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Post by Dub H on Feb 20, 2019 17:57:37 GMT -5
Could we not try to shove gamer gate into every situation that it has nothing to do with?Also dont let the assholes distract you that game journalism IS a scummy industry,regardless of what movement does what.Also using the "anime avatar" strawman is annoying. That being, can anyone explain to me the evidence for/against hi,?I'm not that much into the loop.I know there are petty solid statements but nothing in detail.What are the defenders using as excuse?And why is the evidence so damning? It is the exact same people enacting this, though. A lot of the remnants of GG went and formed Comicsgate when they were starting to lose relevance and needed a new target, and now they're trying to make an Animegate too. As usual, they're just using it as an excuse to give bullshit to a woman. Former Channel Awesome contributor Marzgurl coined the #KickVic hashtag, so naturally it's entirely her fault he got fired. Not, y'know, several internal investigations and being a creepy jackass. Her current Twitter feed is basically just her KOing fools. Anime is just reaching to the bottom, Japan just makes American culture BTFO out of then.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Feb 20, 2019 22:31:57 GMT -5
I just discovered the current push on Twitter or wherever to defend this guy, and I think I ended up facepalming hard enough to knock my brain out the back of my skull. Boy(clap) howdy)clap) I got a taste of this the other night. I was watching Behind the Black Rims and I made the mistake of scrolling down to the comments. So many people writhing around like somebody scratched up their bodies and rolled them around in hair relaxer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 16:10:43 GMT -5
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Mar 24, 2019 16:21:53 GMT -5
Wow I hadn't heard what he actually did to Monica personally. All i knew was hed been grabby. That's disgusting and beyond twisted. And he did it to Jamie Marchi too? What a creepo.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Mar 24, 2019 18:47:31 GMT -5
I doubt Kamehamecon even cancelled him to begin with, basically anyone that wants nothing to do with him has to breach their contract because they backflipped on him literally weeks before the con.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Mar 24, 2019 20:10:48 GMT -5
I'm going to a con next week and he was going to be one of the guest that were announced but was later canned amid the controversy. Sounds like the con I'm going to did the right move telling Vic to piss off.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Mar 24, 2019 20:50:35 GMT -5
Nice job, Kameha Con. To quote Barrett from FFVII Machinabridged: "You done f***ed up."
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Post by Cyno on Mar 24, 2019 21:07:47 GMT -5
And they're not giving any artists who want to pull out of the con any refunds after this backtracking regarding Vic Mignogna.
Seems like Kamehacon and Mignogna deserve each other in all their scumminess.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Mar 24, 2019 22:21:49 GMT -5
I know Hawaii Con is another con that fully supports Vic and invited him as a guest. They seem to just block anyone who has anything negative to say about them inviting him.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 24, 2019 22:29:16 GMT -5
And they're not giving any artists who want to pull out of the con any refunds after this backtracking regarding Vic Mignogna.
Seems like Kamehacon and Mignogna deserve each other in all their scumminess.
I mean,I think that is just a legal thing,not that I approve him.But if the artist wants to pull out for personal reasons,I think its on the contract the Convention(of any kind) keeps the money
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Post by Cyno on Mar 25, 2019 13:06:51 GMT -5
The especially scummy thing was him being disinvited/him voluntarily pulling him self out of the con (not sure which it was, as I've seen sources say both things) only for him to be reinvited like 2 weeks before the con happened, hedging their bets that any of Mignogna's little cult of personality and the Redpill Brigade would offset the other guest cancellations. And doing so conveniently after any refund deadline had expired from artists who have to make a choice between losing the money they paid or attending the con feeling uncomfortable or outright unsafe with an accused serial sexual predator and his legion of minions.
At least with a few of the other scummy cons like Anime Matsuri, they never backed away from their support of Mignogna. So they were honest about their support versus Kamehacon's bait-and-switch.
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Post by Powerline on Mar 26, 2019 6:14:12 GMT -5
Wow I hadn't heard what he actually did to Monica personally. All i knew was hed been grabby. That's disgusting and beyond twisted. And he did it to Jamie Marchi too? What a creepo. We have a convention here in Kansas City this weekend that had all 3 of them appearing (the same convention Groose mentioned going to...in fact we're going together...cause, ya know, brothers and all that). They announced Vic a day or two after the controversy really picked up (it was how I first heard about it). He was pulled from it (the convention worded it as if he withdrew) around the time Monica and Jamie shared their stories, and a ton of people backing Vic blamed them specifically for him being dropped. It was awful. They'd harass them that it was "only fair" they drop out, they'd call them liars and stuff and when they responded they'd tag the convention in the replies and go "Look what they said! You gotta drop them now! You dropped Vic for the same thing!!!" as if a mean tweet and...the things Vic is accused of...are on even ground. Totally ridiculous.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 19, 2019 11:56:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 12:14:28 GMT -5
Yeah... They brought in the lawyers.
This gonna get ugly.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Apr 19, 2019 12:22:51 GMT -5
I don't really know what he hopes to achieve given the sheer mountain of stories about him.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 19, 2019 14:31:11 GMT -5
My guess is they hope that Sony/Funimation just doesn't want to deal with the nuisance and settle with him out of court for some money. If this actually goes to court, they're going to have a large uphill battle ahead of him as they'd have to prove that there was a coordinated effort among the defendants to knowingly lie about Mignogna's character in order to ruin him.
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Post by Glitch on Apr 19, 2019 15:01:32 GMT -5
I can see this completely blowing up in face. Info he would have wanted secret might come out. Possibly police investigations happening.
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Post by Rocky Raccoon on Apr 19, 2019 16:33:32 GMT -5
What a joke. No one is obligated to utilize him. We are independent contractors, not employees. If the guy really thinks he can prove the entire industry and a massive amount of folks outside of it are all in a conspiracy out to get him, he's going to have one heck of battle.
There is a reason why none of his peers are standing up for him. Everyone knew this was going to happen some day.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 16:34:40 GMT -5
I'm guessing this doesn't take long to get dropped, because Vic probably is going to get seriously bitten on the ass if this reaches discovery.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 19, 2019 17:13:36 GMT -5
I can see this completely blowing up in face. Info he would have wanted secret might come out. Possibly police investigations happening. He's probably safe from any outright criminal investigations, unless something really skeezy comes out. But the burden of proof is on him and, to put it lightly, it's a big undertaking. Mean tweets are not proof of defamation in a legal sense. Especially as this lawsuit was filed in Texas which is a "right to work" state, which gives the employer a ton of leeway to let go of employees for any reason.
Like I said earlier, his probable legal strategy is hoping that Sony just doesn't want to bother with a lengthy court battle and pays him off with a settlement to make him go away (as well as give him and his scumbag supporters some plausible deniability in the allegations). Because if this actually gets to court and unless he has the smoking gun to end all smoking guns, it's going to be a bad time for him.
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