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Post by repomark on May 24, 2018 12:56:28 GMT -5
I was always baffled by Asuka losing at Mania to Charlotte. Made so little sense in that the money match was right there of undefeated Asuka vs Ronda Rousey.
I just had an epiphany that perhaps the decision was entirely around needing Ronda to have an undefeated streak? Maybe she is the one to have a streak and Asuka would have hurt it by having another one?
I am totally trying to work out idiot thinking but yeah
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on May 24, 2018 12:57:15 GMT -5
Nah, I figure it had more to do with them wanting to build New Orleans as the place where streaks go to die.
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Post by Dub H on May 24, 2018 12:58:26 GMT -5
Almost everything points to thatm,they want Rhonda to be the dominant one.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 13:01:41 GMT -5
I really figure it's more that they didn't want it ending via cash-in, wanted the belt on Carmella, and were tired of it being an albatross.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 24, 2018 13:01:41 GMT -5
Whatever the case is she had been needed to have the streak over with
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 24, 2018 13:02:29 GMT -5
I really figure it's more that they didn't want it ending via cash-in, wanted the belt on Carmella, and were tired of it being an albatross. And if your going to have her lose, having her lose to Charlotte at Mania isn't a bad idea
Imagine if they went through with her and Alexa and they kept the title on her
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Post by Sephiroth on May 24, 2018 13:11:36 GMT -5
Charlotte made asmuch sense as anyone to be able to beat Asuka and end the streak-but still, the overwhelmingly obvious answer would have been to have given that rub to someone who needed it, and Charlotte certainly did not.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 24, 2018 13:15:57 GMT -5
If you're not going to make the end of the streak into something substantive then don't do the weird "she beats Ember, then drops the title, then Ember wins the title in another match" shit in NXT though. I don't mind it ending, I just think that having a streak for the sake of having a streak, then ending the streak just for the sake of ending a streak, is really f***ing dumb.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 13:22:35 GMT -5
Nah, I figure it had more to do with them wanting to build New Orleans as the place where streaks go to die. They really should have pushed that I don’t think they’ve mentioned that once. I figured they don’t like Asuka being undefeated because that handicaps them in their minds plus Asuka isn’t a good promo and had a terrible promo a couple weeks before mania where time stood still and I bet they soured on her in that capacity and figure Charlotte vs Ronda would be a bigger deal and they could both do media with no worries.I like Asuka vs Ronda at mania battle of the undefeated streaks because I’d want Ronda in there with someone that can have good matches with anybody instead of Charlotte while talented she can’t carry anybody.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 13:27:23 GMT -5
I actually feel like Asuka is nothing special at all without the streak. I like her, but to me she's now just a pretty good worker and brings nothing else to the table that makes me want to watch a story involving her.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on May 24, 2018 14:06:54 GMT -5
What a great moment that could have been if it wasn't given to one of the most terminally dull folks on the whole roster.
Like, even Carmella would have been better, because at least she'd be able to get some Heyman style heat out of it.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 14:13:49 GMT -5
The worst part wasn’t even her losing, it was her after the match basically saying “Charlotte you’re better than me” and then John Cena sprints by to go backstage.
I think that it would have been better to have her win the title, she can lose the rematch to Charlotte(at which point Carmella can cash in on Charlotte, I mean she had like 2-3 months left before it expired); then Asuka and Charlotte can have the final match in a trilogy before they both go after Carmella.
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Post by sportatorium on May 24, 2018 14:16:29 GMT -5
I actually feel like Asuka is nothing special at all without the streak. I like her, but to me she's now just a pretty good worker and brings nothing else to the table that makes me want to watch a story involving her. This is the problem with winning streak angles. It takes over character development. In this case it really did nothing. Charlotte is the #1 Babyface on Smackdown while Asuka is #2. Since they are both faces, Charlotte never rubs it in or cuts promos with it. The poster is exactly right, they give us no reason to want to watch Asuka unless we find Carmella to be a pest heel. They’ll try to return to it right as they turn Charlotte heel to set up the Rousey match, but too much time will have passed by then.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 24, 2018 14:17:08 GMT -5
Charlotte is the Queen, I'm all for giving her clout. But damn, she didn't need this one.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on May 24, 2018 14:23:19 GMT -5
I really figure it's more that they didn't want it ending via cash-in, wanted the belt on Carmella, and were tired of it being an albatross. Pretty much this. If they would've just had Carmella cash in and win the title in the summer-fall instead doing that pointless Natalya reign it wouldn't have been a problem. Instead they just kept holding off on it until it became a problem.
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Post by MrElijah on May 24, 2018 14:27:11 GMT -5
If they needed to do an successful Cash-In.....
-Carmella runs in from the crowd during the match, say after a spot both Flair and Asuka are down. -Mella cashes in making a match a Triple Threat -She hits both Asuka and Charlotte with Brass Knuckles and pins Charlotte -Carmella hauls ass to the parking lot.
'Mella gets heat for stealing the belt and screwing both Asuka & Charlotte.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 24, 2018 14:39:56 GMT -5
What a great moment that could have been if it wasn't given to one of the most terminally dull folks on the whole roster. Like, even Carmella would have been better, because at least she'd be able to get some Heyman style heat out of it. I still think Carmella cashing in after the Charlotte match was the way to go. Asuka is still dominant but doesn't have the albatross of ALWAYS needing to win. Carmella gets to have heel heat of being the one to beat Asuka that she can have as a feather in her cap forever... when everyone knows she did it in a cheap way.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 24, 2018 16:20:35 GMT -5
I actually think it's not even a petty reason or a misguided one but a stupid one.
I think they knew booking her with that streak had booked them into a corner once she started wrestling on a weekly basis, and rather than actually build it up well and put someone over and make a big deal out of it, they hot-shotted it almost immediately so that they could start booking her with the same 50/50 bullshit everyone else has been getting.
'So Asuka pins Charlotte once and then Charlotte pins her and then the title match at the PPV is a DQ...' 'No no no we can't do that, Asuka doesn't lose.' 'Well shit, son, she's on the main roster now, she has to lose half her matches! We'd better job her out at the earliest possible point...'
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Post by thelonewolf527 on May 24, 2018 16:57:43 GMT -5
The money match is Charlotte vs Ronda
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Post by Jiren on May 24, 2018 17:52:33 GMT -5
I'd keep the way Carmella win the title but switch Asuka with Charlotte.
Kay, Royce & Carmella would get a lot of good heat out of that.
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