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Post by jp49er80 on Oct 22, 2018 15:32:40 GMT -5
Austin coming back as 'The old Stone Cold' a few days before Invasion, getting an unbelieveable crowd response, then turning him again at Invasion.
What. The. Hell.
If you were gonna double-down on the heel turn, WHY THE HELL SWAP HIM BACK AGAIN WITH NO STORY OR COMMON SENSE AFTER SURVIVOR SERIES?!
2001 was a maddening year at times.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 22, 2018 17:45:50 GMT -5
Austin coming back as 'The old Stone Cold' a few days before Invasion, getting an unbelieveable crowd response, then turning him again at Invasion. What. The. Hell. If you were gonna double-down on the heel turn, WHY THE HELL SWAP HIM BACK AGAIN WITH NO STORY OR COMMON SENSE AFTER SURVIVOR SERIES?! 2001 was a maddening year at times. Don't sell it short. 2001 was frustrating for almost every single week of TV after WCW closed.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 22, 2018 19:46:18 GMT -5
Stone Cold agreeing to a First Blood match against an opponent wearing a leather mask and only one exposed arm.
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Post by 4real on Oct 23, 2018 15:31:25 GMT -5
I honestly don't think Ambrose's heel turn last night made sense.
I get WWE were building towards it but after Roman's announcement and him and Seth winning the tag titles you would think he would be on a high and would forget any problems. He also essentially replaced Roman as a Champion after being taunted for not having a belt.
Cool moment don't get me wrong but I just don't think it made sense.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 23, 2018 15:36:09 GMT -5
Macho and Sherri being the heels when Warrior turned down Sherri's perfectly polite and respectful request for Macho to get a title shot.
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Post by DSR on Oct 23, 2018 15:45:18 GMT -5
Must add to the people who loved Austin’s turn with Vince. I strongly maintain they should have turned him back for the invasion but the moment itself has always made sense to me. I always thought Austin’s line in their awesome sit-down interview, “I need to beat you Rock. I need it more than anything that you could ever imagine.” spelled it out perfectly. Austin doesn’t just want to be WWF champion, he NEEDS to be, and will do anything to get it, including joining with Vince, something Rock would never have dreamed of doing. The fact it’s Vince isn’t relevant, he’s simply a guarantee that Austin gets back what he had to watch from the sidelines while he was injured. Not counting when he first won the title at Survivor Series 98 by joining with Vince.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Oct 23, 2018 16:04:38 GMT -5
Must add to the people who loved Austin’s turn with Vince. I strongly maintain they should have turned him back for the invasion but the moment itself has always made sense to me. I always thought Austin’s line in their awesome sit-down interview, “I need to beat you Rock. I need it more than anything that you could ever imagine.” spelled it out perfectly. Austin doesn’t just want to be WWF champion, he NEEDS to be, and will do anything to get it, including joining with Vince, something Rock would never have dreamed of doing. The fact it’s Vince isn’t relevant, he’s simply a guarantee that Austin gets back what he had to watch from the sidelines while he was injured. Not counting when he first won the title at Survivor Series 98 by joining with Vince. The Rock of that time I mean
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 24, 2018 8:18:24 GMT -5
Terri Runnels being painted as the heel for sleeping with Val Venis while married to Goldust, when he had already dumped her for Luna Vachon a year earlier. Not only that, but both said they didn't want to be with her but fought each other anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 8:41:17 GMT -5
Austin siding with Vince at WM 17 made sense based on the story. Austin knew that Rock had grown and surpassed him as the top guy and had doubts that he would be able to beat him. Vince always wanted to side with Austin. That was the point of the feud. It was Austin who rebelled and never wanted to “work within the system” like Vince wanted his champions to do. In kayfabe the moment Austin came to Vince for help, there would be no reason for Vince to turn it down. That was essentially his goal for three years prior to that.
Austin siding with HHH (and vice versa) was the part that made no sense.
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Post by auph10imitated on Oct 24, 2018 8:55:44 GMT -5
Terri Runnels being painted as the heel for sleeping with Val Venis while married to Goldust, when he had already dumped her for Luna Vachon a year earlier. Not only that, but both said they didn't want to be with her but fought each other anyway. Also why did she lie about being pregnant? He was happy with her before she announced it, he left her afterwards. It made zero sense at all.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Oct 24, 2018 9:23:47 GMT -5
Macho and Sherri being the heels when Warrior turned down Sherri's perfectly polite and respectful request for Macho to get a title shot. Didn't Sherri call Warrior a coward and slap him across the face? That wasn't really polite.
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Oct 24, 2018 10:19:26 GMT -5
Macho and Sherri being the heels when Warrior turned down Sherri's perfectly polite and respectful request for Macho to get a title shot. Didn't Sherri call Warrior a coward and slap him across the face? That wasn't really polite. Sherri was very polite and complimentary throughout her plea. Hell, at one point she was down on her knees ready to take a faceful of Destrucity. Warrior was kind of a dick here. He had it coming.
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Post by Ragnal on Oct 24, 2018 10:28:20 GMT -5
Mike Knox getting jealous of Punk 'flirting' with Kelly Kelly despite Punk saying he already has a girlfriend, and yet still the feud continued because of that.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Oct 24, 2018 11:04:38 GMT -5
Didn't Sherri call Warrior a coward and slap him across the face? That wasn't really polite. Sherri was very polite and complimentary throughout her plea. Hell, at one point she was down on her knees ready to take a faceful of Destrucity. Warrior was kind of a dick here. He had it coming. Yes, that happened at the Rumble, but I’m referring to what happened on the Brother Love Show before that.
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Post by segaz on Oct 25, 2018 3:31:10 GMT -5
As for why Triple H teamed with Austin? The two above covered it, but basically Triple H was still a weasel. Triple H now knew he could beat him AND Austin had just proven to have more in common with him than he would have thought possible. Why not get on his side for now and make sure he remains champion until you're ready to strike? Eventually Triple H would have turned on him, supposedly as a face going by some accounts. I would have loved to have seen that. It should also be noted that Triple H WAS placated temporarily with the alliance by being both the Intercontinental champion and tag team champion at a time when those titles actually meant something. As an epilogue to my previous post: Austin's fear was right. He would never be able to beat The Rock straight up again. Even when he turned face and Rock was heel at WMXIX, Rock was the better man. Kayfabe explanations are always the best explanations.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Oct 25, 2018 6:14:59 GMT -5
Not only that, but both said they didn't want to be with her but fought each other anyway. Also why did she lie about being pregnant? He was happy with her before she announced it, he left her afterwards. It made zero sense at all. Something something Vince Russo, something something "bro!", something something "they'll never see it coming."
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Oct 25, 2018 7:22:49 GMT -5
Taker's first face turn in 92: Jake turns to form an alliance with him, then Taker turns on Jake with no explanation and no previous dissent, and Taker himself was involved in a brutal beatdown on Hogan earlier that night. Wasn't it because Jake was about to hit Elizabeth with a chair, and a sign that Undertaker had some sense of morals? Pretty interesting that when UT turned face there, he'd basically stay a good guy until the Ministry stuff in 1998.
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Post by auph10imitated on Oct 25, 2018 8:31:54 GMT -5
What’s more interesting is his 92-98 face run felt like 15 years. When it was only 6
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 25, 2018 9:00:48 GMT -5
I honestly don't think Ambrose's heel turn last night made sense. I get WWE were building towards it but after Roman's announcement and him and Seth winning the tag titles you would think he would be on a high and would forget any problems. He also essentially replaced Roman as a Champion after being taunted for not having a belt. Cool moment don't get me wrong but I just don't think it made sense. I disagree. I would say heel logic says strike at the most vulnerable moment. Why would Seth (kayfabe) expect Dean to turn on him when their brother has left and they just won the tag titles? What could be more shocking and traumatic?
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