Roman's Workrate

[SirLucas]

I am not sure if this is being discussed before, but I am a fan of his work rate.  I feel he has amazing agility for her size, especially the way he connects with the Superman punch and the dive to the outside. And time and time again, he has proven that he can go in the ring.


I wouldn't say the heat Roman gets is necessary "go away" heat but more so of the fans wanting to tell creative, "We want Roman as our villain to boo and not out hero to cheer."

[Mozenrath]

I think Roman wasn't really ready for a singles push when he got it, but that hasn't been an issue for me for a while.

Now, I think his biggest problem is he needs to expand his moveset a little, be less "spam the superman punch" heavy, if we're talking strictly his workrate. Obviously, Roman has a lot of other problems in terms of presentation, booking, etc.

[Mister Pigwell]

Just concentrating on his matches and nothing else, he's still really lacking to me.
Spends most of his time laying on his side like Dead Yamcha. His spear and superman punch aren't lead up to or worked for, they're both used as desperation moves. Doesn't really have a lot of offense in general.

For me he does best in gimmick matches (his stuff with Big Show is my favorite that Roman has done) where he can do his Yamcha impersonation on the floor out of the way, or use weapons or whatever to actually play up one of his few strengths. I'm not even kidding, I feel he would have been better in classic ECW than where is in the here and now. He has a lot of those guys same strengths and weaknesses that Heyman was so good at accentuating or hiding accordingly.

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

I don't know about workrate, but he definitely has an infinite special bar.

[captainhindsite]

May 21, 2018 16:12:17 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

Just concentrating on his matches and nothing else, he's still really lacking to me.
Spends most of his time laying on his side like Dead Yamcha. His spear and superman punch aren't lead up to or worked for, they're both used as desperation moves. Doesn't really have a lot of offense in general.

For me he does best in gimmick matches (his stuff with Big Show is my favorite that Roman has done) where he can do his Yamcha impersonation on the floor out of the way, or use weapons or whatever to actually play up one of his few strengths. I'm not even kidding, I feel he would have been better in classic ECW than where is in the here and now. He has a lot of those guys same strengths and weaknesses that Heyman was so good at accentuating or hiding accordingly.

If we are talking classic ecw him in a tag with rhyno. Then a fued between the two would of rocked.

[Cyno]

May 21, 2018 16:03:34 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

I think Roman wasn't really ready for a singles push when he got it, but that hasn't been an issue for me for a while.

Now, I think his biggest problem is he needs to expand his moveset a little, be less "spam the superman punch" heavy, if we're talking strictly his workrate. Obviously, Roman has a lot of other problems in terms of presentation, booking, etc.

I think that's part of what made him work better as a team specialist/as part of the Shield. Dean and Seth could do most of the heavy lifting in terms of workrate and spending most of the time in the ring, while Roman goes in as the power guy to lay waste to dudes with spear and Superman punch spots. None of his matches since have really impressed me as far as singles stuff goes. He just spams the same move over and over again. Even John Cena at his five moves of doom worst still told a story with his matches.

[Toilet Paper Roll]

What's all the talk about his height and weight and being a "big guy". Even WWE lists him at one inch and 12 pounds heavier than Shelton Benjamin.

What's to say about his work rate? He gets beaten on most of the match before answering back with a ridiculous looking punch or his running hug maneuver.

He then holds his ribs for a few seconds.. get off the mat and climbs the turnbuckle and holds his fist up.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Roman is a dude with a lot of talent who's stuck working a crappy style and boxed into a role where he's not allowed to do much of anything else. "WWE style" is still a thing, but it's one that has been dramatically eased up on and reduced in the past few years, but with Roman, he's working a caricature of that style and not much else. It's a disservice to him, really.

[Hit Girl]

Meaningless without proper booking.

[Deleted]

May 21, 2018 16:35:44 GMT -5 Toilet Paper Roll said:

What's all the talk about his height and weight and being a "big guy". Even WWE lists him at one inch and 12 pounds heavier than Shelton Benjamin.

What's to say about his work rate? He gets beaten on most of the match before answering back with a ridiculous looking punch or his running hug maneuver.

He then holds his ribs for a few seconds.. get off the mat and climbs the turnbuckle and holds his fist up.

I'm a fan of his but this is very true.

They present him as a powerhouse, but really he only works his glam muscles. You need thickness to be a powerhouse and he has a bit of chunk (i dont think his vest is hiding moobs and a gut, like most here seem to) but nowhere near a Lashley, Brock, Matt Morgan etc.

He is that awkard middle ground where his body can't lend itself to flippy stuff, and he either can't, or chooses not to tack on muscle mass for the heavy lifting. I think it makes it difficult to give him a proper move set. They are setting him up for failure when all of his matches recently have been superman punches and spears. As fans it comes off as he doesn't know how to wrestle, and in kayfabe his 2 signature moves connect 10+ times to put someone away.

I also blame recent roh for the backyard wrestling "I'm so cool i do all the big finishers as normal moves, so does my opponent and we kick out of everything to point of exhaustion" mindset thats bleeding into wwe.

[A Platypus Rave]

May 21, 2018 16:12:17 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

Just concentrating on his matches and nothing else, he's still really lacking to me.
Spends most of his time laying on his side like Dead Yamcha. His spear and superman punch aren't lead up to or worked for, they're both used as desperation moves. Doesn't really have a lot of offense in general.

For me he does best in gimmick matches (his stuff with Big Show is my favorite that Roman has done) where he can do his Yamcha impersonation on the floor out of the way, or use weapons or whatever to actually play up one of his few strengths. I'm not even kidding, I feel he would have been better in classic ECW than where is in the here and now. He has a lot of those guys same strengths and weaknesses that Heyman was so good at accentuating or hiding accordingly.

Yeah... as a singles wrestler... he's a hell of a hot tag guy.

But I disagree on that Big Show last man standing match I found that pretty boring personally...

[Deleted]

I think he's capable of having good matches, but the vast majority of them are booked to be boring as hell. Then again, you can also say that about so many others.

I honestly can't remember the last Roman singles match that I liked. I've seen Ambrose get some shit as a wrestler, but Roman is far and away the least interesting Shield guy to watch for me.

[Deleted]

Dude’s matches are like a video game where the other guy just spams his special moves and finisher just to piss you off. Which is unfortunate because he is capable of having good matches with the right opponent.

[romanstylesiii]

I don't think anything wrong with him has anything to do with him personally

[King Devitt]

Of course he's good at connecting the Superman Punch, he uses it 75 times during every match.

You use something that much you're bound to get good at it.

[Deleted]

Roman is good to very good, with some exceptions. Most of his problems, specifically an over-reliance on finishers and a lack of selling, are problems inherent to the WWE style; you can't single Roman out for those issues and not similarly drag Rollins, Charlotte or whoever else.

[Mozenrath]

I feel like every top guy needs a submission move, but him moreso than most. I feel like a Cobra Clutch would really do him some wonders.
It's easy to use.
It's easy to get both guys' faces on camera, which is always a plus.
You can combo into it and reverse out of it quite well.
It can be teased.
It's safe but still looks credible.
You can "knock guys out" with it if you don't want them tapping.

It'd be like when they gave Khali the vice grip, where it let him actually cover up his weaknesses much better than the choke bomb and brain chop did.

[mcstoklasa]

He just does running attacks

[Mozenrath]

May 21, 2018 18:09:01 GMT -5 mcstoklasa said:

He just does running attacks

That's one of my bigger issues with him in the ring. I like the Superman Punch, and I like the spear, but when you're doing both, it's the same setup and makes me wonder why you wouldn't do your finish.

It's like when Bobby Eaton would do the top rope knee drop. Cool move, but why not just Alabama Jam while you're at it?

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May 21, 2018 18:13:06 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

May 21, 2018 18:09:01 GMT -5 mcstoklasa said:

He just does running attacks

That's one of my bigger issues with him in the ring. I like the Superman Punch, and I like the spear, but when you're doing both, it's the same setup and makes me wonder why you wouldn't do your finish.

It's like when Bobby Eaton would do the top rope knee drop. Cool move, but why not just Alabama Jam while you're at it?

Too late now, but the Spear shouldn't have been his finish.