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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:40:24 GMT -5
No offense to Carol, but the only Captain Marvel I ever cared about was Mar-Vell. Closer than me I guess, only Captain Marvel I've ever cared about is Billy Batson.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 29, 2018 22:43:19 GMT -5
But guys... Genis.
I know me and DSR were pretty much the only people readin that book, but still.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 29, 2018 22:47:43 GMT -5
I honestly don't think you're supposed to buy into the disintegration deaths. I think the drama comes from "How do we get them back?". Obviously Black Panther, Star-Lord, Doctor Strange, and Spider-Man aren't dead and I don't think Marvel expected anyone to think it. Yeah actually now that I thought about it more I'm ok with it actually. It definitely works at hooking me for the second half of the story I just really wish it would a been Iron Man, Cap and Thor that died because I would feel a bit more doubtful that way. Once again Marvel hits it out of the park. Oh yeah and thank God they changed Thanos' motive because I always thought the lovesick puppy about Death thing always made him come off leas like an evil genius and more like a whiny manchild. True, but I think there's a very obvious reason those characters didn't die. Avengers 4 is going to serve as a swan song for the original roster. The goal here is pretty obviously to pair up the original 6 one last time.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 29, 2018 22:56:19 GMT -5
The OG Avengers having one final adventure, while Captain Marvel shows up to be the torchbearer for the new generation.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Apr 29, 2018 22:57:58 GMT -5
But guys... Genis. I know me and DSR were pretty much the only people readin that book, but still. Man, this universe doesn't even have a Rick Jones in it, and that dude was half the fun of the Genis-Vell series.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 29, 2018 23:12:58 GMT -5
No offense to Carol, but the only Captain Marvel I ever cared about was Mar-Vell. Closer than me I guess, only Captain Marvel I've ever cared about is Billy Batson. My friends, be at ease. All Captain Marvels suck equally. Old school Miss Marvel, that's another story.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 29, 2018 23:19:12 GMT -5
Nobody better be saying a bad word about Kamala Khan... because she is awesome.
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Post by Killah Ray on Apr 29, 2018 23:23:25 GMT -5
Everyone nitpicking about the ending because we know its getting retconned is getting annoying...
These movies as evidenced by the ridiculous box office totals are obviously made for more than comic fans and the reactions to the deaths are what they were aiming for....there was literally a woman openly bawling crying as soon as Bucky disintegrated....hell even Spider Man got me a little choked up...
Also I don't watch the cartoons or anything, is Captain Marvel getting a lot of screen time or something? Seems an odd choice to end the film on even though she obviously is going to be a central figure to the new Avengers after 4....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 23:29:42 GMT -5
Everyone nitpicking about the ending because we know its getting retconned is getting annoying... These movies as evidenced by the ridiculous box office totals are obviously made for more than comic fans and the reactions to the deaths are what they were aiming for....there was literally a woman openly bawling crying as soon as Bucky disintegrated....hell even Spider Man got me a little choked up... Also I don't watch the cartoons or anything, is Captain Marvel getting a lot of screen time or something? Seems an odd choice to end the film on even though she obviously is going to be a central figure to the new Avengers after 4.... She's basically been promoted to a top tier hero position in the last few years on par with Captain America and Iron Man, leading multiple teams and going on cosmic level adventures.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 29, 2018 23:35:32 GMT -5
Everyone nitpicking about the ending because we know its getting retconned is getting annoying... These movies as evidenced by the ridiculous box office totals are obviously made for more than comic fans and the reactions to the deaths are what they were aiming for....there was literally a woman openly bawling crying as soon as Bucky disintegrated....hell even Spider Man got me a little choked up... Also I don't watch the cartoons or anything, is Captain Marvel getting a lot of screen time or something? Seems an odd choice to end the film on even though she obviously is going to be a central figure to the new Avengers after 4.... She's basically been promoted to a top tier hero position in the last few years on par with Captain America and Iron Man, leading multiple teams and going on cosmic level adventures. They've been angling Carol as the Marvel equivalent to Wonder Woman, likely so that they could introduce her into the MCU (which we'll be getting soon).
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 29, 2018 23:46:55 GMT -5
The idea that in a single weekend Infinity War could top the entire domestic run of Justice League just goes to show how completely hopelessly outclassed the DCEU is right now. DC have got major damage control to do. In any other reality Justice League vs. Avengers should be a titanic box office battle. In this one it's been a literal squash match. I guess that's what happens when one studio keeps the central base of these characters, and doesn't change everything about them, while the other studio says "f*** it, we're changing everything. Batman will kill, but somehow despite killing mooks with no problem, he'll let Joker live. And Superman will be mopey, broody, and depressed." 10 Years ago if I had come onto these forums and said that Batista would be one of the best things of the then virgin MCU, you'll all would have thought me mad and then most likely proceed to make a plethora of basket ball jokes. Yeah what most are saying is true this is the super hero equivalent of The Empire Strikes Back and I too can't wait until next year for the epic conclusion. Return of the Jedi Avengers.(Incidentally, it's fitting that noted Star Wars fan in the comics Carol Danvers seems like she'll figure into helping save the day.) Avengers: Avenging of the Revengers
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Post by lucas_lee on Apr 30, 2018 0:25:32 GMT -5
So is the true villian in this film Starlord or not ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 30, 2018 1:00:50 GMT -5
So is the true villian in this film Starlord or not ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Nah. Note that Strange is the only person not trying to calm him down. Even if they managed to get the Gauntlet off Thanos's hand he'd have still won in a way that left no possible comeback.
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Post by Renslayer on Apr 30, 2018 1:06:42 GMT -5
M'Baku gets the throne via technicality. The MCU and I have, at times, a combative relationship. While my love for certain characters goes back to childhood, I'm often not a fan of the films they're in because the formula for these films can be tiring and stagnant. Something has happened over the past few installments. I think they're comfortable with assuming everything they touch will turn to gold, and now is the time to experiment. This movie was tremendous. Thanos' motivation transcending beyond "I WANT POWER!" was a great choice. The final scene with him was so different than most villains. He completed his task and retired to a farm. Because he felt so justified in what he was doing, because he sold how much his sacrifice meant to him, they really created a multi-dimensional character. Speaking of his task, the snap happened. While I wish they added an original Avenger to the death toll, the emotion of Spidey's death was more than enough to make up for it. That was the most unsettling and heartbreaking of them. In that moment it was a kid pleading and panicking as he realized his time was near. Tony holding him as he disappeared was almost too much for me. Overall, there's nitpicks I could point to here and there, but the movie far exceeded my expectations. This could've been the greatest clusterf*** of all time, yet they somehow pulled it off. Hmmm, I wonder if Shuri gets the throne since she's the next of kin. M'Baku leading Wakanda would definitely be fascinating tho. And Spidey's disintegration really hit home the hardest, especially when you remember Tony told him to stay back.
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Post by Ryushinku on Apr 30, 2018 3:09:54 GMT -5
So is the true villian in this film Starlord or not ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Nah. Note that Strange is the only person not trying to calm him down. Even if they managed to get the Gauntlet off Thanos's hand he'd have still won in a way that left no possible comeback. Strange's journey into 14 million+ multiple futures to discover the only successful one definitely feels like the big hail-mary that'll solve this problem in the next part. Now, without Strange being there to offer up guidance, that sure make it a lot trickier! But still, everything after that point (especially in scenes where Strange is present and could alter things) are all in service of what he knows. A real 'lose the battle but win the war' situation.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Apr 30, 2018 5:24:27 GMT -5
Everyone nitpicking about the ending because we know its getting retconned is getting annoying... These movies as evidenced by the ridiculous box office totals are obviously made for more than comic fans and the reactions to the deaths are what they were aiming for....there was literally a woman openly bawling crying as soon as Bucky disintegrated....hell even Spider Man got me a little choked up... Also I don't watch the cartoons or anything, is Captain Marvel getting a lot of screen time or something? Seems an odd choice to end the film on even though she obviously is going to be a central figure to the new Avengers after 4.... She's basically been promoted to a top tier hero position in the last few years on par with Captain America and Iron Man, leading multiple teams and going on cosmic level adventures. I suspect maybe Doctor Strange and Captain Marvel are taking the Iron Man and Captain America roles respectively. I base that solely on both Strange and Stark have goatees and are incredibly knowledge of their fields and Rogers/Danvers are Captains. As for Carol Danvers... I don't know. I'm hyped for her. Feige has talked her up as being very powerful and I'm all for another female superhero. Being Marvel I'm sure it'll be at least as good as if not better than Wonder Woman. Brie Larson will kill it. Also the Skrulls will be there so we get a bit more of the Marvel cosmic universe.
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Post by montee916 on Apr 30, 2018 6:06:46 GMT -5
DC have got major damage control to do. In any other reality Justice League vs. Avengers should be a titanic box office battle. In this one it's been a literal squash match. I guess that's what happens when one studio keeps the central base of these characters, and doesn't change everything about them, while the other studio says "f*** it, we're changing everything. Batman will kill, but somehow despite killing mooks with no problem, he'll let Joker live. And Superman will be mopey, broody, and depressed." That was one comment on YouTube that made me laugh. Saying that the only thing DC had over Marvel was that DC were better at doing moody and grimdark.... and then Marvel released A:IW.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Apr 30, 2018 6:11:28 GMT -5
And Spidey's disintegration really hit home the hardest, especially when you remember Tony told him to stay back. Man if they don't do any kind of memory wipe to the Thanos victims, in Homcoming 2 old Pete is most likely going to have to deal with a monumental case of PTSD.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 30, 2018 6:32:47 GMT -5
And Spidey's disintegration really hit home the hardest, especially when you remember Tony told him to stay back. Man if they don't do any kind of memory wipe to the Thanos victims, in Homcoming 2 old Pete is most likely going to have to deal with a monumental case of PTSD. I'm pretty sure they'll undo events so the snap never happens, otherwise every therapist on Earth is going to be booked up 24/7 for the next 50 years. ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/rofl.png)
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 30, 2018 7:06:01 GMT -5
Right. Of course then the conversation that's gonna have to happen at one point where they have to clarify which Captain Marvel. No not that one. No that one. No not that one. No not... Can we also get Genis? Please? I'm just gonna say I have no idea WHERE this attitude comes from because outside of die-hard oldheads nobody in the general public has ever heard of Mar-vell or Genis-Vell at all; if they do know who Billy Batson is they probably just call him Shazam, because that's the only name he's promoted under anymore. Marvel's gone out of its way to push the hell out of Carol since her promotion and by the time this movie comes out she's probably going to be the only Captain marvel anyone's talking about. I understand everybody is somebody's favorite character but the idea that nobody knows who Carol Danvers is or that people would rather watch Mar-vell at this point is utterly farcical (and I'm not saying this applies to everyone, but there often seems to be an undercurent of misogyny tothese kinds of comments. just putting that out there).
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