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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 17:10:38 GMT -5
I hate when people in the industry try to explain why those outside of the industry dislike someone. You don't know us fans. It's worse than that. They know the fans who don't know what boundaries are, and who hound them relentlessly. Those fans? They know intimately. It's when they view that as more generally applying that you get the paternalistic crap from them. It's weird to me because some of their viewpoints match most fans as a whole but others are so completely far off the mark that you wonder how they came up with them. The fact it still happens to those who are older legends these days, it's rare. I'm trying to think who's the most level-headed of these older stars who understand the fans of today and all I can come up with are Edge and Christian. It could be their age, it could be the fact that they're generally more down to Earth, humble and their attitudes match the majority of everyone today but it's rare to hear them say something that makes me think "wow, how could they think that" compared to these others.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 31, 2019 17:17:50 GMT -5
1. Falling victim ot the Becky Lynch effect-as Becky’s popularity has skyrocketed, several other women have seen their own stock drop for it 2. While Rhonda has adapted well to the ring, she is still utter buttcheeks on the mic and has cut some cringeworthy promos 3. Rhonda has been way overpowered and pushed far too hard, far too fast-the Roman Reigns effect And possibly 4. The recent rumor she may be done after WM, leading to a perception she has “sold out,” as has happened to others in the past These are my reasons right here. It's not because for a while she was the dominate force in the UFC. That's the UFC but she was in a year handed everything while others spend years perfecting there craft. You can take any womans wrestler on the roster and if they came in with no wrestling experience and in there first year they are pushed as hard as Rhonda is, they would get the same reaction. Becky Lynch is a red hot act and anybody else pushed against her will get booed. Just like Daniel Bryan a few years ago when the "Yes" moment happened. The WWE wanted one thing to happen at WM 30 but Bryan was who everyone wanted so it never mattered what they did. If it wasn't Bryan it was no deal. Rhonda against anybody else she gotten better reaction but she against the woman everyone wants to see. It's like anybody going against Austin at his peek.
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Post by saneiac on Jan 31, 2019 17:17:51 GMT -5
What the hell are Bo’s problems!? Sandy Hook actors. September 11 planned demolitions. Fake moon landing. Flat Earth. Lizard people. Seriously. If there's a fringe conspiracy theory, Bo believes in it.
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Post by 111111 on Jan 31, 2019 17:27:08 GMT -5
I thought she was getting booed because she's you know the heel in this fued with Becky.
Fsce and heel alignments aren't always as clear cut as they used to be but nothing Rhondda has said or done makes me think she's meant to be the face.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 31, 2019 17:53:20 GMT -5
I feel like Asuka is one of the only people who has managed to not get shit on by fans for fighting Becky, but their fanbases probably have a shitload of overlap.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 17:57:20 GMT -5
I feel like Asuka is one of the only people who has managed to not get shit on by fans for fighting Becky, but their fanbases probably have a shitload of overlap. Yeah, Becky's pops were a bit louder than Asuka's but neither were booed or anything. Asuka held her own.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 31, 2019 17:58:06 GMT -5
It's hard to talk about someone being on the same level as all-time great athletes when wrestling isn't legitimate competition. And the only reason Rousey even got into wrestling is because her MMA career nosedived into the abyss.
Besides all that, she's not even that great a wrestler anyway. She got a lot of benefit of the doubt from looking like she knew what she was doing for someone completely new to pro wrestling. But I don't know if it's because other talent is outshining her or she's phoning it in more, but her last few matches have been sloppy.
I know Henry can't just say wrestling isn't real, but don't insult our intelligence either.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 31, 2019 17:59:13 GMT -5
While her personal views do play a factor. Something about her has always rubbed me the wrong way, and as far as WWE in particular...she's had good matches I can admit but she's so damn BAD on the mic it's painful. She also cannot act,she only has one face. If roman was Mildly Smug, Ronda always look like she is Mildly Annoyed
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 31, 2019 18:00:15 GMT -5
What? People don't hate Brady because he's good, they hate him because he's a douchebag.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 1, 2019 15:23:52 GMT -5
They really need to get over this ridiculous 'they're just jealous because they're so AWESOME and they can't handle it!' narrative they keep trying to push. It's been horseshit in every single case.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 21:35:28 GMT -5
What I don't like with Ronda Rousey is she doesn't sell a story. She's pissed about something? Who knows because she comes out smiling and high-fiving and then oh she grabs a mic and it's time to be pissed I guess. Like shit, if you're going to come down and bitch about something, show that emotion on your face before you even speak. I just can't get into a Rousey segment at all because her emotions seem fake. Wrestling, okay she's good enough but that's not enough to distinguish yourself anymore.
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Post by benstudd on Feb 1, 2019 21:50:10 GMT -5
I thought the WWE for one rare moment have had a great booking success with one wrestler in Ronda. I was shocked cause they did not have a good pedigree in recent years. (i think the last time they had booked someone well was the Jericho-Owens duo). That didn't last long when they threw her with Becky. They cannot do anything f***ing right. What were they thinking?
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Post by benstudd on Feb 1, 2019 21:53:01 GMT -5
What? People don't hate Brady because he's good, they hate him because he's a douchebag. I always heard he was a good guy. As someone who's not a Pats fan, I don't think there's anything in the guy to make me think he's a douche.
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Post by brooklynmets on Feb 1, 2019 21:57:51 GMT -5
That might be third on the list of reasons at most, behind “Is feuding with Becky Lynch” and “Problematic real-life views and attitudes”. I'm lost here, what's her problematic real-life views?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 1, 2019 22:03:48 GMT -5
That might be third on the list of reasons at most, behind “Is feuding with Becky Lynch” and “Problematic real-life views and attitudes”. I'm lost here, what's her problematic real-life views? Transphobia and some conspiracy theorism, from what I understand.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 1, 2019 22:17:00 GMT -5
What? People don't hate Brady because he's good, they hate him because he's a douchebag. I don't like Brady, but him winning so much does contribute to why people don't like him, since yeah, "No one cheers for Goliath" as Wilt Chamberlain put it. But there's other stuff that contributes to it, be it a hat that will go unnamed in here or stuff like the deflated ball scandal, etc.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 1, 2019 22:24:01 GMT -5
That might be third on the list of reasons at most, behind “Is feuding with Becky Lynch” and “Problematic real-life views and attitudes”. Hulk Hogan is still beloved by huge portions of the fan base despite his real-life views and attitude being 100% less ambiguous compared to Ronda's. I'd attribute about 90% of the negative reactions being due to her feuding with Becky, who would be cheered over almost everybody on the roster.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 22:33:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Ronda is a douche and comes off completely unlikeable IRL but no way she’s getting booed for her personal beliefs. It’s almost entirely because of who she is feuding with and possibly the female Lesnar push she is getting.
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Post by brown bricks on Feb 1, 2019 22:36:57 GMT -5
Ronda is a terrible person in real life. Not only that, just look at her awful promo this past Monday. Becky ate her alive and made her look foolish. She sucks and the fans are wising up to that. That's why they're wising up to her. It's not hard to figure out.
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 2, 2019 0:25:07 GMT -5
One problem I had with that promo was that she threatened to murder Becky, who just smirked at her. If you're already threatening to physically kill someone, there's not really any other way you can raise the rhetorical stakes, you know? Becky doesn't feel threatened by it, so it'll now feel jarring if Ronda says anything and Becky does feel threatened.
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