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Post by Yacht Persona on May 25, 2018 8:37:25 GMT -5
I may be in the minority here, but I'm kind of getting tired of former MMA fighters coming into the 'E and simply being given the gimmick of an MMA fighter. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if it was just maybe one or two, but there are currently four wrestlers in NXT and on the main roster with their only character being that of a former MMA fighter, unless you want to argue that Bork is more than that. It could just be me, and maybe this trend is a replacement for the myriad of "karate" wrestlers from back in the day such as Steve Blackman and Ernest Miller, and the occasional "educated feet" of guys like X-Pac and CM Punk. I don't even remember a "shoot fighter" gimmick before guys like Taz and Ken Shamrock, and perhaps Dan Severn. But now with two more women being brought into the next Mae Young Classic with MMA backgrounds, I don't see this going away. If anything, it's going to become more prevalent as there is more of an obsession now of having wrestlers with "legitimate backgrounds." I've never cared for that idea. Wrestling to me is over-the-top gimmicks and colorful characters, not legit fighters. I'm not accusing them of trying to be more friendly to UFC fans, but if that is the case, I don't foresee it working out.
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Post by The Spelunker! on May 25, 2018 9:27:49 GMT -5
I think we need to go full original UFC and give a bunch of wrestlers gimmicks like Karate guy, Sambo expert, and bring in Sumo Guy for a big push.
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Post by A damn road sign on May 25, 2018 9:33:06 GMT -5
Christ, I got sick and tired very quickly of hearing how every third woman had "a martial arts background" or a “striking style.“ 😴 More like the MMAe Young Classic. Bore off with that.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 25, 2018 9:37:42 GMT -5
I love having some martial arts flavoring in my wrestling. It is one reason I'm so drawn to NJPW.
As long as the people have more going on than ONLY the fact that they have an MMA background, I think it is okay.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on May 25, 2018 9:38:41 GMT -5
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on May 25, 2018 9:55:52 GMT -5
I agree. The only one I was into was Shamrock (and maybe just cos I was kid who bought into everything although he did come across as a crazy tough guy). Putting on those little padded gloves doesn't count as a gimmick or make your intimidating. It's very lazy.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 25, 2018 9:59:16 GMT -5
I think we need to go full original UFC and give a bunch of wrestlers gimmicks like Karate guy, Sambo expert, and bring in Sumo Guy for a big push. I want a guy whose gimmick is just being Harold Howard and whose goal is to "bring the karate aspect back into jiu-jitsu".
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Post by Pooh Carlson on May 25, 2018 11:29:14 GMT -5
It's better than Undertaker's wannabe MMA bull crap.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 11:38:13 GMT -5
HHH has done Papa Inoki proud with this faux MMA bullshit.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 25, 2018 11:48:55 GMT -5
It's better than Undertaker's wannabe MMA bull crap. Who are you to doubt the best pure striker in WWE.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 25, 2018 11:57:35 GMT -5
HHH has done Papa Inoki proud with this faux MMA bullshit. He hasn't done Inoki proud until someone does Inoki's blasphemous-ass entrance (exit, actually) from "Dream Genki" MMA show.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 25, 2018 13:40:01 GMT -5
HHH has done Papa Inoki proud with this faux MMA bullshit. He hasn't done Inoki proud until someone does Inoki's blasphemous-ass entrance (exit, actually) from "Dream Genki" MMA show. What do you think his plan for Mania next year is?
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Post by Push R Truth on May 25, 2018 13:55:12 GMT -5
I don't mind it at all as long as they stay far far away from the "I fought for REAL" aspect of it
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on May 25, 2018 13:56:13 GMT -5
I believed Ken Shamrock and Dan Severn and that is about it
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Post by thetower52 on May 25, 2018 14:02:59 GMT -5
I f***ing hate it. If I wanted to watch MMA I’d watching f***ing MMA
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Post by KobashiChop on May 25, 2018 14:27:34 GMT -5
Im ok with it. There isnt really anyone with MMA as a gimmick bar Rousey.
Shayna has MMA leanings in her moveset but her gear isnt MMA influenced.
Lashley isnt doing anything MMA related.
Kyle O Reilly is still essentially a pro wrestler just with some Jiu Jitsu and kickboxing influence.
I like wrestlers with striking styles tbh.
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Post by Nosnorb on May 25, 2018 14:30:20 GMT -5
Im ok with it. There isnt really anyone with MMA as a gimmick bar Rousey. Shayna has MMA leanings in her moveset but her gear isnt MMA influenced. Lashley isnt doing anything MMA related. Kyle O Reilly is still essentially a pro wrestler just with some Jiu Jitsu and kickboxing influence. I like wrestlers with striking styles tbh. Err........you forgot Brock.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on May 25, 2018 14:33:55 GMT -5
I'm alright with it being a style someone has, sort of like high flier or technical are styles wrestlers fall under, but I don't need everyone who is styled that way to look the same. Kind of why I hope Ronda goes further into the Rowdy Piper look some more. Helps her stand out from Sonya and Brock.
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Post by KobashiChop on May 25, 2018 14:37:00 GMT -5
Im ok with it. There isnt really anyone with MMA as a gimmick bar Rousey. Shayna has MMA leanings in her moveset but her gear isnt MMA influenced. Lashley isnt doing anything MMA related. Kyle O Reilly is still essentially a pro wrestler just with some Jiu Jitsu and kickboxing influence. I like wrestlers with striking styles tbh. Err........you forgot Brock. Ah yes, the quintessential MMA gimmick, "fights once every 4 months". Probably why I forgot him.
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Post by MrElijah on May 25, 2018 16:01:34 GMT -5
Honestly MMA and Wrestling doesn't always mix well(see Inoki-Ism) but certain guys do bring the goods: Suzuki, Shamrock, Sevren.
One of my favorite MMA styles deals was the Owen vs. Shamrock feud. The Dungeon Match was a great blend of Shoot Style, Rasslin and Sports Entertainment.
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