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Post by Welfare Willis on Feb 2, 2019 2:31:14 GMT -5
Mark still hasn't answered the questions plaguing generations: How good was Mae Young in the sack: a 10 or only a 9 and a 1/2?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 4:08:21 GMT -5
One problem I had with that promo was that she threatened to murder Becky, who just smirked at her. If you're already threatening to physically kill someone, there's not really any other way you can raise the rhetorical stakes, you know? Becky doesn't feel threatened by it, so it'll now feel jarring if Ronda says anything and Becky does feel threatened. Ronda @ Becky: "What the f*** did you just f***ing say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills."
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Feb 2, 2019 4:16:20 GMT -5
I knew Mark was about talk some wild dumb after the first two sentences.
If anything, the have Rhonda and Becky feuding now. WWE hasn't been in this position in a long time with two people this over. Becky is one of the biggest faces in the company. People don't hate Rhonda, they just have other options.
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 2, 2019 6:06:08 GMT -5
One problem I had with that promo was that she threatened to murder Becky, who just smirked at her. If you're already threatening to physically kill someone, there's not really any other way you can raise the rhetorical stakes, you know? Becky doesn't feel threatened by it, so it'll now feel jarring if Ronda says anything and Becky does feel threatened. Ronda @ Becky: "What the f*** did you just f***ing say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills."
Becky: [smirks]
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Post by mcstoklasa on Feb 2, 2019 6:22:07 GMT -5
Ronda is a terrible person in real life.. You don’t know this. That is a hell of a claim
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 2, 2019 9:28:11 GMT -5
That might be third on the list of reasons at most, behind “Is feuding with Becky Lynch” and “Problematic real-life views and attitudes”. Very few people in WWE are actually going to get confronted over "problematic views" as long as the McMahons are around. Big Cass is the only recent full-timer who took locker room heat for such a thing, I think. So it's not surprising that Henry didn't bring that up. there's some merit to that mind, in Cass' case it wasn't just his problematic views, it was that he'd never shut up about them.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 2, 2019 9:32:04 GMT -5
Very few people in WWE are actually going to get confronted over "problematic views" as long as the McMahons are around. Big Cass is the only recent full-timer who took locker room heat for such a thing, I think. So it's not surprising that Henry didn't bring that up. there's some merit to that mind, in Cass' case it wasn't just his problematic views, it was that he'd never shut up about them. I assume in his case it was insulting Muslims right in front of Sami Zayn that did him in on that front.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 2, 2019 9:52:55 GMT -5
there's some merit to that mind, in Cass' case it wasn't just his problematic views, it was that he'd never shut up about them. I assume in his case it was insulting Muslims right in front of Sami Zayn that did him in on that front. pretty much. guy did himself no favors, but I remember hearing that his kvetching about Syrian immigrants to Sami's face was just the latest in a line of incidents where he got on hit political soapbox knowing damn well nobody wanted to hear it.
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Post by brown bricks on Feb 2, 2019 17:27:39 GMT -5
Ronda is a terrible person in real life.. You don’t know this. That is a hell of a claim She’s transphobic and believes Sandy Hook was a hoax. We are all different, but in my own personal world view, that absolutely makes someone an awful person.
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Post by toodarkmark on Feb 2, 2019 17:37:52 GMT -5
I think it was the avocado toast promo. It was her suffering succotash moment. Pretty certain it was an unnamed 73 year old billionaire who really knows how to get faces over nowdays who wrote it for her.
Once the backlash happens, send out veterans to call the fans dumb. Worked with Roman Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 18:10:58 GMT -5
They really need to get over this ridiculous 'they're just jealous because they're so AWESOME and they can't handle it!' narrative they keep trying to push. It's been horseshit in every single case. Like when Ricochet tweeted that people only booed Roman because they were jealous.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 2, 2019 20:18:04 GMT -5
You don’t know this. That is a hell of a claim She’s transphobic and believes Sandy Hook was a hoax. We are all different, but in my own personal world view, that absolutely makes someone an awful person. Her supposed transphobia comes from raising doubts about whether a woman who transitioned at age 30, began competing in womens' MMA at 32, and didn't disclose her gender reassignment until after her second fight had an advantage due to musculature and bone density. "It's a case-by-case scenario thing. I've tried to research it a lot. I feel like if you go through puberty as a man it's not something you can reverse. There's no undo button on that." It's worth noting that argument is still going on amongst medical professionals (though the consensus seems to be leaning more towards bone density and muscular structure being "undone" by the transition therapy), and it is by no means universal amongst athletic commissions to allow transgender athletes to compete in cis divisions. Rousey's comments are a world apart from someone who is actually transphobic, like Matt Mitrione ("Fox is a lying, sick, sociopathic, disgusting freak"), and came from a position of being asked her professional opinion as a fighter, rather than spouting off a bunch of hate over Fox simply being a transgender woman. Being uncomfortable about something that is still a huge grey area in combat sports doesn't make someone a transphobe. As for Sandy Hook, well yeah, even with her " I don't believe in taking everything you see on the news at face value, I just thought the video was interesting" backtrack, that's some bullshit and she deservedly gets raked over the coals for that.
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Post by Juice on Feb 3, 2019 0:14:16 GMT -5
HE is the worst thing about Busted open after The Coach.
I am tired pof people using the fans to justify why the fans are wrong. Who cares why people turned on her. They did. Now adjust accordingly.
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Post by MAD TITAN on Feb 3, 2019 0:26:17 GMT -5
I don't want to believe that the people in the business are this delusional.
Maybe Henry is towing the company line so he can keep getting those retirement checks.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Feb 3, 2019 13:11:30 GMT -5
She’s transphobic and believes Sandy Hook was a hoax. We are all different, but in my own personal world view, that absolutely makes someone an awful person. Her supposed transphobia comes from raising doubts about whether a woman who transitioned at age 30, began competing in womens' MMA at 32, and didn't disclose her gender reassignment until after her second fight had an advantage due to musculature and bone density. "It's a case-by-case scenario thing. I've tried to research it a lot. I feel like if you go through puberty as a man it's not something you can reverse. There's no undo button on that." It's worth noting that argument is still going on amongst medical professionals (though the consensus seems to be leaning more towards bone density and muscular structure being "undone" by the transition therapy), and it is by no means universal amongst athletic commissions to allow transgender athletes to compete in cis divisions. Rousey's comments are a world apart from someone who is actually transphobic, like Matt Mitrione ("Fox is a lying, sick, sociopathic, disgusting freak"), and came from a position of being asked her professional opinion as a fighter, rather than spouting off a bunch of hate over Fox simply being a transgender woman. Being uncomfortable about something that is still a huge grey area in combat sports doesn't make someone a transphobe. As for Sandy Hook, well yeah, even with her " I don't believe in taking everything you see on the news at face value, I just thought the video was interesting" backtrack, that's some bullshit and she deservedly gets raked over the coals for that. Thank you. But it doesn’t matter as all she really did was raise concerns over fighting someone who used to be male, rightly or wrongly, she will always just get labelled now, unfortunately.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 3, 2019 13:21:39 GMT -5
I will say that even in Ronda's own autobiography she doesn't come across as the greatest of people at times--nothing like the Sandy Hook stuff, just really kinda self-absorbed and thin-skinned. I don't think it's a stretch to say that's been borne out a bit.
It's weird to read someone's own autobiography and be less of a fan than when you started, but it happened for me.
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Post by Aceorton on Feb 3, 2019 13:26:35 GMT -5
Let's go back to his initial claim that Ronda Rousey, who had to sulk away after being exposed in her original sport, is like Michael Jordan or Tom Brady.
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Post by BatPunk on Feb 3, 2019 13:38:49 GMT -5
Mark still hasn't answered the questions plaguing generations: How good was Mae Young in the sack: a 10 or only a 9 and a 1/2? She had a great hand.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2019 13:42:19 GMT -5
or maybe... Ronda's a horrible person?
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Post by mcstoklasa on Feb 3, 2019 13:57:25 GMT -5
I will say that even in Ronda's own autobiography she doesn't come across as the greatest of people at times--nothing like the Sandy Hook stuff, just really kinda self-absorbed and thin-skinned. I don't think it's a stretch to say that's been borne out a bit. It's weird to read someone's own autobiography and be less of a fan than when you started, but it happened for me. I didn’t really like Simon peggs autobiography as he seemed a bit of a turd in it ☹️
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