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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 19, 2018 21:04:50 GMT -5
Never cared about her. She was just a body. She couldn't talk and she couldn't work. Just a cheap pop.
My favorite part about the lawsuit was Jim Ross threatening XPac that they were gonna take DNA samples from the piece of shit that was dumped in her bag, Waltman laughed because he imagined everyone having to take a shit in a bucket.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 22:52:52 GMT -5
The explosion of Sable in the late 90âs kinda baffled me I was a young man that enjoyed boobs at a totally acceptable level maybe a tad more but she didnât do much for me she was late 80âs hair metal video babe hot,she was a terrible promo with a annoying voice and she suffered from Mandy Rose Disease in that she was a Pretty girl that when she just stands there wearing very little sheâs hot but when she tries to be sexy itâs a failure.
I thought at the same time Sunny was way hotter and actually had talent she could cut a promo,manage,do commentary,be sexy or host a show I canât imagine Sable doing commentary or hosting a show.
All I remember from her brief wcw appearance was afterwards word was Hulk Hogan wanted her to be his red,white and blue bikini babe girlfriend at the time when he was bringing back the red and yellow for another run at the top,Brother.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on May 19, 2018 22:55:41 GMT -5
Never saw the appeal of her and never found her attractive. She was a "change the channel" part of the Monday Night Wars for me. Needless to say, I was not happy when she returned.
If Brock asks....she was a very vital and enjoyable part of the program Mr. Lesnar.
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Post by agent817 on May 20, 2018 1:00:35 GMT -5
I had a crush on her, I will say that, but in hindsight, I really don't think she was all that like how she was presented as. When Trish came on the scene, I can see she was all that.
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Post by Ryushinku on May 20, 2018 8:08:40 GMT -5
Seems this may not be the place for it, then, but it'd be interesting to hear from the people that did like her in her first fun.
Because she was over huge. This is feeling a bit Vanilla Ice all over again...SOMEone was buying those cds!
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Post by PKO on May 20, 2018 9:47:31 GMT -5
It's more controversial on the internet to claim you DID find Sable attractive! Whether it's 90's or 2000's Sable, I found her very attractive. Probably in my top 10 of all time when it comes to women in wrestling. At times the styling of her wasn't great (and I preferred it when she reduced her implants to a less balloon like size) but she had a magnetism about her that others like JR, Pritchard and Russo have all talked about. She always gets compared to Sunny, because of the time period, and I thought she blew her out the water. It might be because I know what a horrible person Sunny is that alters the fact, but I'd much rather see Sable than Sunny.
Her first run was before I started watching, but I've seen it in the years since. It's a mixed bag; she starts off being booked very well, and then the sleazy booking starts to creep in. I think talent wise, she's ok. She's no Meryl Streep but her acting isn't the worst in wrestling history, she performs the material well enough, and most of her matches are well choreographed (with the exception of her last two against Ivory and Tori, absolute stinkers).
Her second run was when I had become hooked on wrestling, and the first time I saw her. Damn, young teen me loved some Sable. She has the hot older woman vibe going on in her second run, which is still rare in wrestling. The feud with Torrie was fun but fizzles out, and the feud with Stephanie was good. Then she's just kind of around for a while, then disappears.
She gets a really bad reputation because those that hated her REALLY hated her, but I saw someone elsewhere bring up a very good point about that. Who hated her the most? Sunny and Cornette, not known for their cheery dispositions. Many wrestlers have gone on record saying she was fine, just quiet, kept to herself and not really clued up on the business. The locker room she was in was during the 90's was filled with wild shenanigans, drug taking, childish behaviour...it's no wonder she got a negative reputation with some. She doesn't come across like Mother Theresa, but I think the hatred for her is over played.
The lawsuit? Bad timing and a stupid amount of money, but I doubt she was the one personally asking for it. From what I remember of the lawsuit, I think she was telling the truth, and they ended up settling out of court so WWE knew she had some points. Other lawsuits like Nicole Bass they fought tooth and nail to the very end to discredit her, but with Sable they seemed more focused on keeping her quiet.
The WCW deal was just a one off appearance; they wanted to capitalise on the drama surrounding a very popular star leaving, and she got to make a good lump of money by just sitting in the crowd. I don't think she had any interest in going there at the time, but I believe there were some negotiations before WCW folded.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on May 20, 2018 12:05:07 GMT -5
Obviously thereâs a lot of what Sable represents thatâs woefully outdated now, but she was smartly booked for most of her late â90s run. Probably one of the best examples of that era on how booking can matter so much in getting a character over.
She didnât stand out much in her 03-04 run, outside of her whole âfemme fatale in a late night Cinemax filmâ vibe.
Question: how long does it take for the womenâs division to come back into the fold if Sable wasnât popular?
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Post by 06vwgti on May 20, 2018 12:14:59 GMT -5
I was never a fan, started watching during the summer of 98 during the Sable Jacqueline feud. For some I was more of a fan of Jacqueline in that feud. Go figure. Rewatching the material then, the stuff didn't really age well at all and sable's acting was pretty horrible.
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Post by lookout on May 20, 2018 14:48:57 GMT -5
Controversial opinion: even as a horny teenager, I never saw what the fuss was about when it came to Sable. Cold, dead eyes and a bad boob job and she couldn't even make up for it with any kind of talent either. In the nineties you could perhaps argue that there were relatively slim pickings when it came to women in the WWF but by 2003 there were loads who blew her out of the water in just about every way. I can see why Luna was so pissed off with the way WWF bowed down to her. I didn't see what everyone else did either. She wasn't that attractive to me either and she always came across as someone who legit thought she was better than everyone else. The absurd degree she would strip down on national television came across to me as someone incredibly desperate for as much attention as possible. She really annoyed me every time she was on. I just couldn't understand why everyone loved her so much and i still don't.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 21, 2018 4:08:02 GMT -5
Honestly I think Marc Mero deserves some props for making her look even remotely decent. He managed to basically power bomb himself to put her over, more than once.
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Post by auph10imitated on May 21, 2018 4:35:02 GMT -5
It was quite amusing that they made her do all the story-lines she actually sued them for, lesbian angle with Torrie Wilson, she had her top ripped off and exposed her breasts, a relationship with Vince etc, its like they were definatley screwing with her.
I was very surprised they took her back, and also that she wanted to go back and that she approached them as well
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 21, 2018 6:14:19 GMT -5
She was attractive, but literally any attractive blonde similarly built and pushed could have filled her role and been similarly popular. Barely noticed when she left, wasn't that aware of the lawsuit, when she came back it was like "oh, she's back" She still was an attractive woman who couldn't really wrestle or act
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Post by auph10imitated on May 21, 2018 8:53:37 GMT -5
She was terrible on the mic, she had a monotone voice. I was a fan though, her feuds with Luna & Jackie were great fun, but she was limited in the ring. Her match with Ivory on RAW was absolutely horrific, she was best in mixed tags were she could just do the hot tag spot.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 11:40:52 GMT -5
What was amazing was she was a huge ratings draw in 98 at the time the biggest ratings movers were Austin,Sable,Flair and Goldberg then a few months into 99 she was gone and there wasnât any outcry for this huge star to return she was gone and everyone moved on.She thought she was a huge talent and a star and it was all her and sheâd go on to be a huge movie star but the people didnât care about Rena Mero they cared about Sable but not really that much they only seemed to care about sableâs boobs possibly being exposed on wwf tv but once she did playboy that was kinda it.
What was weird was she claimed some horrible things about wwf making it seem like working there was a living hell then less than a year later in 2000 he was begging for wwf to take her back because Hollywood wasnât knocking down her door and wwf said no because they didnât need her.Iâll give her credit within a month of returning she went from looking like Torrie Wilsonâs mom to her body looking unbelievable in the judgement day bikini contest.The 2003 run seemed more of a punishment and Vince who lusted after her for years finally getting her to do some lewd acts like the lesbian stuff with Torrie,Kissing and being felt up by 1 legged teenager and then the Vince angle.
As for the poster that said it must be controversial to find her attractive she just never did anything for me I thought Sunny was way more talented and hotter during her 1st run and her 2003 run Trish,Torrie,Stacy,Dawn all blew her out of the water IMO but different stokes for different folks.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on May 21, 2018 12:15:25 GMT -5
It was quite amusing that they made her do all the story-lines she actually sued them for, lesbian angle with Torrie Wilson, she had her top ripped off and exposed her breasts, a relationship with Vince etc, its like they were definatley screwing with her. I was very surprised they took her back, and also that she wanted to go back and that she approached them as well This. Everything she did not want to do in 1999 she did in 2003, including baring her breasts on WWE Tv. Even Marc Mero was surprised Sable wanted to go back in 2003. She must've had her eye on Brock Lesnar from the beginning.
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Post by The Barber on May 22, 2018 8:09:34 GMT -5
Seems this may not be the place for it, then, but it'd be interesting to hear from the people that did like her in her first fun. Because she was over huge. This is feeling a bit Vanilla Ice all over again...SOMEone was buying those cds! I was a teenager at the time and a huge Sable mark. She wasn't the greatest promo cutter, but that didn't stop the Ultimate Warrior's popularity, either. I found her attractive and would watch her every time she was on TV.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on May 22, 2018 9:38:41 GMT -5
Honestly, had WWF had gotten Torrie first, Sable would have never been thing.
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Post by auph10imitated on May 22, 2018 10:58:13 GMT -5
Obviously thereâs a lot of what Sable represents thatâs woefully outdated now, but she was smartly booked for most of her late â90s run. Probably one of the best examples of that era on how booking can matter so much in getting a character over. She didnât stand out much in her 03-04 run, outside of her whole âfemme fatale in a late night Cinemax filmâ vibe. Question: how long does it take for the womenâs division to come back into the fold if Sable wasnât popular? This is a good question, because honestly it may never have come back until Rousey became popular Because they did bring the title back as a prop for Sable, not because they wanted a thriving female wrestling division. So if they didnt then wrestlers like Luna and Jacqueline would have just remained in valet roles were they had been comfortable for years. Ivory and Tori wouldnt have been hired, and then going on further Lita may not have been hired. I think it was Lita's flashy moves in ECW that got her noticed. I think Trish would have been hired bit they would have left her in a managing role. So really, without bringing that title back as a prop for Sable, it set of a chain of hirings.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on May 22, 2018 12:30:35 GMT -5
Pretty much the 2003 version of "It's...Christian", except people actually wanted Christian back.
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Post by edgestar on May 22, 2018 12:35:16 GMT -5
Honestly, had WWF had gotten Torrie first, Sable would have never been thing. Wasn't that the name of the hand, in the Addams Family?
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