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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 4, 2018 14:52:38 GMT -5
By the way, polling the thread here, but what did anyone else get from the scene of Thanos at the end? Is he happy he accomplished his goals? Or feeling empty about it because of what he had to give up? I like the latter interpretation. Both. He's satisfied, but it's bittersweet
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Post by the2ndevil on May 4, 2018 15:21:31 GMT -5
By the way, polling the thread here, but what did anyone else get from the scene of Thanos at the end? Is he happy he accomplished his goals? Or feeling empty about it because of what he had to give up? I like the latter interpretation. Both. He's satisfied, but it's bittersweet As he said to the child form of Gamora after the finger snap. He did it, but it cost him everything.
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Post by pegasuswarrior on May 4, 2018 15:36:43 GMT -5
By the way, polling the thread here, but what did anyone else get from the scene of Thanos at the end? Is he happy he accomplished his goals? Or feeling empty about it because of what he had to give up? I like the latter interpretation. Both. He's satisfied, but it's bittersweet I agree. It’s kind of a “This isn’t easy” kinda role. But I did what had to be done. “It ain’t easy bein’ cheesy.”
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Post by Larryhausen on May 4, 2018 15:45:14 GMT -5
Both. He's satisfied, but it's bittersweet I agree. It’s kind of a “This isn’t easy” kinda role. But I did what had to be done. “It ain’t easy bein’ cheesy.” No I want a photoshop of Thanos as The Godfather. "Cullin ain't easy!"
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Post by eJm on May 4, 2018 16:05:51 GMT -5
And we’ve crossed the billion dollar mark!
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Post by pegasuswarrior on May 4, 2018 16:49:34 GMT -5
Unreleased footage — the reaction of the Watchers to the end of Infinity War:
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Post by cabbageboy on May 4, 2018 17:27:29 GMT -5
Finally saw it today. I thought it was awesome, my brother however despised it. As in he let loose with a bunch of vitriol saying it was everything he has hated about recent Marvel movies times 10. This was also maybe the 3rd movie my son has been to (he is 6). The others were Lego Batman and Ferdinand, neither of which were as long as this nor did they have the ultra downer ending. He didn't seem too fazed by the ending though, just figured everything would be undone and they'd all be back in the next movie.
If I had to quibble here are a couple of things. I felt the various romances were thrown together here and had no real development that we saw onscreen but instead occurred between movies (Quill/Gamora, Scarlet Witch/Vision). In one case the previous movie hinted at this but didn't follow through with it (GOTG2) and the Wanda/Vision stuff was scarcely touched upon in Civil War other than them being there at Avengers HQ. Oh, and the various Thanos minions didn't have enough development to emerge as characters.
I wonder if kids now even know how good they have it when it comes to this kind of stuff. There are so many kids who don't even know a world where there isn't a good Captain America movie. The baffling thing isn't that Marvel characters are dominating the film landscape, it's that this took so insanely long to happen. It probably should have happened 25-30 years ago, though I have to admit some stuff like a Wesley Snipes Black Panther would probably have done that character no favors (Tony Todd for Killmonger anyone?).
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on May 4, 2018 18:00:47 GMT -5
If I had to quibble here are a couple of things. I felt the various romances were thrown together here and had no real development that we saw onscreen but instead occurred between movies (Quill/Gamora, Scarlet Witch/Vision). In one case the previous movie hinted at this but didn't follow through with it (GOTG2) and the Wanda/Vision stuff was scarcely touched upon in Civil War other than them being there at Avengers HQ. Oh, and the various Thanos minions didn't have enough development to emerge as characters. Love and romance storylines are often the weaker parts of the Marvel movies. I'm not bothered by the Bruce/Natasha pairing like a lot of fans are, but much like the Wanda/Vision pairing, there hasn't been enough stuff shown to connect the characters, to say nothing about audiences being unable to become emotionally invested in these relationships. In the case of Wanda/Vision especially, the pairing seems to exist solely because they were a couple in the comics, and less to do with the actual chemistry (or lack thereof?) between Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany. Tony/Pepper really shouldn't work, and for one movie, didn't, because Stark's personality is addictive by nature, so being Iron Man will always come between them. Because Thor will never spend 100% of his time either on Earth or in space, his relationships, with Jane, Sif, and maybe Valkyrie (?), can't really blossom. Gamora/Quill should and can work, but IW probably pulled the trigger a bit too soon on the "I love you" stuff, because again, I don't think the first two GOTG films have laid all the groundwork for that relationship that's required. The best love story in the MCU right now is probably Steve/Peggy, precisely because it remained unrequited. I don't think Steve/Sharon works at all. Maybe Nakia/T'Challa will work as a pairing, but we've just been introduced to that relationship, so we haven't had enough time to see and care about their getting back together. To say nothing about same-sex pairings in the Marvel movies, which don't really exist, despite fan-shipping attempts (see Stucky). At most, if a character is gay, lesbian, or bi, it's only hinted at, as with the Valkyrie flashback in Ragnarok, for example, and not stated outright. Whereas the TV side of the MCU has had both openly gay and lesbian characters, plus those same characters also having relationships.
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Post by Rican on May 4, 2018 18:21:36 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 4, 2018 18:32:04 GMT -5
I definitely think they could've had a 2-3 minute sequence of him getting the Power Stone as a post-credits scene in another movie. Too many of Marvel's mid/post-credits scenes are throwaway bits that really don't add to the movie they're part of or do anything to set up the next one. GOTGv2 had five and none were essential in any way, even the Adam one given it's not looking likely to be paid off in v3. That would have been cool, but remember Guardians 2 takes place back in 2014, so it wouldn't have made sense to do it in that film. The only other film to put that scene in would've been Ragnorak, and that had Thanos' ship showing up to kick start Infinity War, so I don't really know where they could've fit in a destruction of Xandar scene. Maybe as a short 5 minute movie released on YouTube, to be put on the blu ray as an extra? A mid-credit sequence in GOTGv2 takes place shortly before Infinity War (Quill and teenage Groot), though. And it's not a problem that couldn't be fixed by a "four years later" label.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on May 4, 2018 19:38:15 GMT -5
According to didthanoskillme
"You were spared by Thanos."
Good to know!
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on May 4, 2018 19:41:02 GMT -5
That would have been cool, but remember Guardians 2 takes place back in 2014, so it wouldn't have made sense to do it in that film. The only other film to put that scene in would've been Ragnorak, and that had Thanos' ship showing up to kick start Infinity War, so I don't really know where they could've fit in a destruction of Xandar scene. Maybe as a short 5 minute movie released on YouTube, to be put on the blu ray as an extra? A mid-credit sequence in GOTGv2 takes place shortly before Infinity War (Quill and teenage Groot), though. And it's not a problem that couldn't be fixed by a "four years later" label. I'd personally replace the final stinger (I think it was the Stan Lee and the Watchers one?) with one showing a brief glimpse of Xandar's destruction and Thanos and whatnot.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 4, 2018 19:54:51 GMT -5
And we’ve crossed the billion dollar mark! And how many Marvel movies has crossed one billion now?
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Post by Welfare Willis on May 4, 2018 20:13:32 GMT -5
And we’ve crossed the billion dollar mark! And how many Marvel movies has crossed one billion now? And how many tears are being shed by the people who run the DCEU?
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Post by HMARK Center on May 4, 2018 20:14:00 GMT -5
I have to admit, I was kind of glad to find Film Crit Hulk's review of this one, because he put some of my feelings into words better than I had been able to: observer.com/2018/04/avengers-infinity-war-movie-and-marvels-endless-endgame/He echoes some of these arguments in his older articles about Spider-man: Homecoming and Civil War, that the latter MCU films have often paid too much lip service to really being about about something but all too often pump the brakes before really committing to a concept that could carry some real weight and consequence. This doesn't mean having to go grimdark at all, but it means having to sometimes do things that might take the audience out of its comfort zone; that's too risky, however, when you want to gross over a billion just about every time out, so it's easier to pay that lip service but then mostly ensure that things revert to status quo. Interestingly, he says that, even as a lifelong comic book fan, he's not happy to see the Marvel films basically begin operating more fully like comic books, given that the two mediums simply aren't the same and often have very distinct storytelling goals. Come to think of it, that was pretty much my chief complaint about The Last Jedi, too, so it might just be a larger Disney thing at this point. But yeah, all too often I've left these movies feeling fine, but kind of "eh" about things; never bummed that I had dropped $10 to spend a night out and catch a movie, but rarely excited or really blown away the way I was after superhero films like The Dark Knight, Logan, or back in the day Spider-man 2. In the end, those films felt like they really were about something and included the bits that can make an audience feel ill at ease, and it gives them a harder impact; too often, recent MCU films I've seen feel that all the work goes into the characterization (an important component, no doubt) but allow the story and the deeper themes to languish. I guess with these of late I've felt too much like I ate a Wendy's hamburger; it's good, perfectly well made, but once it's done you kind of toss the wrapper and forget about it. To be fair, I'll readily acknowledge that I felt the Guardians films, Thor: Ragnarok, and Black Panther were all a cut above that level, but even each of those had some kind of component that, to me at least, felt like it kept them at the "good" level but barring them from being thoroughly great, and I can't help but feel it's the overarching cinematic universe structure and the push toward the team-up movies that's contributing to that. But yeah; I've mentioned before how, a handful of years ago, Bob Iger, Disney's CEO, gave a quote about how they as a studio had figured out how to "take the risk out of blockbusters", to ensure their profitability. It's definitely working for Disney, but I can't get fully on board with it. They make films that are sound, absolutely; films with really good actors, at least decent scripts, and that cover some really good social beats and at least hint at deeper thematic meanings. But there's something hollow at the core that's really taken me out of enjoying them at the level I enjoyed some of the more "risky" blockbusters of the past, I guess.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 4, 2018 20:16:23 GMT -5
And how many Marvel movies has crossed one billion now? And how many tears are being shed by the people who run the DCEU? The proper answer is a ton Did Justice League even break even for DC?
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Post by Dub H on May 4, 2018 20:20:19 GMT -5
The only issue that I have right now is that I have no interest in both movies until Avenger Part 2
Antman is cool,but inthe middle of the most epic story is kinda... there? And Captain Marvel will need a pretty bad-ass trailer.
And after Avengers Part 2,comes the big hitters like GoG vol 3.
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Post by Dub H on May 4, 2018 20:22:09 GMT -5
A mid-credit sequence in GOTGv2 takes place shortly before Infinity War (Quill and teenage Groot), though. And it's not a problem that couldn't be fixed by a "four years later" label. I'd personally replace the final stinger (I think it was the Stan Lee and the Watchers one?) with one showing a brief glimpse of Xandar's destruction and Thanos and whatnot. The issue is, the destruction of Xandar was in the script of Avenger infinity war,so it couldnt be in GoG vol2. Hindsight 20/20 yes,it should have been one of the post scene credits.But that wasnt the plan at the time
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 4, 2018 20:28:28 GMT -5
And we’ve crossed the billion dollar mark! And how many Marvel movies has crossed one billion now? - Avengers ($1.5bn) - Iron Man 3 ($1.2bn) - Avengers: Age of Ultron ($1.4bn) - Captain America: Civil War ($1.2bn) - Black Panther ($1.3bn and counting) - Avengers: Infinity War ($1bn and counting) Total box office for the entire MCU is around $16 billion, with total production budget of $3.5 billion.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 4, 2018 20:31:44 GMT -5
And how many Marvel movies has crossed one billion now? - Avengers ($1.5bn) - Iron Man 3 ($1.2bn) - Avengers: Age of Ultron ($1.4bn) - Captain America: Civil War ($1.2bn) - Black Panther ($1.3bn and counting) - Avengers: Infinity War ($1bn and counting) Total box office for the entire MCU is around $16 billion, with total production budget of $3.5 billion. Shit can't complain when you have made back over 4x your investment
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