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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 15, 2018 11:16:24 GMT -5
The most illegal of styles and mastered by Superstar Billy Graham let's talk about the use of "karate" in pro wrestling and how I don't think pro wrestling companies don't actually know what Karate is
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 12:31:45 GMT -5
Dude, as a judo guy it's even worse. The amount of times Ricky Steamboat would hit a chop and they'd declare it a JUDO CHOP! was endlessly frustrating.
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Post by MrElijah on May 15, 2018 12:44:36 GMT -5
Dude, as a judo guy it's even worse. The amount of times Ricky Steamboat would hit a chop and they'd declare it a JUDO CHOP! was endlessly frustrating. JR: Steamboat with those Karate Thrusts!! Let's not forget master martial artists Gorilla Monsoon and "Sweet" Stan Lane. |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 15, 2018 13:16:26 GMT -5
Dude, as a judo guy it's even worse. The amount of times Ricky Steamboat would hit a chop and they'd declare it a JUDO CHOP! was endlessly frustrating. Wasn't that a gag from Austin Powers? |
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Post by James Fabiano on May 15, 2018 14:41:56 GMT -5
I am on a kick watching it and all, but Cobra Kai would have been a great heel stable.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 16:27:06 GMT -5
All I know is that Jerry Flynn’s karate was no match for Goldberg. Dude racked up the wins against the master of Mullet-Do
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on May 15, 2018 16:33:34 GMT -5
Dude, as a judo guy it's even worse. The amount of times Ricky Steamboat would hit a chop and they'd declare it a JUDO CHOP! was endlessly frustrating. Like, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm an absolute dilletante in terms of practical martial arts, but striking in general isn't even a big part of judo, yes, let alone dedicated judo chops? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 16:37:32 GMT -5
Dude, as a judo guy it's even worse. The amount of times Ricky Steamboat would hit a chop and they'd declare it a JUDO CHOP! was endlessly frustrating. Like, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm an absolute dilletante in terms of practical martial arts, but striking in general isn't even a big part of judo, yes, let alone dedicated judo chops? you are correct, that was the whole point of the Austin Powers "Judo Chop" gag.... there are no strikes in judo. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 17:18:12 GMT -5
Dude, as a judo guy it's even worse. The amount of times Ricky Steamboat would hit a chop and they'd declare it a JUDO CHOP! was endlessly frustrating. Like, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm an absolute dilletante in terms of practical martial arts, but striking in general isn't even a big part of judo, yes, let alone dedicated judo chops? Exactly. Pedantic jerks will tell you it existed in like, really old manuals of the sport or as part of the kata you learn as part of it but yeah it's a throwing and submission art. |
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on May 15, 2018 17:21:52 GMT -5
Dude, as a judo guy it's even worse. The amount of times Ricky Steamboat would hit a chop and they'd declare it a JUDO CHOP! was endlessly frustrating. Like, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm an absolute dilletante in terms of practical martial arts, but striking in general isn't even a big part of judo, yes, let alone dedicated judo chops? Sorta. There is Atemi-Waza, but that isn't used in competitions, only specific Kata and self-defense training. |
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on May 16, 2018 1:49:28 GMT -5
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 16, 2018 1:55:14 GMT -5
One of Chris Champion's many gimmicks (Yoshi Kwan, Kowabunga, etc) was the Karate Kid. In Florida I think. Maybe Crockett early on.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 2:10:18 GMT -5
I think it's at Great American Bash 89.
Cornette on commentary for the Muta match. "Karate chop! Or, Judo chop, I should say".
Yeah.
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Post by freshxchampion on May 16, 2018 12:54:20 GMT -5
Has anyone used a "McDojo instructor" gimmick? I feel like that'd generate some heat. Talented yet delusional martial artist who thinks his style is above all. Resorts to non-traditional methods when he starts losing. It would be like the Cobra Kai dude combined with Jean Claude Van Damme's character in No Retreat No Surrender(I hope someone remembers that movie).
I kinda think it's funny how the martial arts gimmick is presented as dangerous, but with all good reason. It's a wrestler with a different style. However, if we apply the concepts of what we know now from mixed martial arts to say the mid to late 1980s pro-wrestling scene, get a takedown on the Great Muta, Kabuki, or even Hiro Matsuda. I know, easier said than done.
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Post by Gremlin on May 16, 2018 22:18:15 GMT -5
My knowledge of karate is limited to back leg front kicks and educated feet.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 16, 2018 22:25:08 GMT -5
Has anyone used a "McDojo instructor" gimmick? I feel like that'd generate some heat. Talented yet delusional martial artist who thinks his style is above all. Resorts to non-traditional methods when he starts losing. It would be like the Cobra Kai dude combined with Jean Claude Van Damme's character in No Retreat No Surrender(I hope someone remembers that movie). I kinda think it's funny how the martial arts gimmick is presented as dangerous, but with all good reason. It's a wrestler with a different style. However, if we apply the concepts of what we know now from mixed martial arts to say the mid to late 1980s pro-wrestling scene, get a takedown on the Great Muta, Kabuki, or even Hiro Matsuda. I know, easier said than done. This sounds kinda like Jeff Jarrett's MMA heel gimmick, so in other words, that'd probably work well. |
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Post by Redbeard's Ghost on May 17, 2018 0:53:37 GMT -5
As a kid, the evolution of Superstar Billy Graham into the Karate master Billy Graham baffled me. I grew up watching him in the WWWF in the mid-late 70's, and he was just oozing charisma. A few years later, I turned on the 6:05p TBS show and couldn't understand what I was watching.
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