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Post by héad.casé on Jan 12, 2019 9:17:22 GMT -5
Lesnar's was fined by the NSAC after testing positive for banned substances following his UFC 200 win over Mark Hunt in July 2016. The result of the fight was changed to a No Contest due to the failed drug tests. NSAC Executive Director Bob Bennett confirmed just this week to MMA Weekly that the fine has not been paid and because of that, Lesnar remains under indefinite suspension in the state of Nevada. "(Lesnar) is still suspended based on his fine," Bennett said back in July when an upcoming MMA fight between Lesnar and UFC Heavyweight Champion Daniel Cormier first appeared likely. "He is required to pay the fine or set up a payment plan with the Attorney General's Office (to get cleared from the suspension)." Lesnar would have to pay the fine if UFC goes ahead with the Lesnar vs. Cormier fight this year. MMA Weekly points to how Lesnar staying under suspension casts a doubt on his commitment to return to UFC's Octagon. At one point it looked like Lesnar vs. Cormier would take place in the early part of this year but the talk died down. UFC President Dana White recently stated that the door is open for Lesnar to return to the UFC, which WWE would allow under his new contract with them. Lesnar's USADA (United States Anti-Doping Agency) suspension ended this past week. www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2019/01/brock-lesnar-still-owes-250-649715/
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 12, 2019 9:38:49 GMT -5
Considering that Brock could wipe his ass with 250k, yeah, I think he prefers just sitting on his ass up in his remote hunting lodge and getting paid Vince Money to do nothing but read The Backwoodsman.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jan 12, 2019 11:42:05 GMT -5
He'll pay it and return once the Cormier fight is off the table. He wants to return to UFC, but not to a situation where he will be getting his ass beat, which is exactly what would happen with Cormier.
Lesnar doesn't like challenges or losing. He's the grown up version of the kid who plays video games on two player so he can always win. Once they line up some scrub again, he'll be back and roided to the gills, ready to fight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 12:03:28 GMT -5
To be fair, getting a fine from the State Athletic Commision is like getting a ticket for parking too long at the mall. Who's going to enforce it? The mall court? Are they going to put you in mall jail?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 12:04:51 GMT -5
Luckily for him, he probably makes that per minute during his WWE appearances.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 12, 2019 12:52:37 GMT -5
He'll pay it and return once the Cormier fight is off the table. He wants to return to UFC, but not to a situation where he will be getting his ass beat, which is exactly what would happen with Cormier. Lesnar doesn't like challenges or losing. He's the grown up version of the kid who plays video games on two player so he can always win. Once they line up some scrub again, he'll be back and roided to the gills, ready to fight. That's all the way wrong
Lesnar went and tried out for Football on a whim because he was tired of wrestling and almost made the team despite being Raw in Football
He went to MMA because he wanted competition and fought Frank Mir in his first UFC fight. Former UFC Champ Frank Mir who he almost beat but made a rookie mistake and got tapped out
Say what you will about him in WWE now but he's a guy who has taken chances and you don't get into MMA if you don't like competition
In regards to the topic at hand he's probably not going to pay that until they make him vs Cormier official which at this point I assume happens after Mania
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jan 12, 2019 13:06:43 GMT -5
He'll pay it and return once the Cormier fight is off the table. He wants to return to UFC, but not to a situation where he will be getting his ass beat, which is exactly what would happen with Cormier. Lesnar doesn't like challenges or losing. He's the grown up version of the kid who plays video games on two player so he can always win. Once they line up some scrub again, he'll be back and roided to the gills, ready to fight. Nah, he's just waiting for someone to want to use him enough to pay it off for him. He can afford it, he just doesn't care to.
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Post by Muskrat on Jan 12, 2019 14:03:43 GMT -5
He'll pay it and return once the Cormier fight is off the table. He wants to return to UFC, but not to a situation where he will be getting his ass beat, which is exactly what would happen with Cormier. Lesnar doesn't like challenges or losing. He's the grown up version of the kid who plays video games on two player so he can always win. Once they line up some scrub again, he'll be back and roided to the gills, ready to fight. I’m forgetting, which of Brock’s fights in the UFC were against scrubs? Or did he fight 8 fights in the UFC, 5 against current or former UFC champions, 1 former StrikeForce champ, and 2x3rnd ass whoopings against former title contenders. What a list of pussies. Hate Lesnar all you want, but that dude doesn’t back down from fights
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 12, 2019 14:21:25 GMT -5
He'll pay it and return once the Cormier fight is off the table. He wants to return to UFC, but not to a situation where he will be getting his ass beat, which is exactly what would happen with Cormier. Lesnar doesn't like challenges or losing. He's the grown up version of the kid who plays video games on two player so he can always win. Once they line up some scrub again, he'll be back and roided to the gills, ready to fight. I’m forgetting, which of Brock’s fights in the UFC were against scrubs? Or did he fight 8 fights in the UFC, 5 against current or former UFC champions, 1 former StrikeForce champ, and 2x3rnd ass whoopings against former title contenders. What a list of pussies. Hate Lesnar all you want, but that dude doesn’t back down from fights Yea, Brock weakest fight is his first ever fight which is expected and even then he went straight to UFC and his 2nd ever fight was against Mir
Heath Herring can be his "weakest" fight in the UFC but even then he has fought people like Big Nog, Vitor, Cro Cop, Fedor etc... so he wasn't exactly a slouch
Let's not confuse him being lazy in WWE to how insane he actually he is
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 12, 2019 14:33:51 GMT -5
Brock: Paul I gave you the money to pay the comission! You did pay them right?
Heyman: I did give them the money in fact sir.
Brock: Can I see the receipt?
Heyman: What you don’t trust me? Have I ever lied to anyone sir?
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 12, 2019 14:37:17 GMT -5
Sounds like he's learning from his business advisor Paul Heyman on how not to pay your bills/debts etc...
It's a sad state of affairs, IMO, that you have so many ECW guys dying and in despair while Paul becomes the big ticket business advisor to a guy who doesn't have the passion for "this business" yet makes top dollar whenever he does appear. I've never been impressed by Brock and I guess I'm in the minority on that because people still want to see him in UFC or WWE.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 13, 2019 5:33:54 GMT -5
I’m forgetting, which of Brock’s fights in the UFC were against scrubs? Or did he fight 8 fights in the UFC, 5 against current or former UFC champions, 1 former StrikeForce champ, and 2x3rnd ass whoopings against former title contenders. What a list of pussies. Hate Lesnar all you want, but that dude doesn’t back down from fights Yea, Brock weakest fight is his first ever fight which is expected and even then he went straight to UFC and his 2nd ever fight was against Mir
Heath Herring can be his "weakest" fight in the UFC but even then he has fought people like Big Nog, Vitor, Cro Cop, Fedor etc... so he wasn't exactly a slouch
Let's not confuse him being lazy in WWE to how insane he actually he is
Yeah in his first few UFC fights, he got Frank Mir to the edge of losing before making a stupid mistake, hit Heath Herring so hard in the face he had to retire, killed Frank Mir some more after working in his ground game, and then rope-a-doped Shane Carwin
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 13, 2019 5:51:41 GMT -5
I am honestly surprised Dana hasn't paid it yet.
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Post by eJm on Jan 13, 2019 6:19:09 GMT -5
I’m forgetting, which of Brock’s fights in the UFC were against scrubs? Or did he fight 8 fights in the UFC, 5 against current or former UFC champions, 1 former StrikeForce champ, and 2x3rnd ass whoopings against former title contenders. What a list of pussies. Hate Lesnar all you want, but that dude doesn’t back down from fights Yea, Brock weakest fight is his first ever fight which is expected and even then he went straight to UFC and his 2nd ever fight was against Mir Heath Herring can be his "weakest" fight in the UFC but even then he has fought people like Big Nog, Vitor, Cro Cop, Fedor etc... so he wasn't exactly a slouch
Let's not confuse him being lazy in WWE to how insane he actually he is
And even with his laziness, some of that blame goes to management for letting him get away with it. This is Vince we’re talking about. If that stuff actually bothered him about Brock, it’d have been dealt with a LONG time ago.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 13, 2019 6:35:41 GMT -5
Yea, Brock weakest fight is his first ever fight which is expected and even then he went straight to UFC and his 2nd ever fight was against Mir Heath Herring can be his "weakest" fight in the UFC but even then he has fought people like Big Nog, Vitor, Cro Cop, Fedor etc... so he wasn't exactly a slouch
Let's not confuse him being lazy in WWE to how insane he actually he is
And even with his laziness, some of that blame goes to management for letting him get away with it. This is Vince we’re talking about. If that stuff actually bothered him about Brock, it’d have been dealt with a LONG time ago. It also doesn't help he was initially rewarded for it by crowds. "Suplex City" against Cena got over, and the quality of his matches sank because, well, it did initially add to the aura of "f*** you, pay me" that got over. Obviously not blaming audiences, but I can see where there just isn't a lot of incentive for Brock to do better unless he actually wants to, like trying noticeably more again AJ and Bryan, or in his first match with Roman.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 6:43:36 GMT -5
he'll be 42 in July. A younger fighter would likely knock him out due to decreased handspeed from aging
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 13, 2019 7:06:38 GMT -5
Yea, Brock weakest fight is his first ever fight which is expected and even then he went straight to UFC and his 2nd ever fight was against Mir Heath Herring can be his "weakest" fight in the UFC but even then he has fought people like Big Nog, Vitor, Cro Cop, Fedor etc... so he wasn't exactly a slouch
Let's not confuse him being lazy in WWE to how insane he actually he is
And even with his laziness, some of that blame goes to management for letting him get away with it. This is Vince we’re talking about. If that stuff actually bothered him about Brock, it’d have been dealt with a LONG time ago. Yea, the whole not wanting to appear X amount of days is one thing but it has shown in his ring quality since Suplex City hit big that he's perfectly content just doing that unless he's in there with people he wants to be or they push the pace like AJ and Bryan
Vince is perfectly content with letting Brock be Brock especially if it doesn't hurt him. Also add in Heyman who's also perfectly content with Brock doing what he does cause it is an easy pay day for him as well who outside of a few spices here and there, he has been on repeat for a good min
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 13, 2019 7:12:07 GMT -5
Yea, Brock weakest fight is his first ever fight which is expected and even then he went straight to UFC and his 2nd ever fight was against Mir
Heath Herring can be his "weakest" fight in the UFC but even then he has fought people like Big Nog, Vitor, Cro Cop, Fedor etc... so he wasn't exactly a slouch
Let's not confuse him being lazy in WWE to how insane he actually he is
Yeah in his first few UFC fights, he got Frank Mir to the edge of losing before making a stupid mistake, hit Heath Herring so hard in the face he had to retire, killed Frank Mir some more after working in his ground game, and then rope-a-doped Shane Carwin Also add in Randy Couture who was fresh off his dispute with the UFC and got a new contract and was thrown right into the mix with Brock Lesnar
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 13, 2019 10:19:30 GMT -5
I think deep down Brock knows that if he were to fight clean instead of roided up, he would get killed.
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Post by Muskrat on Jan 13, 2019 11:23:06 GMT -5
Yeah in his first few UFC fights, he got Frank Mir to the edge of losing before making a stupid mistake, hit Heath Herring so hard in the face he had to retire, killed Frank Mir some more after working in his ground game, and then rope-a-doped Shane Carwin Also add in Randy Couture who was fresh off his dispute with the UFC and got a new contract and was thrown right into the mix with Brock Lesnar Couture actually asked for that fight. It was part of the deal of him coming back, he wanted Lesnar or Big Nog and Big Nog was already doing TUF with Mir so Randy got Lesnar.
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