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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Oct 10, 2018 20:23:01 GMT -5
I knew from the Brock match he had that WWE lacked a certain kind of faith in him. That was the worst show of faith anyone could have put in the guy, because it took him jumping Brock and cheating repeatedly to hold onto any semblance of an ability to take Brock on, and once his cheating stopped he was shut down pretty much immediately. Sure this was during Brock's invincible phase, but they didn't even pretend to portray Joe like he had a chance of having a fair, decent fight against Brock. But, they let him have a match with Brock, so it shows a kind of faith they only have for a few guys. Not faith enough for him to win matches, or for him to have a show of anything substantive. The question if him being in a role where he can't win important matches, especially without cheating, was pretty clear from there. If "he had a match with Brock" is the best accolade he can get then that goes to solidify how that's where he's been pidgeonholed.
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 11, 2018 6:40:37 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase never got title matches he couldn’t come through on for three straight PPVs/major shows; there’s an enormous difference between 80s/90s WWF with its much lighter major card schedule and today, where every Raw and SD is supposed to be a big card and there’s a PPV or network special every other week. Do you think Joe should have won the belt? Because either way, the belt should go to Miz/Bryan. So, either Joe has a short run and loses it to Miz or AJ drops it to Miz. I mean, Joe would be cool, but I think I would rather see this AJ/ Bryan match, so I am not even man about it. Joe will just go do something else awesome. I think Joe never should've been put into a position where they had to contort themselves into pretzels to get him three straight PPV title matches, same with Nakamura earlier this year. If this had been Joe's only shot at AJ and he came up short then I think it's just fine, but given the larger context they've done damage to Joe's image in the service of just letting AJ pass Punk's title reign. It's poor booking.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 11:53:22 GMT -5
My goodness, @kn went scorched earth, lmao. I mostly agree.
They've done a lot damage to Joe's aura. You can't talk about someone being an "assassin" or a "destroyer" and have them lose virtually every match of consequence.
The silver lining is that it's pro wrestling, and anyone can be built back up at anytime, but it seems obvious that they have Joe slotted in as an upper card jobber to the stars. A monster-of-the-month who can talk, essentially. Sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 17:16:58 GMT -5
In junior high I got in a fight with my friend. When we both came back from suspension we became friends again, but I remember changing with him in the locker room for gym when he said something and a classmate of ours overheard and told him, "Shut up Mike before I kick your ass like he did."
That's Joe to me right now. He can talk all this shit, but all anyone has to do is go, "Shut your mouth before I make you tap like AJ did." lol
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Oct 30, 2018 20:14:02 GMT -5
Looks like Joe may be back one more time to get the "full bitch" title after tonight's SDL.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 30, 2018 20:21:06 GMT -5
Looks like Joe may be back one more time to get the "full bitch" title after tonight's SDL. I’m sure he’ll be thinking about all the semi-anonymous computer people calling him names while he gets Daniel Bryan’s big paycheck for losing a wrestling match. I mean, I know why we worry about him, but I’m certain it’s more than he worries about himself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 20:29:25 GMT -5
“Bryan doesn’t want to go to Saudi Arabia. We need a bitch to replace him”.
Samoa Joe walks in.
“Vince, you wanted to see me?”
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Oct 30, 2018 20:35:06 GMT -5
I loled when Joe attacked AJ and Bryan.
Like bro you lost like 3 times in row, back of the line big fella.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 20:36:20 GMT -5
Looks like Joe may be back one more time to get the "full bitch" title after tonight's SDL. I’m sure he’ll be thinking about all the semi-anonymous computer people calling him names while he gets Daniel Bryan’s big paycheck for losing a wrestling match. I mean, I know why we worry about him, but I’m certain it’s more than he worries about himself. Exactly. Especially at this stage in his career and his age in life, get that wwe money and notoriety Joe!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 20:38:38 GMT -5
Joe is one of my favourites.
He should have beat Brock at Great Balls of Fire. I was legit buying him as Brock’s equal during that build up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 20:39:24 GMT -5
Wait, Joe really tried again especially after noble Bryan declined lmao?
This dude rofl!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 21:41:40 GMT -5
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Post by Georgina's Fancy Water on Oct 30, 2018 21:45:38 GMT -5
Looks like Joe may be back one more time to get the "full bitch" title after tonight's SDL. I’m sure he’ll be thinking about all the semi-anonymous computer people calling him names while he gets Daniel Bryan’s big paycheck for losing a wrestling match. I mean, I know why we worry about him, but I’m certain it’s more than he worries about himself.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 30, 2018 21:49:23 GMT -5
I’m sure he’ll be thinking about all the semi-anonymous computer people calling him names while he gets Daniel Bryan’s big paycheck for losing a wrestling match. I mean, I know why we worry about him, but I’m certain it’s more than he worries about himself. I'm just trying to figure out how to de-stigmatise the clean loss, is all.
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Post by cabbageboy on Oct 30, 2018 22:13:54 GMT -5
What else can they do after Bryan refused to go? No one else is in the title scene at the moment and the other potential 4 guys from SD are all in the tourney. Throw Joe out there for a retread title match and be done with it.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Oct 30, 2018 22:22:02 GMT -5
I just find the whole "Joe's a bitch" thing to be kinda funny. At the end of the day, he's still able to be a menacing heel, even with our snarky remarking.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 22:30:32 GMT -5
What else can they do after Bryan refused to go? No one else is in the title scene at the moment and the other potential 4 guys from SD are all in the tourney. Throw Joe out there for a retread title match and be done with it. It's just rough that Joe will probably be taking another big L in a championship match so soon, as it seems pretty apparent that they want AJ to hit the year mark. As far as other options on the roster, yeah, it's slim pickings. It's really Joe or.. The Big Show. An open challenge answered by a guy from Raw could work. Probably what I'd run with.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 30, 2018 22:32:05 GMT -5
Looks like Joe may be back one more time to get the "full bitch" title after tonight's SDL. I’m sure he’ll be thinking about all the semi-anonymous computer people calling him names while he gets Daniel Bryan’s big paycheck for losing a wrestling match. I mean, I know why we worry about him, but I’m certain it’s more than he worries about himself. I'm more worried that he's going to Saudi Arabia.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 22:32:28 GMT -5
At the end of the day, he's still able to be a menacing heel, even with our snarky remarking. Not to me. Joe's now become that kid who talks shit but can never win the fights. He's that dude who talks loud in class but the moment you slap him he shuts up cries with his head down. I don't take anything Joe says and does seriously anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 0:11:00 GMT -5
At the end of the day, he's still able to be a menacing heel, even with our snarky remarking. Not to me. Joe's now become that kid who talks shit but can never win the fights. He's that dude who talks loud in class but the moment you slap him he shuts up cries with his head down. I don't take anything Joe says and does seriously anymore. Yeah, I'll buy him as a menacing heel against the Tye Dillingers of the world but you put him up against someone like AJ, Roman or Brock and you know the guy's going to get bodied.
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