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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 31, 2018 0:43:49 GMT -5
Punk cut great promos and elevated absolutely everyone he worked with. The problem is that Punk was rarely booked in the main even despite being the champion. The wwe relied on part timers like Rock and Lesnar to main event the important shows, Punk was an afterthought.
Punk was the first guy who got mainstream attention in a lot of years when he cut the pipebomb. But for some reason they never truly went all in with him, despite also outselling John Cena. That white best in the world shirt was even worn by people who were not really wrestling fans.
For some weird reason Vince never went with Punk as the face of the wwe. I think subconciously he never appreciated that while it was true that CM Punk delivered one of the most important moments in wwe history with that shoot promo, he insulted Vince's daughter and her husband. Like I think Vince always felt that there was no need to insult his family without provocation, now I think if Punk only insulted Vince and Johnny Ace everything would've been different.
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Post by Topher is Human on Jul 31, 2018 1:01:35 GMT -5
Batista did not have any good matches, but I loved how smart his character was. You had to cheat or be underhanded to get one over on him because he was booked to be a genuinely clever guy who did not fall for anything. He seemed like a true champion. The JBL run is some revisionist history IMO. Really bad television. I really enjoyed his series with HHH, JBL was serviceable (not epic but nothing wrong with it), and his match with Eddie was perfectly fine. His team with Rey was fun too. I really liked his reign really.
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Post by Cronant on Jul 31, 2018 12:38:54 GMT -5
Punk cut great promos and elevated absolutely everyone he worked with. The problem is that Punk was rarely booked in the main even despite being the champion. The wwe relied on part timers like Rock and Lesnar to main event the important shows, Punk was an afterthought. Who exactly did Punk elevate? His feud did nothing for Ryback and Bryan went off to Team Hell No afterwards which was what jumpstarted his push.
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Post by The Main Event Man on Jul 31, 2018 12:41:55 GMT -5
CM Punk will win, but IMO it's Brock's current one. He feels legit, he feels important.
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Post by MGH on Jul 31, 2018 13:38:13 GMT -5
Punk's followed closely by AJ's even though Punk's rightfully should've ended losing to John Cena in a triple threat at Wrestlemania.
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Post by msc on Jul 31, 2018 15:39:34 GMT -5
2006-7 me can't believe this post, but... Cena 2006-7. A number of big and good title matches, a number of varied match styles (Cena v big man, Cena in Hardcore brawl, Cena holding own in Shawn Michaels technical match), and ran through 4 memorable Cena feuds - vs Edge, vs Shawn, vs Umaga and finally vs Orton. Got 2 watchable matches out of Khali. The title and the man were blatantly the top thing in the company, and he had his A game on all the PPVs (and a good number of TV defences). What really hurt it was a moment of timing, him gettng injured a mere 5 days before the reign was due to end, via iirc either Carlito or Mr f***ing Kennedy.
I hated this reign at the time, but if I take my bias goggles off, it was a great one.
Daft aside: Cena won the belt for this reign the night before I got engaged to my wife! We used to joke for most of 2017 that Cena's reign was longer than our bloody engagement.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Jul 31, 2018 20:53:19 GMT -5
I legitimately don’t think I’ve looked forward to watching Raw SINCE Punk was champ, so i gotta go with him.
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