Rave
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Post by Rave on Sept 8, 2019 17:44:19 GMT -5
I get the feeling that it was meant to be left as a dangling plotline. Her coming back from WWE spoiled that.
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Post by theaman44 on Sept 8, 2019 19:29:54 GMT -5
Yeah, the Kimerlee storyline feels off. Let's pretend that the Lance Steel thing was a big deal. It's not, but whatever, let's run with it. Why does she have to serve Ophidian now? If anything, her outward goal should be to free Lance from Ophidian's grasp. Just turning that quickly, even if it's begrudgingly, feels so off. Yes, we know it'll end up that she helps break the Crucible, but this doesn't feel like an earned move. They're trying a weak re-tread of "Eddie Kingston Joins the Flood for a hot minute" that they did in 2014, and yeah, I don't really get why. But at least that made some sense. He wanted to do anything he could to get the title back. They had built out that storyline. This one hasn't been built. And the work that has been done (Kim quitting rather than work for Whisper anymore) goes completely against this.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Sept 8, 2019 20:11:22 GMT -5
Isn't there a causal relationship implied between Steel's treatment then and the formation of the crucible now? I figured she felt like things snowballed, so she feels guilty even though she couldn't have foreseen it.
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Post by theaman44 on Sept 8, 2019 21:21:19 GMT -5
But then why would that guilt lead to her joining The Crucible? Wouldn't the more natural feeling be that the guilt leads her to try to destroy it in any way possible, especially since we already saw what happens when she allows someone else to control her? It's completely illogical so that a fairly big moment doesn't really hit at all.
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Rave
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Post by Rave on Sept 8, 2019 21:39:01 GMT -5
So she was a jerk to people. So what? This is something that everyone here already knew about, that those not in the know could easily find out about, that AFAIK nobody kicked up a stink about, and that ultimately isn't that big a deal.
Past is past. I'm sure we all have done stupid stuff and were douchy to people before. That she's still bothered by it and holding onto it enough to be first blackmailed then outright conscripted over, even several years later, it is more than a little concerning and pretty unhealthy.
Perhaps her will is weaker than previously thought if she can't just let it go and start again.
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Post by dragonbone on Sept 9, 2019 16:40:07 GMT -5
I think I was kicked out of the Chikara Discord thingy.
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Rave
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Post by Rave on Sept 10, 2019 13:01:27 GMT -5
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Post by sushiburrito on Sept 10, 2019 14:49:11 GMT -5
I think I was kicked out of the Chikara Discord thingy.
You're still listed as a member there. Maybe try uninstalling and reinstalling the app or something?
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elías
Mike the Goon
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Post by elías on Sept 11, 2019 6:22:45 GMT -5
I think I was kicked out of the Chikara Discord thingy.
You're still listed as a member there. Maybe try uninstalling and reinstalling the app or something?
Oh shoot! Okay, let me explain. Sometimes i check the member list in search for duplicate accounts and yours is one that was duplicated. I appear to have kicked the wrong one. Sorry for that! Also. a reminder. Please, don't create one account each time you access the server Also also here's the link invite to the Chikara101 discord server:https://discordapp.com/invite/Aaznz8C
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Post by lildude8218 on Sept 11, 2019 11:19:16 GMT -5
Oh snap....
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Post by dragonbone on Sept 11, 2019 19:26:31 GMT -5
You're still listed as a member there. Maybe try uninstalling and reinstalling the app or something?
Oh shoot! Okay, let me explain. Sometimes i check the member list in search for duplicate accounts and yours is one that was duplicated. I appear to have kicked the wrong one. Sorry for that! Also. a reminder. Please, don't create one account each time you access the server Also also here's the link invite to the Chikara101 discord server:https://discordapp.com/invite/Aaznz8C Thanks!
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 12, 2019 3:52:52 GMT -5
Man... a lot of the CHIKARA Storylines just feel completely pointless and whack these days... like the wrestling quality is still there but so many characters are spinning their wheels or the storylines don't feel earned or crucial as they used to... I said it before but I'll say it again, Indy wrestling and wrestling as a whole is growing and taking new exciting forms, and CHIKARA has become one of the biggest busts in the last few years due to it, refusing to adapt, refusing to change, and holding themselves up in a home base instead of travelling anymore. It feels like they've really regressed to pre-2008, with better production quality...
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Post by theaman44 on Sept 12, 2019 10:24:14 GMT -5
I disagree with the lack of touring negatively affecting the product. If you want to say it affects the fanbase, I'll listen, but if anything it actually helps the storytelling that you don't have shows being run without the fans having access to the previous show. However, the overall point is right. The stories just aren't there. Even this one has felt a bit lacking, but maybe this is the one time since the shutdown that the bad guys don't get defeated at the season finale and we can go into next season with a different feel.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 12, 2019 10:55:05 GMT -5
I disagree with the lack of touring negatively affecting the product. If you want to say it affects the fanbase, I'll listen, but if anything it actually helps the storytelling that you don't have shows being run without the fans having access to the previous show. However, the overall point is right. The stories just aren't there. Even this one has felt a bit lacking, but maybe this is the one time since the shutdown that the bad guys don't get defeated at the season finale and we can go into next season with a different feel. Yeah that's what I meant, it's really hurt the fanbase. They also had some really set places they always went where they got big crowds outside of Philly and PA, North Carolina being one of the bigger ones. Access to shows is way easier now, they have CHIKARATopia, they're on Powerbomb TV, the travelling was happening when Storylines were far more intricate than this... just feels like they've shrunk as a product and are complacent being super niche now. Issue is, their niche itself is eroding as the Indies and opportunities expand.
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Post by dragonbone on Sept 12, 2019 16:12:31 GMT -5
I can attest to missing them in North Carolina. It was always a big deal (no pun intended) when they came here.
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Post by eJm on Sept 18, 2019 15:51:09 GMT -5
So the latest KOT team announced is from Beyond Wrestling consisting of Thomas Santell, Kris Statlander and, of all possible people in the whole universe...Nick Gage.
Which sounds like a “What is life” moment if I ever saw one.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Sept 18, 2019 15:57:36 GMT -5
Chikara storylines have a weird tendency to be boring and dumb as they go, and then to be cool and interesting in retrospect. I strongly suspect this Whisper thing is gonna fall into that box.
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lucas_lee
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 18, 2019 16:03:36 GMT -5
So the latest KOT team announced is from Beyond Wrestling consisting of Thomas Santell, Kris Statlander and, of all possible people in the whole universe...Nick Gage. Which sounds like a “What is life” moment if I ever saw one. Lol Gage is gonna get banned once they give him a mic. I wonder how the fans will cheer for him
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Post by zero744 on Sept 18, 2019 17:12:37 GMT -5
So the latest KOT team announced is from Beyond Wrestling consisting of Thomas Santell, Kris Statlander and, of all possible people in the whole universe...Nick Gage. Which sounds like a “What is life” moment if I ever saw one. Lol Gage is gonna get banned once they give him a mic. I wonder how the fans will cheer for him Wasn’t he on a show earlier this year?
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lucas_lee
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Post by lucas_lee on Sept 18, 2019 17:13:26 GMT -5
Lol Gage is gonna get banned once they give him a mic. I wonder how the fans will cheer for him Wasn’t he on a show earlier this year? Oh yeah I forgot about that hahah
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