ended so bleakly too. The end credits featured none of the usual Marvel flair. No triumphant music, no stylized credits. Just white text on a black screen. Even the ending stinger isn't a lot of hope to go on. Hill and Fury still fade from existence. The Russos really handle the mix of what these films need perfectly well. The humor pretty much goes out the window in the third act, but there's still a few funny lines (Okoye wondering why they had Scarlet Witch in the back the whole time when she shows up and wrecks the giant wheels, the "I am Groot/I am Steve Rogers" exchange) that feel natural and aren't just wisecracks shoehorned in to undermine the unfolding horror.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Apr 28, 2018 11:49:24 GMT -5
Okay...I saw this movie last night and loved it. But I have a couple of questions. Don't feel like going through 13 pages to see if it was addressed...please keep in mind that I don't read the comics.
-Aren't there upcoming movies with the Guardians, T'Challa and what not? If so, they're gonna have to explain/retcon this shit, yes?
-How awesome was Iron Spider Man? or is it Iron Spider?
-Loved the Hulk refusing to come out. Are they going anywhere with that in the future?
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 28, 2018 11:58:29 GMT -5
Okay...I saw this movie last night and loved it. But I have a couple of questions. Don't feel like going through 13 pages to see if it was addressed...please keep in mind that I don't read the comics. -Aren't there upcoming movies with the Guardians, T'Challa and what not? If so, they're gonna have to explain/retcon this shit, yes? -How awesome was Iron Spider Man? or is it Iron Spider? -Loved the Hulk refusing to come out. Are they going anywhere with that in the future? - The people who got turned to dust are likely going to be resurrected through Infinity Stone shenanigans in Avengers 4. - I imagine Avengers 4 will also have Hulk overcoming his fears and gloriously whooping Thanos's purple ass, along with everyone else getting themselves some.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 28, 2018 12:05:25 GMT -5
Loved it, but saw it with the WORST possible crowd chock full of annoying teenagers who talked through the whole thing like they were in their living room and who couldn't stop laughing during all the inappropriate parts, especially the post finger snap disappearances. Half the audience left as soon as the credits started, people started shoiting "Alright, X-Men!" when the Captain Marvel insignia popped up, and everyone on the way out was making fun of the whole thing and going on about how it's stupid because they know Spider-Man couldn't be dead because Venom is coming out soon. That sounds awful!!!
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 28, 2018 12:10:46 GMT -5
I know Carol Danvers hung around with the X-Men for a bit (with Rogue's powers even coming because she absorbed Carol's powers), but how do you derive her Captain Marvel insignia as an X-Men symbol?
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Post by Fade on Apr 28, 2018 12:18:26 GMT -5
I know Carol Danvers hung around with the X-Men for a bit (with Rogue's powers even coming because she absorbed Carol's powers), but how do you derive her Captain Marvel insignia as an X-Men symbol? It's trolling.
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Post by Stu on Apr 28, 2018 12:28:24 GMT -5
#ThanosDemandsYourSilence Even after seeing the movie, I will respect the command. I refuse to ruin this for anyone at any time. . Everyone in this thread has already seen the film (or just doesn't care). You're not ruining it for anyone.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 28, 2018 12:35:20 GMT -5
-Aren't there upcoming movies with the Guardians, T'Challa and what not? If so, they're gonna have to explain/retcon this shit, yes? I mean technically they haven’t announced the movies after Avengers 4 yet (and yeah, James Gunn said they’ll be a new Guardians but hey, for all we know, that could be the original Guardians teased at the end of 2) so they have an out on saying “Well, we never said there was a new (insert character here) movie” if they were to do that. But they probably will have those characters back at the end of 4 to set those movies up. BP’s box office pretty much said as much.
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Post by mattperiolat on Apr 28, 2018 12:45:25 GMT -5
#ThanosDemandsYourSilence Even after seeing the movie, I will respect the command. I refuse to ruin this for anyone at any time. . Everyone in this thread has already seen the film (or just doesn't care). You're not ruining it for anyone. I respect that, guess I still have my shields up. This is so... big, I feel like I still have to mind my Ps and Qs.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 28, 2018 12:46:19 GMT -5
-Aren't there upcoming movies with the Guardians, T'Challa and what not? If so, they're gonna have to explain/retcon this shit, yes? I mean technically they haven’t announced the movies after Avengers 4 yet (and yeah, James Gunn said they’ll be a new Guardians but hey, for all we know, that could be the original Guardians teased at the end of 2) so they have an out on saying “Well, we never said there was a new (insert character here) movie” if they were to do that. But they probably will have those characters back at the end of 4 to set those movies up. BP’s box office pretty much said as much. And the cynic in me doesn't believe Marvel will keep any main character dead as long as they can make money from them, to the point where I'm leaning towards none of the characters killed in IW will remain dead and nobody stays dead in A4. Easier to make money from a character that's "missing" or "retired" than to come up with a way of resurrecting them that doesn't feel forced or hokey. In the Infinity Gauntlet they've got the ultimate reset button and they can only really use it once.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 28, 2018 13:22:32 GMT -5
Saw it today, really enjoyable. The high point was that we finally got a worthy villain and Josh Brolin played it brilliantly.
Random observation: How was everyone human able to breathe normally on Titan? And any other planet for that matter
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Apr 28, 2018 13:26:15 GMT -5
Holy shit, that was amazing! I just got out of seeing it, loved it! I cried when Spider-Man turned to dust.
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