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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 16, 2019 23:13:26 GMT -5
Could see them go to AEW imo.
HERE'S TO THE GREATEST, GREATEST, RELEASE OF ALLLLLLLL! LMAO, just as they get into a game and they paid for his rehab. Brilliant move, tbh. Eh. I get the whole "Vince has an evil, unacceptable worldview, so hooray to everyone who f***s him over!!!" thing, but I just can't go along with it.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 16, 2019 23:23:36 GMT -5
If AEW wanted to prevent anyone from watching the show then go ahead and sign Mike and Maria. Think about this: My mom used to watch TNA most of the time going back to the early Spike TV days, but Maria's awful Knockouts GM character was a bridge too far and she quit watching. I've been fine with them being on 205 Live where they can't do any real damage. Now I'm going to go to bed tonight and worry about having a nightmare of a Mike and Maria vs. Cody and Brandi feud.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 16, 2019 23:26:08 GMT -5
I wonder if they'd be ROH bound instead.
If they do go to AEW, though, it's kinda funny to think that of anyone who has worked for WWE, TNA/Impact, ROH, NJPW, and AEW, it'd be those two.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 23:26:57 GMT -5
I wonder if they'd be ROH bound instead. If they do go to AEW, though, it's kinda funny to think that of anyone who has worked for WWE, TNA/Impact, ROH, NJPW, and AEW, it'd be those two. To be fair they already wouldn't be the first to have that particular distinction because Cody has. For that matter so has Neville.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 16, 2019 23:43:28 GMT -5
I wonder if they'd be ROH bound instead. If they do go to AEW, though, it's kinda funny to think that of anyone who has worked for WWE, TNA/Impact, ROH, NJPW, and AEW, it'd be those two. To be fair they already wouldn't be the first to have that particular distinction because Cody has. For that matter so has Neville. Cody and Neville have worked TNA/Impact?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 23:56:50 GMT -5
To be fair they already wouldn't be the first to have that particular distinction because Cody has. For that matter so has Neville. Cody and Neville have worked TNA/Impact? Cody has. He and Brandi feuded with Mike and Maria. Plus Cody had the GFW Next-Gen championship while in TNA.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 17, 2019 0:00:42 GMT -5
Cody and Neville have worked TNA/Impact? Cody has. He and Brandi feuded with Mike and Maria. Plus Cody had the GFW Next-Gen championship while in TNA. Oh yeaaah, it's been a while. Makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 0:03:19 GMT -5
Cody and Neville have worked TNA/Impact? Cody has. He and Brandi feuded with Mike and Maria. Plus Cody had the GFW Next-Gen championship while in TNA. PAC did some touring work with them in the UK. Don't think he was ever actually on their TV though.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 17, 2019 0:07:02 GMT -5
Nice. I always like when guys hit a bunch of different places. Nothing against "lifers", but some variety in your resume can be interesting.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 17, 2019 1:26:24 GMT -5
Okay, yeah, this is an outright awful idea. Nah, I'm cool with it. One of the biggest problems in WWE right now is the writer's room full of washed-out sitcom jockies that don't know how to book wrestling. Keep your booking simple, old school, and done by wrestling people. No need to hire a guy who wrote three episodes of season 3 of Scrubs to try to write a wrestling show when you have people that know how to book storylines already. Season 3 was good, though. It's the Season 9 writers you should be wary of.
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Post by Shark on Jan 17, 2019 2:05:12 GMT -5
Okay, yeah, this is an outright awful idea. Nah, I'm cool with it. One of the biggest problems in WWE right now is the writer's room full of washed-out sitcom jockies that don't know how to book wrestling. Keep your booking simple, old school, and done by wrestling people. No need to hire a guy who wrote three episodes of season 3 of Scrubs to try to write a wrestling show when you have people that know how to book storylines already. You don't have to hire the same kind of people WWE hires. Just people with some experience writing wrestling that can weave together a uniform narrative. Wrestlers doing it themselves is a recipe for disaster.
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Post by Deputy Muscle on Jan 17, 2019 2:26:13 GMT -5
Could see them go to AEW imo.
Mike 'bread with no butter' Bennett guarantees higher ratings
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Jan 17, 2019 2:34:59 GMT -5
Reportedly signed Luke Perry's son: I somehow read this as "Judge Boy" and now I want his gimmick to be that he's the world's youngest judge but also a wrestler.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 17, 2019 3:07:10 GMT -5
Nah, I'm cool with it. One of the biggest problems in WWE right now is the writer's room full of washed-out sitcom jockies that don't know how to book wrestling. Keep your booking simple, old school, and done by wrestling people. No need to hire a guy who wrote three episodes of season 3 of Scrubs to try to write a wrestling show when you have people that know how to book storylines already. You don't have to hire the same kind of people WWE hires. Just people with some experience writing wrestling that can weave together a uniform narrative. Wrestlers doing it themselves is a recipe for disaster. I dunno about that. Quite a few bookers over the years have been wrestlers. From what I understand, the main bookers are the Bucks, with Cody weighing in, but those two having the final call. There are clear benefits to a pared down approach, and without micromanaging like Vince, you don't really need a big writing staff, anyway, to have to scramble to write promos for a show that is being thrown together in a few hours' time because Vince threw out the last draft, etc.
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Post by TGM on Jan 17, 2019 6:07:16 GMT -5
Today I learned that Luke Perry has a son who is a pro wrestler.
Also, Tony Khan is on the most recent episode of the Sean Waltman podcast. I haven't listened to it yet but should provide some decent insight for this thread.
E: it's from a week ago.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Jan 17, 2019 6:11:30 GMT -5
Nah, I'm cool with it. One of the biggest problems in WWE right now is the writer's room full of washed-out sitcom jockies that don't know how to book wrestling. Keep your booking simple, old school, and done by wrestling people. No need to hire a guy who wrote three episodes of season 3 of Scrubs to try to write a wrestling show when you have people that know how to book storylines already. You don't have to hire the same kind of people WWE hires. Just people with some experience writing wrestling that can weave together a uniform narrative. Wrestlers doing it themselves is a recipe for disaster. How in the world? There's literally decades of proof that wrestlers writing wrestling shows works. That was pretty much the entire basis of the business before about 2002 or so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 6:40:45 GMT -5
Really even if you can divorce it from all potential issues that can arise from leaving it to wrestlers, I still think there should at least be two or three actual writers around. It doesn't hurt to have some fresh ideas and some people who are aware of the actual craft of telling a story.
In part because I don't even slightly agree with the viewpoint of, "Just keep the stories simple!" The TV landscape's changed toward people preferring more complex stories and the old-school NWA style of booking things died for a reason, because shit's boring to try to follow on a weekly basis. And if anything I feel like WWE's a big show of WHY this is a terrible approach to take to structuring a TV show because the problem with their writers isn't that their hacks, it's that they're f***ing lazy and don't do anything but just throw the same tired cliches out there with no greater aspiration than to eat up time.
WWE isn't an argument in favor of no writers, it's an argument in favor of GOOD ones that are allowed room to breathe. There is a big difference. And I'm not at all convinced that someone needs to be a wrestler or even to be a wrestling fan to tell good wrestling stories.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 17, 2019 7:19:24 GMT -5
Eh, I don't know.
"Keep things simple" doesn't mean a lack of complexity, it means not using writers to be the vehicle for your story progression and instead allowing the wrestling to do most of the storytelling, with the wrestlers being given guidelines of what to incorporate into their promos. Tanahashi/Omega this past Wrestle Kingdom told a story that contained complexity, but it was largely carried by the work the two men did in the ring to emphasize their differing philosophies. Writers might be able to help that, but they're not really necessary to; I recognize that a lot of WWE's problems likely stem from Vince's worldview and creative style, but once you're putting words in your wrestlers' mouths you're often handicapping yourself, outside of examples of guys who need the help. I know, actors get written lines, but wrestlers aren't traditional actors, plus they work in a profession where suspension of disbelief is vital due to the industry's history of telling fans "we're lying to you and still want your money, anyway"; everybody knows it's fake now, sure, but it makes getting people to buy in to authenticity all the more important.
By the sound of things the Bucks, Cody, Brandi, and Christopher Daniels will likely have a lot of creative input (Daniels has already worked on the ROH booking team). But having faith in the wrestlers to hit their bullet points for promos and use their match-building skills to tell the stories needed is the way to go.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 17, 2019 13:02:01 GMT -5
I don't see how Bennett and Maria would add anything to AEW, so I hope they don't get signed. Sure Maria is good looking but that all she is. Mike is so bland in the ring and while yes he over came addition which I respect. He just not that good. This would be a case just signing them because they worked in other big places regardless of the success and Maria's eye candy. They need to focus on real value signings when it comes to ex WWE guy signings. TNA made that mistake to many times. Now if a team like the Revival is granted that's a different story because they are a great team that are under used once they got called. Great tag teams to build the tag team sense is more of a challenge than singles in todays wrestling.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 17, 2019 13:06:28 GMT -5
No worries ya'll, I'm actually writing for the company. Never done this before but I'll just look at that week's Raw and do what they did that week. What could go wrong?
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