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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 1:47:51 GMT -5
Yeah I think Roman's just lost the spirit he had and he's stuck in the motions now. It's like when you work at a job and you get so depressed with you that you only go in for the checks. In Roman's eyes he's probably figuring "well I make the money so I'll do whatever it is, f*** the rest" now.
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Post by andrew8798 on Apr 28, 2018 1:49:52 GMT -5
Most folks have to agree they broken him
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Post by andrew8798 on Apr 28, 2018 1:50:47 GMT -5
I said it before I like all three guys but they screwed up all three of them
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Post by andrew8798 on Apr 28, 2018 1:51:50 GMT -5
Yeah I think Roman's just lost the spirit he had and he's stuck in the motions now. It's like when you work at a job and you get so depressed with you that you only go in for the checks. In Roman's eyes he's probably figuring "well I make the money so I'll do whatever it is, f*** the rest" now. I know that feeling when you look at the clock and ready for 5 to come
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 2:00:15 GMT -5
I look forward to whatever comes next because I just don't even know what they've got planned with the guy. It's just overall weird.
Well finally time to watch this ppv in full, just glad that we find out that Roman lost again. It's more entertaining although in a pathetic sort of way on his part.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 28, 2018 2:39:44 GMT -5
I said it before I like all three guys but they screwed up all three of them I'd say Rollins is in a better place right now than Reigns is. Rollins has regained his credibility and has become a reliable babyface workhorse that the crowd loves to see. He could easily slot into the company ace spot and people would buy it and want to see it. Even Ambrose might be to an extent. A long-term injury often resets the board in regards to credibility and such, but it's not like he was struggling that much with it before he got hurt. It wouldn't have been too much of a stretch to put Ambrose in that ace position if he just strung a few strong wins (both in matches and in feuds) together.
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Post by spagett on Apr 28, 2018 3:02:46 GMT -5
I said it before I like all three guys but they screwed up all three of them I'd say Rollins is in a better place right now than Reigns is. Rollins has regained his credibility and has become a reliable babyface workhorse that the crowd loves to see. He could easily slot into the company ace spot and people would buy it and want to see it. Even Ambrose might be to an extent. A long-term injury often resets the board in regards to credibility and such, but it's not like he was struggling that much with it before he got hurt. It wouldn't have been too much of a stretch to put Ambrose in that ace position if he just strung a few strong wins (both in matches and in feuds) together. Plus Ambrose still has the big heel turn to come which will breathe new life into his character. I imagine Ambrose isn't like Reigns in that WWE are ok with turning him heel.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 4:16:22 GMT -5
They should do a double turn at backlash. As well as the obvious benefits of a heel Reigns, Joe could shift a lot of merch as a face (a hastily put together 'Joe's going to kill you' t-shirt would sell like hotcakes) and there's options on SDL. Miz trying to dodge him, he had decent chemistry with Nakamura in nxt, Orton looks to be eyeing a heel turn, could be a good test in the experiment of elevating Big Cass ect.
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Post by HardKore on Apr 28, 2018 4:16:37 GMT -5
Vince McMahon has such a wild life, yet if given the opportunity to talk to him about anything, I'd choose to sit down and discuss this weird ass Roman Reigns shit with him. I'd ask him why he pushed Mable in 1995.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 4:21:50 GMT -5
Roman Reigns in WWE is like if they had a golf tournament and they gave one of the golfers unlimited mulligans. But the other golfers had to play by the regular rules.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 28, 2018 6:16:02 GMT -5
If he doesn't turn vicious heel after this booking, but WWE keeps pushing him as a top guy, then just close up shop, because it'll be the worst booking of a top wrestler in a major promotion since...umm...huh...is there anybody whose booking was actually worse? Said it after WM, will say it again: if you want Reigns as your top guy, stop apologizing about it, stop half-assing it, stop having screwy finishes, just make him your guy and alter your show around the emphasize his strengths and hide his weaknesses. You've got a world of talent on this roster, but this perpetual grey cloud has people tuning out in droves. Exactly. Hell, WWE don't even need to turn him IMO, they just need to quit with this start-stop booking for the dude. Given his strengths as a performer, it's killing his aura. Roman should be a character who dominates guys and kills jobbers dead. He got over in the Shield by being a killer. This "Roman the scrappy underdog who never quits" doesn't suit him at all That's a big reason why more fans are resenting him, IMO. He should have had a multi-month or a year-long run with the world or Universal title years ago.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 28, 2018 6:35:53 GMT -5
You look at Reigns and you can tell he not happy He looks like he was told by everyone in charge that he would be the next Austin/Rock/etc. and it's not working. He doesn't get the business as well as Seth or Dean do, we know that based on some of the dumbass decisions he's made, so he's lost and frustrated that people won't just accept the forced push. No sympy. What does "get the business" mean? Given Roman's family background, I'd wager he has to have a decent understanding of how the wrestling business works. Isn't that kind of an unfair statement?
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Post by King Devitt on Apr 28, 2018 7:54:02 GMT -5
Been all downhill since the Seth Cash In for Reigns He's headlined three Wrestlemanias since. If that's downhill, everyone else must be living in the molten core of the earth. And kicking out of FIVE F-5's (when it only took 3 to put Taker down) means that he also wasn't protected at WM in the loss, even after being busted open hardway. Nope, he's not being protected at all, and his poor championship challenge record means he wasn't handed accolade after accolade after accolade, had pushes and feuds sacrificed at his 3 year mega-push, and WM main event 4 times in a row. But he lost a lot of title matches over the years. Okay.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Apr 28, 2018 9:31:26 GMT -5
I said it before I like all three guys but they screwed up all three of them I'd say Rollins is in a better place right now than Reigns is. Rollins has regained his credibility and has become a reliable babyface workhorse that the crowd loves to see. He could easily slot into the company ace spot and people would buy it and want to see it. Even Ambrose might be to an extent. A long-term injury often resets the board in regards to credibility and such, but it's not like he was struggling that much with it before he got hurt. It wouldn't have been too much of a stretch to put Ambrose in that ace position if he just strung a few strong wins (both in matches and in feuds) together. Hell, if I only watched WWE and didn’t read dirtsheets, I would assume Rollins was being built up to face Lesnar out of all of those 3. The dude has had a clear redemption character arc. From beating his old master Triple H, repenting for his sins and apologizing to his friends, rebuilding the Shield, getting the curb stomp back, getting “Burn it Down” as a catchphrase, “Monday night Rollins”, the gauntlet match, winning the IC title. He’s established a deep, natural connection with the crowd and it’s showing. What’s Roman? “Commentators blow me, I win a lot and get my ass kicked at the same time?”
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 28, 2018 9:42:08 GMT -5
What’s Roman? “Commentators blow me, I win a lot and get my ass kicked at the same time?” Funnily enough, circumstances have actually led to a scenario where Reigns hasn't won a TV match in two months. He's only had the two matches since he won the Chamber match for the WM title shot, but it's still factually accurate.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 28, 2018 10:05:50 GMT -5
He's headlined three Wrestlemanias since. If that's downhill, everyone else must be living in the molten core of the earth. And kicking out of FIVE F-5's (when it only took 3 to put Taker down) means that he also wasn't protected at WM in the loss, even after being busted open hardway. Nope, he's not being protected at all, and his poor championship challenge record means he wasn't handed accolade after accolade after accolade, had pushes and feuds sacrificed at his 3 year mega-push, and WM main event 4 times in a row. But he lost a lot of title matches over the years. Okay. He’s clearly being protected, that’s not the issue. If WWE want him in that ace spot, they’re right to keep protecting him. They also should have given him a proper championship run by now if that’s their goal. Because they haven’t done that, he’s developing a choker aura and that in turn has amplified fan frustration towards him. I honestly believe Roman might be in a better position with crowds had he not only beaten Brock at Mania 31, but if he’d kept it until at least the end of 2015. He probably wouldn’t have 100% crowd approval, but that’s a tall order for most top wrestlers in 2018. IMO, if fans were given a period of time where Roman’s character just went on a long win streak with the belt, kicking everyone’s ass for a year, he would feel much more like the star the company wants him to be. He’s a big, tough, mean looking guy with power moves. That’s the character he should be cast as. Instead, they seem to want to give Roman “Daniel Bryan stories”, because they want Roman to be relatable for some reason. And they don’t fit him, because Bryan wrestles under 200 lb and he’s a speedy technician.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 28, 2018 10:16:36 GMT -5
They’ve broken the man
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 28, 2018 10:19:19 GMT -5
He looks like he was told by everyone in charge that he would be the next Austin/Rock/etc. and it's not working. He doesn't get the business as well as Seth or Dean do, we know that based on some of the dumbass decisions he's made, so he's lost and frustrated that people won't just accept the forced push. No sympy. What does "get the business" mean? Given Roman's family background, I'd wager he has to have a decent understanding of how the wrestling business works. Isn't that kind of an unfair statement? "I'll look tougher if I walk out of the Rumble after being taken out by the League of Nations. I don't need to be stretchered, that's for pussies." Roman doesn't get it. He doesn't know what he's doing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 10:22:52 GMT -5
And kicking out of FIVE F-5's (when it only took 3 to put Taker down) means that he also wasn't protected at WM in the loss, even after being busted open hardway. Nope, he's not being protected at all, and his poor championship challenge record means he wasn't handed accolade after accolade after accolade, had pushes and feuds sacrificed at his 3 year mega-push, and WM main event 4 times in a row. But he lost a lot of title matches over the years. Okay. He’s clearly being protected, that’s not the issue. If WWE want him in that ace spot, they’re right to keep protecting him. They also should have given him a proper championship run by now if that’s their goal. Because they haven’t done that, he’s developing a choker aura and that in turn has amplified fan frustration towards him. I honestly believe Roman might be in a better position with crowds had he not only beaten Brock at Mania 31, but if he’d kept it until at least the end of 2015. He probably wouldn’t have 100% crowd approval, but that’s a tall order for most top wrestlers in 2018. IMO, if fans were given a period of time where Roman’s character just went on a long win streak with the belt, kicking everyone’s ass for a year, he would feel much more like the star the company wants him to be. He’s a big, tough, mean looking guy with power moves. That’s the character he should be cast as. Instead, they seem to want to give Roman “Daniel Bryan stories”, because they want Roman to be relatable for some reason. And they don’t fit him, because Bryan wrestles under 200 lb and he’s a speedy technician. Yeah you pretty much have to do one or the other too. You can't half ass it match to match. Else it looks goofy like it is now. This would be like if Cena failed to beat JBL at wrestlemania 21 and then he pissed around beating everyone under JBL over and over. Then lost to JBL a couple more times.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 28, 2018 10:23:08 GMT -5
Dude needs a spell in the Lake Of Reincarnation.
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