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Post by markymark on Dec 25, 2018 15:54:04 GMT -5
It’s crazy that at one point New Japan needed TNA and they were the smaller side of the relationship. Also crazy to look at the differences in management and structure when it comes to companies restructuring and trying to reach their old heights of glory. New Japan rebuilt and found itself, TNA keeps taking those hits and the best they can muster isn't really lighting the world on fire. New Japan had the benefit of being in a very different climate and market than TNA is and not having an aggressive WWE poaching everyone, but there's still so many ways in which one company rebuilt smart to thrive and one company is trying just to survive. I think TNA's last regime f***ed things up so bad that now they have no foundation or past to build off of, a different roster with all their homegrown stars driven off, no past or Tanahashi-like figure to build with and make the future on the back of. Jarrett made things worse last year by giving Patron a superman push, tv time to Karen, Prichard and all of his buddies, the JB vs Josh feud which was Jarretts idea.
Joe they never got right after they f***ed him over badly. Before he left he was in the group with MVP and looking well out of shape
I never really liked AJ being "lowered" to idiot goon in the CC but it no doubt gave him more confidence and he finally find his Ace look and gimmick before he left TNA and they low balled him on a contract
They killed Joe for years and he stopped caring. Making him dollar store Umaga killed his tna career. That was Russos though, for a reason he is now banned from the Wrestling Industry.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 25, 2018 16:01:36 GMT -5
I have been saying, the smartest thing that Impact could have done was to get off broadcast TV completely and air exclusively on Twitch. Twitch is still the biggest streaming platform in the world, wrestling companies across the country have benefited tremendously from running their shows on there, and it connects Impact to it's fans in ways that TV still can't figure out. I get that they technically get more people watching being on Pop than they would be on Twitch, but what's the price that they're paying to be on Pop in losing half their ad revenue versus airing for free on Twitch as a partner? They could have made a giant splash if Impact aired "live" on Twitch instead of on Pop, they wouldn't be beheld to timeslots and could call their own shots, and their ad revenue couldn't be worse than they're getting now. At this point, being a big fish in a small pond is better than being a minnow in the Pacific. But nope, Ed and co. still think that being in cable TV, with their 30 million reach and barely drawing 100,000 people a show, is still a viable avenue for them to get their money back that will totally get them the 18-39 market.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 25, 2018 16:17:33 GMT -5
Also crazy to look at the differences in management and structure when it comes to companies restructuring and trying to reach their old heights of glory. New Japan rebuilt and found itself, TNA keeps taking those hits and the best they can muster isn't really lighting the world on fire. New Japan had the benefit of being in a very different climate and market than TNA is and not having an aggressive WWE poaching everyone, but there's still so many ways in which one company rebuilt smart to thrive and one company is trying just to survive. I think TNA's last regime f***ed things up so bad that now they have no foundation or past to build off of, a different roster with all their homegrown stars driven off, no past or Tanahashi-like figure to build with and make the future on the back of. Jarrett made things worse last year by giving Patron a superman push, tv time to Karen, Prichard and all of his buddies, the JB vs Josh feud which was Jarretts idea. Jarrett's brief time there was f***ing intolerable but let's not pretend he didn't inherit an absolutely miserable shitshow from the Dixie days. Alberto's push came about at least in part because they had no stars and needed someone to be at the front of it all, and in their infinite wisdom they settled on El Cokehead Del Knife Fight.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 25, 2018 16:37:00 GMT -5
Also crazy to look at the differences in management and structure when it comes to companies restructuring and trying to reach their old heights of glory. New Japan rebuilt and found itself, TNA keeps taking those hits and the best they can muster isn't really lighting the world on fire. New Japan had the benefit of being in a very different climate and market than TNA is and not having an aggressive WWE poaching everyone, but there's still so many ways in which one company rebuilt smart to thrive and one company is trying just to survive. I think TNA's last regime f***ed things up so bad that now they have no foundation or past to build off of, a different roster with all their homegrown stars driven off, no past or Tanahashi-like figure to build with and make the future on the back of. Jarrett made things worse last year by giving Patron a superman push, tv time to Karen, Prichard and all of his buddies, the JB vs Josh feud which was Jarretts idea.
They killed Joe for years and he stopped caring. Making him dollar store Umaga killed his tna career. That was Russos though, for a reason he is now banned from the Wrestling Industry. Dixie let it happen, and Joe’s burial went on after Russo left.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Dec 25, 2018 16:41:40 GMT -5
Jarrett made things worse last year by giving Patron a superman push, tv time to Karen, Prichard and all of his buddies, the JB vs Josh feud which was Jarretts idea.
That was Russos though, for a reason he is now banned from the Wrestling Industry. Dixie let it happen, and Joe’s burial went on after Russo left. Vince Russo had three tenures, one of which was a secret kept against the demands of the network, under Dixie's time running the company. It ceases being entirely a Russo fault when Dixie let it happen, kept him employed, let him keep doing his nonsense, brought him back so many times, and let him keep pissing around.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 25, 2018 16:42:21 GMT -5
Dixie let it happen, and Joe’s burial went on after Russo left. Vince Russo had three tenures, one of which was a secret kept against the demands of the network, under Dixie's time running the company. It ceases being entirely a Russo fault when Dixie let it happen, kept him employed, let him keep doing his nonsense, brought him back so many times, and let him keep pissing around. Russo was smart kissing her ass for years.
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Post by r. on Dec 26, 2018 0:39:10 GMT -5
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 26, 2018 1:18:17 GMT -5
Mmm you want the bad news or the bad news?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 26, 2018 1:27:42 GMT -5
The only way people know about impact’s move to Spike are the hardcore iwc fans who follow the news. Out of those fans, only a percentage like impact. Out of that percentage, how many of them have Pursuit or would be willing to pay more for the channel?
Impact is banking on a niche of the niche of the niche sector of fans and I can’t see that number being higher than three hundred thousand people.
Can you make a profit that way?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 1:48:06 GMT -5
At what point us it conceded that the 3 Amigos haven't steadied the ship or got it back on course, they just got more effective at bailing out for a while. The only problem was the ship was still taking on water and now they're starting to be swamped again.
I was very hard on the 3, Callis especially, early on but even I had to admit that while I didn't like what they were doing, things calmed down for a while. The fact remains though none of them are qualified or have the skills to do what they planned to achieve. Callis' skills are in running a small indy and terrible commentary. Well, he's got anothet small indy now.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Dec 26, 2018 6:45:48 GMT -5
I feel like Impact is just trying to see how many stations it can be on that no one has ever heard of. It's like the hipsters of wrestling, "Oh, you've probably never heard of our network, it's really underground."
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Dec 26, 2018 9:09:43 GMT -5
At what point us it conceded that the 3 Amigos haven't steadied the ship or got it back on course, they just got more effective at bailing out for a while. The only problem was the ship was still taking on water and now they're starting to be swamped again. I was very hard on the 3, Callis especially, early on but even I had to admit that while I didn't like what they were doing, things calmed down for a while. The fact remains though none of them are qualified or have the skills to do what they planned to achieve. Callis' skills are in running a small indy and terrible commentary. Well, he's got anothet small indy now. They're in the same position right now WCW was in in late 2000/early 2001. They've accepted there's a problem, they know what the problem is and they're doing their damndest to try to fix the problem. But it's too far gone and they lack the tools to fix it in time.
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Post by markymark on Dec 26, 2018 10:16:08 GMT -5
At what point us it conceded that the 3 Amigos haven't steadied the ship or got it back on course, they just got more effective at bailing out for a while. The only problem was the ship was still taking on water and now they're starting to be swamped again. I was very hard on the 3, Callis especially, early on but even I had to admit that while I didn't like what they were doing, things calmed down for a while. The fact remains though none of them are qualified or have the skills to do what they planned to achieve. Callis' skills are in running a small indy and terrible commentary. Well, he's got anothet small indy now. Im surprised there hasnt been pay issues or low morale news in a long time. Those were popular in the Dixie Era.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 26, 2018 10:20:37 GMT -5
I feel like Impact is just trying to see how many stations it can be on that no one has ever heard of. It's like the hipsters of wrestling, "Oh, you've probably never heard of our network, it's really underground." It is so Underground nobody will watch it.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Dec 26, 2018 11:53:06 GMT -5
I shudder to think what a porn channel called Pursuit would have entailed. I know they're trying to be sexy, but this pose always looks like they're going to take giant dump. You do know there's a market for that shit(no pun intended) as well, right? Know it? Hell, that's half my hard drive! Wait...I mean...
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Dec 26, 2018 11:59:47 GMT -5
I feel like Impact is just trying to see how many stations it can be on that no one has ever heard of. It's like the hipsters of wrestling, "Oh, you've probably never heard of our network, it's really underground." It is so Underground nobody will watch it. Impact has been that way for a long time now. I'm telling you, Impact is run by a bunch of hipsters. They aren't self-destructing, they were just too mainstream.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 26, 2018 12:04:23 GMT -5
It is so Underground nobody will watch it. Impact has been that way for a long time now. I'm telling you, Impact is run by a bunch of hipsters. They aren't self-destructing, they were just too mainstream. Impact is my girlfriend who lives in Canada, you wouldn’t know her, she also doesn’t have social media.
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Post by Aya Reiko on Dec 26, 2018 14:51:10 GMT -5
I feel like Impact is just trying to see how many stations it can be on that no one has ever heard of. It's like the hipsters of wrestling, "Oh, you've probably never heard of our network, it's really underground." It is so Underground nobody will watch it. It's not underground, it's in its grave. It just needs someone to push the dirt in so the thing can finally be laid to rest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 14:54:22 GMT -5
At what point us it conceded that the 3 Amigos haven't steadied the ship or got it back on course, they just got more effective at bailing out for a while. The only problem was the ship was still taking on water and now they're starting to be swamped again. I was very hard on the 3, Callis especially, early on but even I had to admit that while I didn't like what they were doing, things calmed down for a while. The fact remains though none of them are qualified or have the skills to do what they planned to achieve. Callis' skills are in running a small indy and terrible commentary. Well, he's got anothet small indy now. Im surprised there hasnt been pay issues or low morale news in a long time. Those were popular in the Dixie Era. There were pay issues early on with Anthem, they seem to have gone now. Morale not an issue, but they have had Low Ki and Aries doing what Low Ki and Aries do. Problems still there, just more effectively managed.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 26, 2018 17:53:40 GMT -5
Im surprised there hasnt been pay issues or low morale news in a long time. Those were popular in the Dixie Era. There were pay issues early on with Anthem, they seem to have gone now. Morale not an issue, but they have had Low Ki and Aries doing what Low Ki and Aries do. Problems still there, just more effectively managed. I wish I believe that but why did they let Aries visit a recent taping and why there’s a report that they’re still open to work with him? He went into business for himself and tried to kill the BFG!
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