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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jun 28, 2018 14:16:49 GMT -5
A few sources so far saying that he passed today
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 28, 2018 14:26:45 GMT -5
SHIT!
Sure he was a angry asshole. But he was also a great writer. I was just thinking the other day that he wasn't going to live much longer.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jun 28, 2018 14:29:10 GMT -5
However prickly Ellison could be, the man was a hell of a author, and rarely wavered in his defense of writers as well as good science fiction.
There's countless stuff of his worth checking out, but the TOS episode "City on the Edge of Forever" even with the changes from Ellison's script, is still a masterstroke of brilliant television.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jun 28, 2018 14:48:24 GMT -5
RIP. What a great sci-fi writer! I wonder if this means we will finally get the third installment of Dangerous Visions.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 28, 2018 15:05:42 GMT -5
My father loved the dude, but I just couldn't get into his stuff.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 28, 2018 15:31:53 GMT -5
Not the nicest guy, but damn he was one hell of a writer. City on the Edge of Forever is one of the greatest episodes of any Star Trek.
RIP
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jun 28, 2018 16:17:33 GMT -5
Damn, RIP. I love his writing, so very visceral. I will miss him. Time to go back and read Angry Candy.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 28, 2018 16:34:20 GMT -5
My favorite piece of fiction he wrote was Jeffty is five. So much was packed into that short story. My favorite non fiction from him is the essay in which Harlan explains why he got fired from Disney during his first day of work.
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Post by CMWaters on Jun 28, 2018 17:24:11 GMT -5
Speaking of Star Trek and Harlan Ellison, here's a story I heard with him and the making of Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
He was brought in to help work on a script for one of the versions of the first movie, this one with sentient reptiles that see humankind dominating Earth and going back in time to correct things. One executive had the thought that the Mayan calendar came from aliens, they should have Mayans in the movie (which was going to the dawn of time). Ellison called the idea stupid, the producer in question questioned why Ellison would come on if he wasn't going to do the idea, and he replied "I'm a writer, I don't know what the f*** you are!"
The only other Harlan Ellison thing I know of was from the MST3K episode "Mitchell", where someone with the resemblance was in the background getting arrested. "They arrested Harlan Ellison!" "Good!"
Either way, while I know not much of his work, RIP.
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Post by nisidhe on Jun 28, 2018 17:29:11 GMT -5
Think I'll have to dig up some episodes of _The Starlost_ and bingewatch 'em.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 28, 2018 17:30:55 GMT -5
Dug out my copy of Deathbird Stories to read over the weekend.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 28, 2018 17:59:08 GMT -5
Speaking of Star Trek and Harlan Ellison, here's a story I heard with him and the making of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. He was brought in to help work on a script for one of the versions of the first movie, this one with sentient reptiles that see humankind dominating Earth and going back in time to correct things. One executive had the thought that the Mayan calendar came from aliens, they should have Mayans in the movie (which was going to the dawn of time). Ellison called the idea stupid, the producer in question questioned why Ellison would come on if he wasn't going to do the idea, and he replied "I'm a writer, I don't know what the f*** you are!" The only other Harlan Ellison thing I know of was from the MST3K episode "Mitchell", where someone with the resemblance was in the background getting arrested. "They arrested Harlan Ellison!" "Good!" Either way, while I know not much of his work, RIP. Funny thing is that Star Trek eventually used those ideas later on with the Voth (Hadrosaur descendants who made it to the Delta Quadrant millions of years ago) and the Xindi-Reptilians (reptile aliens with a few that went back in time to try and wipe out humanity with a biological weapon).
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 28, 2018 18:32:29 GMT -5
My thoughts on Ellison are...complicated. A very talented writer who found ways, often in a court of law, to make himself seem far more important than he actually was, and did as much to damage the sci-fi genre as he did to progress it. RIP nonetheless
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Post by chazraps on Jun 28, 2018 19:20:19 GMT -5
'I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream' is such an amazing title.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 28, 2018 19:33:16 GMT -5
'I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream' is such an amazing title. "I have no mouth And I must scream" is an amazing story.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jun 28, 2018 19:55:48 GMT -5
'I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream' is such an amazing title. "I have no mouth And I must scream" is an amazing story. "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" is an amazing video game.
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 7, 2018 23:16:23 GMT -5
He was capable of making me laugh until I cried, or of disturbing me so much that I had to put his stories down. He had such incredible range in his books and, attitude aside, he did amazing things for the genre.
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Post by The Sam on Jul 8, 2018 5:22:06 GMT -5
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Post by wildojinx on Jul 8, 2018 11:19:12 GMT -5
And according to an interview I read, dont expect any posthumous works by him to come out either, as he gave his wife orders to destroy all unfinished stories by him once he dies.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jul 8, 2018 12:23:54 GMT -5
And according to an interview I read, dont expect any posthumous works by him to come out either, as he gave his wife orders to destroy all unfinished stories by him once he dies. This also means that the Last Dangerous Visions anthology will never see the light of day. This means many of the 113+ stories written by over 100 authors for it may be lost forever. A few of the authors managed to get the rights to their work back and published it elsewhere, but several of the authors of the project, which been in development since the early 70s, had long lost their own copies of the stories or had since died. Maybe she'll officially cancel the project and grant the rights releases to the rest of the stories so the authors can finally do something with them, but it's too late for some of them.
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