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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 24, 2018 20:29:39 GMT -5
Josh is junk at announcing. Just wanted to add to the pileon. It is amazing just how bad he is at it... especially as he seemed pretty good during his stint in WWE... maybe having Vince calling you a f***ing asshole on your headset helped. then again he was on like Velocity and Vince didn't care about it anyway >_> The most memorable thing I remember him calling in WWE off the top of my head was the Orton/Christain world title match on SD in which he did a good job
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Post by chrom on Aug 24, 2018 20:30:39 GMT -5
I agree with a lot of what he said here. That said, I think that wrestling is at its best when it’s walking a line between being family friendly and having more mature content i.e. late ‘80s/early ‘90s WWF. For Impact to have any relevance in wrestling they’re going to need to be on a bigger network though, and that’s not likely to happen IMO. Yea, the name itself is toxic and the bridge has been burned
The best they can hope for is a collab with someone else and try to get bigger that way as they are doing now
Or maybe, Callis can convince NJPW to work with Impact again and can use it as a place to send young talent again while also getting some of the guys on NJPW
However, considering NJPW isn't really f***ing with ROH like they used to, maybe that won't happen but Impact would clearly be the feeder system in this regard and bend over backwards like ROH was doing the last few years
New Japan has no desire to ever work with TNA again. They have never forgotten how they were treated by them NOAH sent Kaito Kitomiya over for an excursion and then demanded him back from them after his first match there
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 24, 2018 20:34:14 GMT -5
Yea, the name itself is toxic and the bridge has been burned
The best they can hope for is a collab with someone else and try to get bigger that way as they are doing now
Or maybe, Callis can convince NJPW to work with Impact again and can use it as a place to send young talent again while also getting some of the guys on NJPW
However, considering NJPW isn't really f***ing with ROH like they used to, maybe that won't happen but Impact would clearly be the feeder system in this regard and bend over backwards like ROH was doing the last few years
New Japan has no desire to ever work with TNA again. They have never forgotten how they were treated by them NOAH sent Kaito Kitomiya over for an excursion and then demanded him back from them after his first match there That was the old regime tho
As I said MAYBE Callis can convince them since he works with NJPW but it's always going be a long shot
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Post by markymark on Aug 24, 2018 20:43:05 GMT -5
First of all, Impact should be TV 14 again, and 2nd, Eddie Edwards shouldnt be the face of the company, ever since he became the top face the viewership has decreased.
Correct if Im not wrong but didnt ROH also go downhill in 2011 when Eddie was also in the main event picture?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 21:08:57 GMT -5
Ah, no matter what the name, we always end up at "Bring Back the Attitude Era" with this company. PG suzxorz shouldn't be an editorial position
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 21:42:29 GMT -5
My thoughts on all this: Not Micromanaging can be really good when the people in charge are good at knowing what people can and can’t do in impact there’s a ton of people doing promos and acting on a taped show week after week that are horrible at it so in reality impact would be better served if they micromanaged a bit.
I stand by the fact that I believe for a company to be successful it needs its own identity impact does not have one they try to be Lucha underground then their trying to be ecw you can take small aspects from each but you need to find what makes you you.LG has known what it is and has had a unique identity from the second it debuted but it’s still a very niche product that hasn’t been very successful.ECW has been dead for almost 2 decades and when it was at its most popular it was a distant #3 and with its content extremely niche.I personally would want to appeal to the most fans possible if I’m an LG fan I’m not gonna watch impact for a LG style product I’m gonna watch LG if I’m a ecw fan I’ll go back and watch a ecw show not impact.
His claim about getting old fans back isn’t reality to me I know a ton of former fans they ain’t coming back it’s much like me during my post high school & college days I did a ton of experimenting had a ton of fun but I’m never doing it again.It was very much a time and place kinda thing when WWF,WCW and to a lesser extent ECW were successful they knew what they were and they were true to that WWF might have taken aspects of ECW but when you watched WWF it felt like WWF,WCW May have taken WWF stars and international stars but when it was successful they had a very unique feel and with ECW it felt like ECW.
I think I’m gonna text some of my former fan friends completely with no context “Do you like awful people? Are you Pro Murder? Well I’ve got a show for you!” and see what they text back I have a feeling I may never hear from them again.
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Post by Rave on Aug 25, 2018 6:35:44 GMT -5
Correct if Im not wrong but didnt ROH also go downhill in 2011 when Eddie was also in the main event picture? Not entirely his fault, that was when the exceptionally shitty Clone Wars stuff happened.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 25, 2018 16:31:28 GMT -5
Ah, no matter what the name, we always end up at "Bring Back the Attitude Era" with this company. In retrospect, the best part about the Attitude Era was no Josh Matthews commentary.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 25, 2018 22:45:14 GMT -5
Aries also believes that shoving your crotch in a woman's face because she flubbed a line is perfectly acceptable behavior... so maybe he doesn't always know what the f*** he's talking about.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 26, 2018 0:38:42 GMT -5
Aries also believes that shoving your crotch in a woman's face because she flubbed a line is perfectly acceptable behavior... so maybe he doesn't always know what the f*** he's talking about. And then proceed to make a joke about it the next week I believe
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 2:12:17 GMT -5
First of all, Impact should be TV 14 again, and 2nd, Eddie Edwards shouldnt be the face of the company, ever since he became the top face the viewership has decreased. Correct if Im not wrong but didnt ROH also go downhill in 2011 when Eddie was also in the main event picture? While I agree that Eddie isn't main event material, I don't think his time on top in ROH is proof of that. His big main event run mostly took place in that time period after they lost tv with HD-Net and before they started airing on Sinclair's stations.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Aug 27, 2018 0:52:34 GMT -5
Aren't the older generation already watching NJPW, ROH or NXT?
Impacts one big problem aside from it being Murphy's law in wrestling is it adds nothing unique to the table, at all.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 27, 2018 0:54:50 GMT -5
Aren't the older generation already watching NJPW, ROH or NXT? Impacts one big problem aside from it being Murphy's law in wrestling is it adds nothing unique to the table, at all. and I have said before it never has... they have always been the yeah us too.
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Post by Power of Love on Aug 27, 2018 18:55:02 GMT -5
Aren't the older generation already watching NJPW, ROH or NXT? Impacts one big problem aside from it being Murphy's law in wrestling is it adds nothing unique to the table, at all. And even though Impact is trying to get better, it feel like it's too little, too late (like late 2000-01 WCW.)
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Post by benstudd on Aug 28, 2018 5:43:50 GMT -5
Given that I also don't watch wrestling anymore, I would be full on willing to watch a more adult-oriented style of wrestling but the little I've watched from Impact, I cannot say that was it. Maybe some of the stuff I've seen from the Corgan NWA as far promoting matches, this is closer to the stuff I would like.
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Post by benstudd on Aug 28, 2018 5:46:41 GMT -5
First of all, Impact should be TV 14 again, and 2nd, Eddie Edwards shouldnt be the face of the company, ever since he became the top face the viewership has decreased. Correct if Im not wrong but didnt ROH also go downhill in 2011 when Eddie was also in the main event picture? Seems like Impact is on his bandwagon cause he is faithful to them, they view him maybe as their own Tommy Dreamer. I don't see it and they don't have Heyman to make that work anyway.
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Post by benstudd on Aug 28, 2018 5:50:18 GMT -5
Aries also believes that shoving your crotch in a woman's face because she flubbed a line is perfectly acceptable behavior... so maybe he doesn't always know what the f*** he's talking about. Who hasn't sinned should throw the first stone and stuff like that.
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Post by benstudd on Aug 28, 2018 5:59:12 GMT -5
Aren't the older generation already watching NJPW, ROH or NXT? Impacts one big problem aside from it being Murphy's law in wrestling is it adds nothing unique to the table, at all. Pretty much doubt that the older generation watch stuff like New Japan, ROH and NXT. There is not much in the content that is true old school wrestling. The Territory days then JCP and 80s WWE then the Attitude Era. That's where I see the cutoff as far as the older generation. Many left when WCW died. And the only reason some of them watched stuff like TNA was that it was WWF Attitude-lite and it had older stars. And then may have discovered new stuff they had not seen before like the X Division.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 28, 2018 11:06:55 GMT -5
Aries also believes that shoving your crotch in a woman's face because she flubbed a line is perfectly acceptable behavior... so maybe he doesn't always know what the f*** he's talking about. Who hasn't sinned should throw the first stone and stuff like that. I have never shoved my crotch in a woman's face ... so I'm good.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 11:55:35 GMT -5
Aries also believes that shoving your crotch in a woman's face because she flubbed a line is perfectly acceptable behavior... so maybe he doesn't always know what the f*** he's talking about. Who hasn't sinned should throw the first stone and stuff like that. Criticism on an on-line forum. Wonder how Aries will survive this sullying of his good name?
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