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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 8, 2018 19:34:25 GMT -5
Who can you name that was good wrestlers but are better with the right opponents
Yoshi Hashi is someone that comes to mind. He has become the butt of jokes due to essentially being Okada sidekick but after the first few years he did get good and when you put him in there with the right opponent you can expect a good match
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 19:50:08 GMT -5
John Cena...
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Post by dav on Oct 8, 2018 19:58:38 GMT -5
Davey Boy Smith comes to mind for this.
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Post by J. Hova on Oct 8, 2018 20:52:25 GMT -5
Davey Boy Smith comes to mind for this. A million times this. He was always a good hand, but you put him in there with Bret in WWE or Regal in WCW (watch some of their stuff from the fall of 93, highly underrated IMO) and he was another level. |
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Oct 8, 2018 23:32:04 GMT -5
Roddy Piper.
I may get heat for this, but Steve Austin.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Oct 8, 2018 23:36:39 GMT -5
Sheamus
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Oct 8, 2018 23:53:24 GMT -5
Davey Boy Smith comes to mind for this. A million times this. He was always a good hand, but you put him in there with Bret in WWE or Regal in WCW (watch some of their stuff from the fall of 93, highly underrated IMO) and he was another level. Unfortunately true, Davey was under the influence most of the time so he needed good workers to have great matches. For my pick, Scott Hall, without the right opponents, he was average at best. |
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Oct 9, 2018 1:30:39 GMT -5
A million times this. He was always a good hand, but you put him in there with Bret in WWE or Regal in WCW (watch some of their stuff from the fall of 93, highly underrated IMO) and he was another level. Unfortunately true, Davey was under the influence most of the time so he needed good workers to have great matches. For my pick, Scott Hall, without the right opponents, he was average at best. Scott Hall for sure. The guy was a great character, but he was all character. Most of his matches are 'ok', and arguably, in his most famous match he was carried to a great performance and still outshined by Shawn Michaels. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 9, 2018 2:39:10 GMT -5
Shouldn't this literally describe every wrestler ever?
Who would get worse with a better opponent, unless in specific instances of lack of chemistry or real life grudges?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 9, 2018 2:53:24 GMT -5
Shouldn't this literally describe every wrestler ever? Who would get worse with a better opponent, unless in specific instances of lack of chemistry or real life grudges? Because having good chemistry doesn't mean the two guys are both acclaimed. Look at Goldberg/Steiner from 2000. Neither was having great matches at the time by most measures and they had great brawls. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 9, 2018 2:59:35 GMT -5
Shouldn't this literally describe every wrestler ever? Who would get worse with a better opponent, unless in specific instances of lack of chemistry or real life grudges? Randy has had some clunkers with Sheamus but i've seen him have a good match with Khali
Same with AJ having a good match with Shane McMahon but had some trouble with KO
Obviously those are better than decent wrestlers in AJ, KO, and Randy but just throwing some examples out
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Post by sfvega on Oct 9, 2018 4:11:46 GMT -5
I'll say it, Undertaker before 2000. He was a very smooth athlete for a guy his size, but he was not IMO a great wrestler before 2000. After 2000, he developed by leaps and bounds. But prior, he would do better with Bret or Shawn or Foley (who wouldn't?) who would pull more out of him and make him look a bit better than he was.
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Post by evenbroddt on Oct 9, 2018 6:36:30 GMT -5
Diesel against Bret, Taker and Shawn
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 9, 2018 6:44:55 GMT -5
Kevin Nash is the king of this, he's okay but a great worker is needed for him to shine, someone to sell the things he can do like death.
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Post by Aceorton on Oct 9, 2018 9:59:44 GMT -5
Al Snow comes to mind. Against technical "workers," he was outstanding. Against the more meat-and-potatoes bruisers, his matches always felt lacking.
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Post by ToyfareMark on Oct 10, 2018 20:19:16 GMT -5
Lex Luger is probably a good example.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 20:47:07 GMT -5
Lex Luger is probably a good example. This for sure. |
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Oct 10, 2018 20:49:41 GMT -5
Kurt Angle. I will argue this until the grave. Top tier performer in every single way besides having to be the one put in charge of putting together a match.
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Post by Albino Heat on Oct 10, 2018 21:56:14 GMT -5
Sting
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Post by petef3 on Oct 10, 2018 23:42:55 GMT -5
Shouldn't this literally describe every wrestler ever? Who would get worse with a better opponent, unless in specific instances of lack of chemistry or real life grudges? Not necessarily--people have accused Flair of plugging guys into his "Flair vs. broomstick" formula even when it wasn't necessarily warranted (e.g., his Gordy matches in World Class). |
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