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Post by pottsy87 on Feb 12, 2019 0:49:19 GMT -5
Took 25 minutes to sell out a 17,000 seated arena. Vince has gotta be having an ulcer They can't sell-out 10k for RAW right now. I think its a great result for AEW, but you really cant compare the two.
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Post by KofiMania on Feb 12, 2019 0:52:27 GMT -5
They can't sell-out 10k for RAW right now. I think its a great result for AEW, but you really cant compare the two. Yeah I’m excited about AEW but you can’t compare a company running their first show and only one of two shows announced for the whole year selling out a 14K arena to a company that runs probably 400 shows a year not selling out a weekly show.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 12, 2019 1:10:10 GMT -5
So, this is what StubHub looks like if you go there without an account or prior browsing history, and it only thing the site knows about you is you're are logging in from Vegas. This is a pretty f***ing big deal here to see AEW listed before the Golden Knights and UFC 235.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 12, 2019 1:40:41 GMT -5
I know some people have poopoo-ed AEW as a threat, and I know it's justified in response to a lot of the souped up hype and the fact they haven't really started yet. This upstart promotion just sold out their first show in a fully booked arena without even having the associations and possibilities that All In brought to the table of seeing New Japan guys and such. I think anyone in wrestling would be foolish to write these guys off as anything but a threat. If they have the commited money backing them to keep making plays, something very interesting is going to happen here. The only thing I will say AEW has to be conscious about is running costs. I have enough faith that they are have that type of thing considered, but all it takes is the Khans to see the costs compared to profit to pull the plug. Now again though I think all parties involved are smart enough to have prepared
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Post by 111111 on Feb 12, 2019 3:06:00 GMT -5
I mean this is similar to all in, in the respects it's held in a market thats very easy to fly in to and that even though the its the launch of an actual promotion it still has that sort of one off historic event feel to it, it will be interesting to see how their shows do when they're running arenas in middle America and they're on TV every week.
Don't get me wrong I have every confidence they can pull this off and I'm not trying to take away from their industry shattering achievements so far, It'll just be interesting to see what happens after the "honeymoon period" is over.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 12, 2019 3:35:28 GMT -5
I mean this is similar to all in, in the respects it's held in a market thats very easy to fly in to and that even though the its the launch of an actual promotion it still has that sort of one off historic event feel to it, it will be interesting to see how their shows do when they're running arenas in middle America and they're on TV every week. Don't get me wrong I have every confidence they can pull this off and I'm not trying to take away from their industry shattering achievements so far, It'll just be interesting to see what happens after the "honeymoon period" is over. Oh, certainly, though I am pretty optimistic about their ticket sales going forward, generally speaking.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Feb 12, 2019 3:53:12 GMT -5
Selling out this quickly is the best start for them. I'm sure it gives them a lot of confidence in what they are doing. Positive steps and this is what they need. I'm not sure every event will be this way when they do weekly shows but great turn outs is all they need and sell out PPV events. They already done what TNA never done, sell out events, and more so do it in under 30 mins.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2019 3:57:57 GMT -5
The rumor is their plan is to do shows like this once a month through September and then start TV in October. Which seems... I dunno. I could see that just creating fatigue before it's even really started.
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Post by Prince Petty on Feb 12, 2019 4:27:33 GMT -5
I think they need to prove they can put shows on consistently, before anyone is going to offer them a decent TV deal. But they'd be better off launching from this PPV into house shows, and maybe some taped stuff, so they can iron out kinks in their presentation and figure out what they want their company to look like.
It needs to have a distinct presentation and feel, to differentiate it from the WWE and ROH. And they also need to figure out how they're going to build storylines that can play out across multiple shows, rather than a big, All In splash.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 12, 2019 4:35:26 GMT -5
I think they need to prove they can put shows on consistently, before anyone is going to offer them a decent TV deal. But they'd be better off launching from this PPV into house shows, and maybe some taped stuff, so they can iron out kinks in their presentation and figure out what they want their company to look like. It needs to have a distinct presentation and feel, to differentiate it from the WWE and ROH. And they also need to figure out how they're going to build storylines that can play out across multiple shows, rather than a big, All In splash. If it looks like it was filmed by a professional, it'll stand out from Ring of Honor well enough. (Okay, I am sure they've gotten better, but their presentation even mere years was astonishingly amateurish for a movie that by that time had been operating for this long.)
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 12, 2019 5:51:02 GMT -5
I think they need to prove they can put shows on consistently, before anyone is going to offer them a decent TV deal. But they'd be better off launching from this PPV into house shows, and maybe some taped stuff, so they can iron out kinks in their presentation and figure out what they want their company to look like. It needs to have a distinct presentation and feel, to differentiate it from the WWE and ROH. And they also need to figure out how they're going to build storylines that can play out across multiple shows, rather than a big, All In splash. But TV companies were already entertaining them. The fact AAF also got 2.9 Million Viewers is something else too. Will it sustain that? No, but it proves there's a crowd out there that yearns for some alternative, whether they're sick of the NFL's or Wrestlings bullshit. I think companies see this as an opportunity. Will it take time? Maybe, but AEW's proving their worth very quickly.
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Post by Mecca on Feb 12, 2019 7:16:01 GMT -5
I think they need to prove they can put shows on consistently, before anyone is going to offer them a decent TV deal. But they'd be better off launching from this PPV into house shows, and maybe some taped stuff, so they can iron out kinks in their presentation and figure out what they want their company to look like. It needs to have a distinct presentation and feel, to differentiate it from the WWE and ROH. And they also need to figure out how they're going to build storylines that can play out across multiple shows, rather than a big, All In splash. But TV companies were already entertaining them. The fact AAF also got 2.9 Million Viewers is something else too. Will it sustain that? No, but it proves there's a crowd out there that yearns for some alternative, whether they're sick of the NFL's or Wrestlings bullshit. I think companies see this as an opportunity. Will it take time? Maybe, but AEW's proving their worth very quickly. There are also people that will watch any football, just like wrestling fans that watch any wrestling. The biggest issue with this I see is what kind of loss are they going to run at and how long will that last. I mean you don't offer and give big contracts running a few shows and make money, it's not feasible. Then we factor in something like Kenny Omega getting a but ton of money contract to basically be able to do whatever he wants...which is a Bischoff kinda contract.
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Post by markymark on Feb 12, 2019 8:02:45 GMT -5
Selling out this quickly is the best start for them. I'm sure it gives them a lot of confidence in what they are doing. Positive steps and this is what they need. I'm not sure every event will be this way when they do weekly shows but great turn outs is all they need and sell out PPV events. They already done what TNA never done, sell out events, and more so do it in under 30 mins. TNA was really bad at promotion and advertising, and pretty much depended on the TV deal to stay alive(and Ratings.. Ratings bro!).
Im excited for AEW, if they get with TBS or TNT in late 2019, The ProWrestling business will be revived like a Phoenix.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 12, 2019 12:01:30 GMT -5
The rumor is their plan is to do shows like this once a month through September and then start TV in October. Which seems... I dunno. I could see that just creating fatigue before it's even really started. I mean, can it really be fatigue if we're talking no more than five cards before October? If they're going to be a TV product they need to have something leading into their debut. Now, maybe they won't be able to sell out 15,000 seat venues for each of the five cards once people realize they can wait until there's a show closer to wherever they live rather than jumping online right away to grab tickets to Vegas, but they have to get to that point eventually, anyway, so might as well ease into it.
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Post by chrom on Feb 12, 2019 12:07:56 GMT -5
Better to be slow and ready than jumping in headfirst without a plan like TNA.
Plus I'm sure by the June show they've crowned the first champions and whatnot
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Post by chrom on Feb 12, 2019 12:12:26 GMT -5
Cody's having surgery for his knee today
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Post by mikeoldmac on Feb 12, 2019 12:38:25 GMT -5
think alot of people over rating this its the 2nd show of the company where they can basically book dream matches.
its differently doing weekly tv
wwe will not be effected by this in the slightest
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 12, 2019 16:35:17 GMT -5
think alot of people over rating this its the 2nd show of the company where they can basically book dream matches. its differently doing weekly tv wwe will not be effected by this in the slightest Well, let's not go that far, either: WWE's already lost a couple of free agent bidding contests to them and there's word going around that they're now doing everything they can to wrangle in all of their guys and gals with expiring contracts, so clearly they do believe this can impact them on some level.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Feb 12, 2019 16:40:23 GMT -5
The existence of AEW so far is enough to give WWE talent employment options and contract leverage. That can't be ignored.
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Post by eJm on Feb 12, 2019 17:07:06 GMT -5
The existence of AEW so far is enough to give WWE talent employment options and contract leverage. That can't be ignored. Like, The Revival just won the tag titles and Zack Ryder’s made more TV appearances in 2019 than he did in 2018. They’re definitely making sure they’ve satisfied these guys enough to sign new contracts.
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