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Post by héad.casé on May 13, 2018 11:56:31 GMT -5
Is there any part of you that wishes you would have had even a brief run as a heel, and how do you feel you would've fared in that role? "I'll tell you a true story. Back in '91, I went to Vince and Pat Patterson and asked to do a turn and they both shut me down without hesitation. They said it would not work, I was the premier babyface, and I told them that I've been in the ring with the best heels in the business. I actually believed that I could work as a heel because I've been in the ring with the best of them. They said bottom line, it would probably hurt your career and they shut it down. Now, at the time guys I was a bit turned off. I was a bit disgruntled because I wanted to be able to work as a heel. At that time, I had been in the business I was approaching around 17 years and I knew I was getting into the twilight of my career and I just wanted to be able to experience working on the dark side. Being able to feel what that's like and I was upset about not being able to do it at the time. Looking back at it now, I'm happy and pleased that they did talk me out of it and not allow it. Like you said earlier, one of the few guys in the business that wrestled close to 20 years actively and stayed the same way as he started in the business. There's just a few of us that have done that and I'm happy to say that I'm one of those few guys now. I reflect back and I'm happy that I was turned down." wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2018/0513/639832/ricky-steamboat-on-vince-mcmahon-instantly-shooting-down-his/ |
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Post by Mozenrath on May 13, 2018 11:59:31 GMT -5
"Steamboat, you're the consummate baby face. I can send you out to the ring with a chainsaw and you can cut off both of Hulk Hogan's arms, and the fans just wouldn't believe it." -Patterson, apparently.
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Post by Aceorton on May 13, 2018 12:24:11 GMT -5
So we were denied a Steamboat-Skinner double turn. GREAT. THANKS, VINCE.
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Post by Nosnorb on May 13, 2018 13:38:33 GMT -5
Apparently, he was supposed to turn heel in NWA-TNA during the storyline in which Ron Killings demanded a title match, but Ricky left.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 13, 2018 15:03:05 GMT -5
Ah, '91; they couldn't turn him because their "put scales on him and pretend he didn't used to wrestle here before" plans were just too damn big.
All seriousness, Ricky was just too good to turn.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 17:06:21 GMT -5
Ah, '91; they couldn't turn him because their "put scales on him and pretend he didn't used to wrestle here before" plans were just too damn big. All seriousness, Ricky was just too good to turn. Did he even do anything in ‘91? All I remember is him dressed like a dragon on the jobber shows and blowing fire. |
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Post by lildude8218 on May 13, 2018 18:54:46 GMT -5
Steamboat was going to get into a program with DiBiase but he gave notice. They wanted him to put over IRS and Undertaker on his way out, he refused, and got fired on the spot. Apparently he was promised a main event push when a spot opened up but he grew impatient and was pissed off about money.
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Post by somsta on May 13, 2018 19:18:36 GMT -5
Ah, '91; they couldn't turn him because their "put scales on him and pretend he didn't used to wrestle here before" plans were just too damn big. All seriousness, Ricky was just too good to turn. Did he even do anything in ‘91? All I remember is him dressed like a dragon on the jobber shows and blowing fire. You don’t remember his HUGE Summerlam 1991 match? The wind! The power! The fire! |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 21:31:43 GMT -5
I can't even imagine him as a heel. I have no idea how that could have been booked.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on May 14, 2018 0:55:43 GMT -5
Apparently he was promised a main event push when a spot opened up but he grew impatient and was pissed off about money. 30 years later we still get similar stories, but more prevalent due to social media. |
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 14, 2018 1:34:37 GMT -5
Kinda funny that a guy named Richard Blood never was a heel.
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Post by SmashTV on May 14, 2018 1:52:50 GMT -5
Kinda funny that a guy named Richard Blood never was a heel. Yeah, I always thought that his real name was not only a great name for a wrestler but a name that screamed heel. |
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Post by Mozenrath on May 14, 2018 2:39:04 GMT -5
Kinda funny that a guy named Richard Blood never was a heel. Yeah, I always thought that his real name was not only a great name for a wrestler but a name that screamed heel. Nothing gets heat with with the crowd like screaming Dick Blood. |
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Post by Mozenrath on May 14, 2018 2:41:18 GMT -5
Steamboat was going to get into a program with DiBiase but he gave notice. They wanted him to put over IRS and Undertaker on his way out, he refused, and got fired on the spot. Apparently he was promised a main event push when a spot opened up but he grew impatient and was pissed off about money. I wonder if some of this was also due to his wife of the time. I know she became increasingly involved with his business affairs, along with wanting to be involved with her on the air, seemingly, leading to the whole "Family Man" thing there were pushing for when he went to go feud with Flair, with the unfortunate side effect of making him look like a bit of a wiener next to the "cool" Flair. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 14, 2018 3:26:22 GMT -5
Did he even do anything in ‘91? All I remember is him dressed like a dragon on the jobber shows and blowing fire. You don’t remember his HUGE Summerlam 1991 match? The wind! The power! The fire! If only John Tenta was face at the time, would have loved a stable of Earth, Wind and Fire. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on May 14, 2018 3:40:11 GMT -5
You don’t remember his HUGE Summerlam 1991 match? The wind! The power! The fire! If only John Tenta was face at the time, would have loved a stable of Earth, Wind and Fire. Or you could have a stable with those three plus Typhoon and Bret Hart and they could be the Planeteers. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 14, 2018 11:45:14 GMT -5
If only John Tenta was face at the time, would have loved a stable of Earth, Wind and Fire. Or you could have a stable with those three plus Typhoon and Bret Hart and they could be the Planeteers. Paint up Luger as Captain Planet, it'd have done better than "Made in the USA" |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 13:39:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I always thought that his real name was not only a great name for a wrestler but a name that screamed heel. Nothing gets heat with with the crowd like screaming Dick Blood. ......my mind had someone managed to not see that in the earlier post, but yours not only did but had to share with us. Thanks.   |
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on May 14, 2018 14:45:06 GMT -5
A shame and a blessing that we never got the heel turn I suppose. I remember reading an article on the long defunct Wrestleline website where many journalists and aspiring wrestlers used to submit articles for. A wrestling trainee wrote an article about attending a Ricky Steamboat workshop and how Ricky would teach kids the art of selling and Ricky played the role of cowardly heel and the trainees were shocked at how good Ricky looked as a heel. I suppose that's the closest we'll ever get.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on May 14, 2018 20:30:29 GMT -5
Rick martel had a similar experience with Vince before his Model run.
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